Which was better- Mali or Songhai?

>>2319834
800 years of history boiled into one chapter in every history text book

ghana

>>2319837
>We should be interested in thing because we just should.

>>2319869
No I am saying it is kind of stupid that every world history textbook (In America) has the exact same chapter on them. I find it funny that I have read the same thing about like 5 times in grade and high-school.

>>2319876
>tfw never learned about them until I was in highschool when playing a strategy game

>>2319886
Weird I thought American text books were relatively uniform.

>>2319892
I'm not American.

>>2319876
It's an unfortunate fact that periphery states that didn't really directly influence the West get ignored, but it's hardly a malicious thing. For most people, there's not enough time to learn all of world history, so you have to save time on the points that matter - namely, the events that are closest to them.

>>2319848
The Almoravids say hi.

>>2319899
I'm not refuting any of that honestly I am just saying I didn't need to see five times. I understand that countries focus on their own history more than other so the other parts of the world become concise summaries. I just think it is funny I read this same and I mean exactly the same chapter in 5, 7,8, 10 and 12 grade.
>>2319893
Ahhh sorry

>>2319899
Completely understandable. My current interest in Africa lies primarily in West Africa. I may delve into Southern Africa on the future. Like a lot if things, you pick and choose.

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>>2319834
Europe.

>>2319837
calling it an empire without even inventing the wheel and still living in mudhuts

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/1500px-Flag_of_France.svg.png

>>2320569
Nobody apart from the Mayans and random Central Eurasian steppeniggers "invented" the wheel.

Songhai is pretty annoying. They always resist my attempt at conversion.

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>>2319837
>>2319876
I hate that Mali and Songhai are treated like the height of West African civilization. Their whole claim to fame is having lots of gold and having one city with a famous name.

Benin, Ashanti, the Yoruba and the Hausa are way more interesting.

>>2320569
>muh wheels
do you guys ever get tired of this shit? No great empire ever invented the wheel, because it was invented a handful of times.

>>2321481
that's supposed to be impressive? it looks like rank of squalor. The height of Negro "civilization."

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>>2319834
Mali because it survives to this day

Ghana because literally none of it is included in modern day Ghana
Just like Benin
What were they thinking?

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>>2322762
I was posting a picture of a Hausa city because it seemed relevant to the thread, not trying to impress some obtuse manchild. And how exactly does it look like 'squalor'? It's a wide, straight street filled with people and lined with fairly nice buildings. Maybe you consider puddles on the side of a road to be 'squalor'? I know you subhuman /pol/lacks just see what you want to see, but at least try to be coherent.

>>2320569
Do you know whats an empire at least?

>>2320569
AFAIK they definitely had wheels, as well as horses and metal working, checkmate.

>>2322892
Modern day Ghana is named such for political and nationalistic reasons. Last I checked, it's yet to be proved that the population of modern day Ghana are the descendants of the ancient Ghanese people.

>>2319834
Semi-related question for you anons: anyone know of a good book or two on West African history? I never got a chance to study it in uni, and this thread has sparked my curiosity.

>>2323960
It's a bit old so it misses a lot of recent archaeological evidence (which is very important considering West African archaeology is relatively new), but the UNESCO history of Africa is available online.