What stopped Roman from expansion further into the Eastern Europe?

>>2320246

Full of useless open Steppe and slavic subhumans.

>>2320246
They already had plenty of clay. They only conquered Dacia because it had lots of gold

>>2320246
Logistics

>>2320246
IIRC
1. Not much to gain
2. Freezing and horribly cold winters
3. A few untimely deaths/rebellionsduring the 160-200 emperors.

>>2320266
He's back.

>>2320246
Just a reminder that the Romans were conceptually incapable of understanding European geography beyond the frontiers so there was no "why don't we logically take all of THIS part" going on. They did not draw maps.

What really stopped them was a perception by the emperor that they were over-extending themselves, the risk of legions being more likely to revolt against the emperor by being further away, a general lack of resources north of the frontier line and diplomatic considerations.

Dacia was only seized because it was incredibly mineral rich and because the Dacian kingdom was one of the only genuine near-states to form on the northern frontier and posed a legitimate threat to their interests as they saw it. It ended up being an incredibly irritating salient that had to be defended on three sides from dangerous Sarmatian and Asiatics on the plains to either side.

>>2320266
Your shitposting has gotten lame. It was memes at first now it's just sad to see you around.. Let go, everyone else has..

>>2320246
1. Nothing there worth capturing, no dangerous empires
2. No easy access since no waterways
3. Little information about it and too much of a gamble

>>2320266
Woaahhh, you are back bro!

Logistics
Unstable emperors

>>2320266
I always enjoy your turkposting, friend.

>>2321485
Don't listen to them. Keep up the roachposting, friend.

>>2320246
Crops and cattle used by Romans were not compatible with the weather.

This was solved on the Middle Ages, when monasteries developed breeding techinques that allowed them to expand European Civilization up to Scandinavia.

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at some point having too much territory becomes burdensome and hard to manage

>>2322731
This image is amazing...

>>2322731
>Rome was the size of America
>America is the 2nd Rome
really makes you think.......

>>2320293
Would the Roman empire have been more keen on conquering past the frontiers if there were more near-states in Germany and Eastern Europe?

>>2321504
>2. No easy access since no waterways
This is an important bit that's often overlooked.

North of Dacia you're always going upriver or across mountains until you're on the other side of the Carpathians. Which is a hell of a trip with not much to take or hold on to along the way and horrid weather throughout.

Also the Empire was stretched to the logistical limits as it was. There's a reason the Empire was around a central sea - maritime transport is FAR faster than land transport and it takes less in terms of logistics to make it go smoothly (no need to build roads).

Still it took weeks to travel across the empire. Getting from Alexandria to Rome alone was a two week or longer journey. Try responding to threats with that sort of a lag.

they did not have sufficient resources

the answer is that they did conquer beyond those borders but they always abandoned the area after realizing how hard it would be to manage. see:Trajan's conquests being abandoned by hadrian, dacia being abandoned after they bleed it dry of resources and didn't want to have to defend a strategically vulnerable position.

Honestly they could barely hold the borders they had, any time they pulled guys off the front to fight a civil war or whatever, the tribes on the borders took note and invaded. Imagine that problem but multiplied tenfold with even more territory to defend.

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what if they had extended only as far as the blue line? it would've been a shorter limes to defend in the future, no? and maybe with a Romanized Germania they'd have a better time with the steppe fags

It's a waste. Modern Ukraina is the breadbasket of Soviet Union.

Imagine if Roman take that land.

>>2323470
>it would've been a shorter limes to defend in the future, no?

No.

How are you going to march and supply several legions all the way in Poland? The reason the Rhine became the border was because Rome could communicate and transport men and supplies from the Mediterranean and up the many river systems of France quickly. That's why they could reach England as well.

>>2320246

It made no sense to go there, it would be expensive to do and there is little to gain from doing it. There were far better territories to worry about controlling.

>>2320246
Busy fighting all of the cunts around them.

>>2323163
You mean you haven't noticed them trying to force this since 1776?

>>2323470
Tell me something anon, how many straight lines do you see on Rome's border? The borders are where they are because of naturally defensible positions. In Augustus' last will and testament to the senate he begged them not to extend the empire beyond the rhine, danube, and tigris rivers. Trajan was the first one to ignore that advice and Hadrian immediately gave up his conquests in Iraq when he came in, although they did hold on to Dacia for a while it ultimately turned out to have been a white elephant.

>>2323189
Probably. It's a lot easier to subjugate a single kingdom than it is hundreds of tribes.

>>2320246
Traveling over land is hard.

That's pretty much the only reason, other reasons are just extensions of this root truth.

There was not threat anymore from the north, so they couldn't justify it to the masses with their typical jingoist "defensive" imperialism anymore.

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A question I like asking people is imagine how far technology, philosophy and society would be advanced at the present day if the Roman Empire didn't collapse, and the dark ages had never happened which stalled just about every facet of civilization from advancing for hundreds of years?

>>2324700
It's more effective bait when you just post the picture.