hmmmm

I never understood arguing about the numbers of the Holocaust. If the nazis killed 6 million or 500k, it would morally be the same thing, right? It still stands that their ultimate goal was to annihilate the jews, and they were stopped short either way.

I'm inclined to believe the 6 million number, but if it was proven false, it wouldn't really change anything.

>>2307727
Their goal was to annhilate or subdue anything they considered degenerate.

My biggest problem with the 6 gorrillion is some idiots think the number only refers to the Jewish deaths, and not the other groups that the Nazis went after.

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>>2307751
umm you might want to reconsider that

>>2306917
>single

>>2307727
Because /pol/ logic

>>2307751
The 6 million does refer to Jews, just not all of them were gassed in camps. When you include non-Jews the number is ~11 million.

>>2306917
>citation needed

ok then..


Ancel, Jean, editor. Documents Concerning the Fate of Romanian Jewry during the Holocaust. New York: Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, 1986.

Arad, Yitzhak, Israel Gutman, and Abraham Margaloit, editors. Documents on the Holocaust: Selected Sources on the Destruction of the Jews of Germany and Austria, Poland, and the Soviet Union. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1999.

Arad, Yitzhak, Shmuel Krakowski, and Shmuel Spector, editors. The Einsatzgruppen Reports: Selections from the Dispatches of the Nazi Death Squads’ Campaign against the Jews July 1941-January 1943. New York, NY: Holocaust Library, 1989.

Braham, Randolph L., editor. The Destruction of Hungarian Jewry: A Documentary Account. New York: Pro Arte for the World Federation of Hungarian Jews, 1963.

Friedlander, Henry, and Sybil Milton, editors. Berlin Document Center. New York: Garland, 1992.

Friedlander, Henry, and Sybil Milton, editors. Bundesarchiv of the Federal Republic of Germany, Koblenz and Freiburg. New York: Garland, 1993.

Friedlander, Henry, and Sybil Milton, editors. Zentrale Stelle der Landesjustizverwaltungen, Ludwigsburg. New York: Garland, 1993

Hochstadt, Steve. Sources of the Holocaust. New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2004. (

Joods Historisch Museum. Documents of the Persecution of the Dutch Jewry 1940-1945. Amsterdam: Athenaeum-Polak & Van Gennep, 1979

Klamper, Elisabeth, editor. Dokumentationsarchiv des Österreichischen Widerstandes, Vienna. New York: Garland, 1991. (Reference D 810 .J4 A735 1989 v.19)

Klarsfeld, Serge, editor. Documents Concerning the Destruction of the Jews of Grodno 1941-1944. New York: Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, 1985.

>>2307781
oh and here's an 18 volume one if you go through the ones above too quickly...
Mendelsohn, John, editor. The Holocaust: Selected Documents in Eighteen Volumes. New York: Garland, 1982.

>>2307781
>all written by jews after 1945

really made me think

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>>2307727
can you really blame them?

>>2307820
>Holocaust books all written after the Holocaust happened
w0w rlly makes u think

>>2307727
Because you wouldn't give green people their own country if they claim a psychopath killed 96% of all green people and you find out its really .1%

>>2307862
But you hate Palestinians /pol/

>>2307727
The Neo Nazi MO is using a fine-toothed comb to find ant apparent inconsistency between Holocaust sources, and then using this as proof that the entire event was somehow faked.

>>2307828
Yeah, fuck those Jews for trying to make Germany a more just and democratic society

Klara Zetkin was also not Jewish in the slightest, and this leaves out that the leader of the revolt -- Karl Liebknecht -- was from a Christian background

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>>2307891
>trying to make Germany a more just and democratic society

we know what their plan was

>>2307879
i dont like either, but isreal has fought and defend itself countless times so it can stay, i just wish they would stop dragging us into their wars.

>>2307892
Soviets refer to workers' councils where democratically-elected representatives managed local affairs. Lenin's great failure was limiting the power of the soviets in favor of a strong central government. While he intended this to be a temporary measure, Lenin died before the power of these democratic bodies could be restored. This set the stage for later tyranny and allowed Stalin to abolish almost all democracy within the government. Ironically, the Soviet Union by the end of the Russian Civil War did not have much to do with soviets at all.

In Bavaria, these democratic workers' soviets were established as the foundation of government the short-lived socialist republic. You shouldn't be so quick to condemn soviets. Your boy Adolf was elected to a Munich soviet in 1919.

>>2307727
No. That would be wrong. Especially given that they kicked them out of a load of places as well instead of killing them. Then again, people who don't care about semantics don't care about reason either so you're already a bad horse to bet on.

>>2307885

It's almost like they're not actually historians and this is the first time they've encountered an unfiltered primary source.

Using stormniggers logic, the vikings never raided Lindisfarne because the one source that describes it also mention that dragons were seen flying around.

>>2307891
AHAHAHAHAHA

The sad state of his gommies