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I once heard a quote by Mussolini in a documentary, something along the lines of "In order to stay healthy, a nation must go to war every 20(?) years".
How true do you think the notion of "healthy wars" are?
In an increasingly pacifistic and liberal society (at least in first world countries), nations as a whole have come to discard all notions of aggression or hostility towards other nations or peoples, both in theory and practice, despite this being an inherent part of human nature and society. If theres one thing we know, nothing good comes from suppressing human nature.
It's as if wars and militarism in general, an accepted, and sometimes highly regarded source of national pride and glory throughout history, all of a sudden turned into something taboo and dark in recent years.
I feel as if practicing "healthy wars" in controlled scenarios, like jousting tournaments, along with slight rivalries between countries would hone a more unified, stable, and productive society for any nation involved.
Let me know what you guys think and how a 21st century scenario like this would differ from the skirmishes and rivalries seen throughout history.
>inb4 he quoted mussolini so he's a /pol/tard
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I don't buy it. Aside from the cucked French speaking part Switzerland is still fairly healthy as a society and hasn't had a war in quite a while. Or contrast Denmark and Sweden. Both have not waged a real war in more than a century yet one is fairly healthy and the other a rotting corpse with a freefalling HDI.
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>>2303377
AESTHETIC
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>>2303377
I think it's a meme. What I think is not a meme is the hypothesis that any kind of international system restructuring cannot be done without a large-scale war. Hence why I think a war like that is going to happen soon.
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I don't think that Mussolini quote is applicable any more, nukes and mass industrialization and borders that are totally disregarded changed the whole dynamic, in the 1920s WWI was still considered a "romantic" war by many.
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>>2303427
>Sweden is a healthy society
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Wars are healthy only when you can WIN them or at least not come out too badly.
Whats more important is that a society has a unifying goal or message to strive towards. whether that society is gearing themselves for revenge or universal health coverage, if there a clear goal to attain, people are happier and willing to be challenged.
The problem nowadays is that the great battles of labour and capital are over. Most countries have social welfare systems a socialist from the 19th century could only dream of and the liquid nature of globalization means that capital forces have destroyed labour movements world wide.
Most countries in the west are basically just treading water. Which is fine and dandy if you could afford it but nothing lasts forever.
Look at places like Russia which is striving towards a traditional orthodox slavic revival or China striving towards master of East Asia. People will endure all sorts of hardship for the collective good. Theres no such end goal in the western countries for a while now.
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>war every 20 years
Mussolini couldn't even handle one.
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>>2303377
go die for Israel then, cuck
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>>2303985
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Why are you taking Mussolini seriously
When he finally got involved in a serious war it destroyed his Empire
Please stop
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>>2303377
Read the futurist manifesto
"Guerra, sola igiene del mondo"
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>>2303937
>reading comprehension.
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>>2303975
Ethiopia and Italy's participation in the Spanish civil war were his definition of "healthy wars"
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>>2303985
What the fuck does that have to do with anything, cuck.
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>>2303427
To be fair that's because Denmark sent all its Jews to Sweden in the second war.
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>>2303377
Fuck no.
Modern day weapons are much deadlier, and resulting wars would be much more messy and destructive, due to urban warfare and shit.
Besides the possibility of shit spiraling out of control and making WW2 seem like a cakewalk.
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>>2303377
Judgeing by the sorry state of the modern world it seems to have some truth to it. On the other hand, it's certainly not true that "war is the world's only hygiene", or that we should go out looking for wars to "keep on schedule" or anything like that. There's an old adage, "hard times breed strong men, strong men make good times, good times breed weak men, weak men make hard times". Whether or not there is a war to "harden up" the weak men might make a big difference. Arguably it's why the decadent societies of WW1 toughened up enough to limp on until the 30's and 40's, but then again maybe it would have been better for those societies to have collapsed "naturally" in the 20's and so avoid that whole cycle of ruinous wars, without a time machine we can't know.
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