Der Ring des Nibelungen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HujjNQPv2U

It's ridiculous that many on the left slander his name because of the supposed fact that Nazis would play his music at concentration camps right before prisoners were killed

Yes, Wagner was anti-semetic, but he was anti-semetic in the European 19th century sense which was pretty much common

It does not equate to Nazi Eliminationist anti-semitism....

>>2313802
Yes.

was this Tolkien's main inspiration for Lord of the Rings?

>>2313802
HEDA HEDA HEDO
ZU MIR DU GEDUNFT
IHR DUNSTER ZU MIR
DONNER DER HERR
RUFT EUCH ZU HEER

>>2313802
And OP was not a faggot today.

>>2313802
I have the 20 disc special edition.

I also have some good Furtwangler recordings.

Tannhauser is my fav though.

>>2313812

Thanks OP. Here's part 2.

It was the Flying Dutchman that really made me want to hear (and read) his operas. Knowing German might enrich the experience, instead of having to read the lyrics.

I don't think Wagner was trying to engender nationalism with his work, but this was the function of it. The man himself was probably trying to make rent and possibly convey a moral tale. The attitudes of the era certainly show, but as the other anon said these were commonplace.

It's likely his works will forever be stigmatized as an Nazi propaganda, it certainly worked to that effect. Hitler idealized these operas and all things classical antiquity.

>>2314312
Tolkien got pretty butthurt when people accused him of that

>>2315557
Shit! Forgot the video. Also, pardon the typos. They're why I dislike typing on a tablet.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=05eVjgMEuWs

Wagner's ring cycle will be remembered as the Northern European Homeric work of its time milennia from now.

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I really believe that Wagner was the first serious story teller and cult-following musician to look past the classical canon that European art even today seems unable to divorce itself from.

>>2315581
It seems like he's been completely overshadowed by Tolkien, at least in the Anglophone world.

What did Nietzsche have against Wagner?

>>2315588

Nietzsche didn't like his antisemitism. He thought his music was too Romantic and made men forget about the struggles in life. He also didn't like his strong Christian beliefs which is at odds with Nietzsche's views.

>>2315581

Perhaps not Homeric but it certainly aspired to that scale. One must definitely acknowledge the Cycle as being 'epic' in the literary sense. How exactly do you think he deviates from Classical forms? Modern art doesn't incorporate it enough, in my opinion. But then 'modern art' can mean all manner of modern shite.

Part 3. Sigfried is my favorite and possibly the most complete of the four. A coming-of-age that feels more like a fable.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xbhQcVTp8U

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_xbhQcVTp8U

>>2315636
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ufTndujS5Bs

>>2315588
Nietzsche was literally the Roosh or Aurini of his era, goofy beta writing guides on how to be alpha. Also couldn't create such magnificent art as Wagner if his life depended on him, so basically resentment combined with his butt devastation over Christianity.