Nationalism

>>2327230
Yes, but it was more about loyalty to the king

Tribalism has always existed, but autistically believing that everyone living inside the same borders should share language, culture and traditions was a phenomenom of the XIXth century.

>>2327268
Was it really though?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Scania

>>2327247
That's patriotism. "Civic nationalism" is an oxymoron.

Started with the french révolution forcing britons to integrate, then it was seen as successful because of how excellent the french Army was, and it spread.

>>2327230
Yeah in france and England

>>2328529
there was no english nationalism it was a different phenomenon based on uniting diverse cultures under a single ruler

>>2328540
No it stated with the hundred years war for both france and England. Notice i didn't say british but English

>>2328613
Nationalism as we know it (ie the people's right to rule their country, or to have ones country correspond to the cultural group) didn't start during the 100 years war
The 100 years war was basically fought between 2 groups of people who spoke similar languages

>>2327230
It started with protestant revolutions I think.

>>2328676
>the people's right to rule their country

This isn't what nationalism is.

And yes nationalism stated with france and England

>>2328613
100 Years war was two rivaling monarchs fighting for their "legitimate" claims

It's like the exact opposite of nationalism. They didn't care about the language or the culture of the people living in the areas they were fighting for, which there were more than just English and French people.

>>2330132
>nationalism stated with france and England
Utter nonsense.

Both France and England were ruled by French Kings.

Nationalism started in France but not during the 100 years war.

>>2330132
>This isn't what nationalism is
It's literally the original definition of the term retard

It started in France, where it's clearly present by the 13th century. Other countries also developed it before the French Revolution, namely Britain and the Netherlands.

What the French Revolution did was take French nationalism and turn it into a universally applicable and thus exportable idea, and then spread it across Europe through conquest and reform. That's why for most of Europe nationalism only dates back to Napoleon.

>>2330132
Nationalism is that every nation should have a state and that every state should correspond to a nation
There's literally no way around this

>>2327247
That isn't nationalism