Has this happened anywhere else?

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>>2283476
Republicans and Russia. Democrats and Venus.

Lot of loyalty for an Irish gun

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Mayotte and France
In the 2000s they had a referendum about independence and voted to remain French as masse

>>2283476
>Only classed as Irish as they live on the island of Ireland
>I have seem more "Irish" Nigerians in Dublin

They are Ulster Scots

>>2283543

The dark eleventh hour
Draws on and sees us sold
To every evil power
We fought against of old.
Rebellion, rapine hate
Oppression, wrong and greed
Are loosed to rule our fate,
By England's act and deed.

The Faith in which we stand,
The laws we made and guard,
Our honour, lives, and land
Are given for reward
To Murder done by night,
To Treason taught by day,
To folly, sloth, and spite,
And we are thrust away.

The blood our fathers spilt,
Our love, our toils, our pains,
Are counted us for guilt,
And only bind our chains.
Before an Empire's eyes
The traitor claims his price.
What need of further lies?
We are the sacrifice.

>>2283547
We asked no more than leave
To reap where we had sown,
Through good and ill to cleave
To our own flag and throne.
Now England's shot and steel
Beneath that flag must show
How loyal hearts should kneel
To England's oldest foe.

We know the war prepared
On every peaceful home,
We know the hells declared
For such as serve not Rome --
The terror, threats, and dread
In market, hearth, and field --
We know, when all is said,
We perish if we yield.

Believe, we dare not boast,
Believe, we do not fear --
We stand to pay the cost
In all that men hold dear.
What answer from the North?
One Law, one Land, one Throne.
If England drive us forth
We shall not fall alone!

>see themselves as British
They ARE British. They're descended from a group of 200,000 Anglo-Scottish planters who were settled in Ireland in an attempt to breed out and anglicise the Irish. Or, at least half of them are.

Calling the British-identifying population of Northern Ireland "Irish" is like calling Russo-Estonians "Estonian".

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>>2283476
Literally any frontier society, Texas, the entirity of the Balkans, the Afrikaners in particular are extremely nationalistic.

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>>2283553
Good post.

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>>2283553
This tbqh

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>>2283569
delet

>>2283476

>they're Irish

After several hundred years of fucking Irish people I'm sure their genetic British-Scots DNA is super pure.

Not.

Much like every other foreigner they got bred the fuck out of existence.

Only their shitty leftover 30 Years War bullshit remains.

>>2283476

They're as much Irish as the Lowlands Scots are Scots

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>>2283573

>>2283476
By that standards, the Pied Noirs, I suppose.

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>>2283596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/36th_(Ulster)_Division#The_Somme.2C_1916

>>2283476
Instead of hunting negroes Britain now has its Colonial Adventure Park in Ulster. Since only Catholics may be gunned down there's naturally a group of fans. Who gives a shit if negroes or catholics die.

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>>2283608
Y-y-you gunned down Brits you know!

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>>2283605

>>2283543

They're plastic Brits. If you have lived in Ulster for 400 years you're Irish. They know fuck all about Britain except the free gibs they get.

>t. actual Brit

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>>2283623

>>2283553

Then all the Irish diaspora around the world are still Irish despite not living in Ireland for 100s of years.

>>2283633
I have been to Boston and they would agree with you.

>>2283635

And yet you'd still call them plastic paddys whilst claiming to be British and you've never stepped foot in Britain top kek

>>2283638
You don't know me or what I might do.

>>2283587
>After several hundred years of fucking Irish people
Yes, because in an extremely religious society where marriage between Protestants and Catholics was banned interbreeding must have been extremely common.

>>2283641

Butthurt plastic Nigel detected

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>>2283627
nah lad they are Brits, you can have them

t. true Irish republican

>>2283630

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>>2283644
checked

>>2283554
He's talking about people who turned loyal to external 'invaders'. Not nationalism dumbass

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>>2283646

>>2283633
>>2283638
There is no country called 'Britain'.

The name of the country is 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireand'.

It is one single nation, and the demonym for this nation/nationality is 'British'.

British territory is not restricted to the island of Great Britain. That's where you seem to be confused.

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>>2283694

>>2283668
Yes, I fucking know that, the Afrikaners are an example of such a people, who developed an extreme national identity as a result of British and native attacks on them, in the same way the Northern Irish turned extremely British as a result of being in a hostile environment.

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>>2283700

Southern China was traditionally viewed as barbaric by the Chinese, but now they're pretty outright Chinese in character.

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>>2283727

>>2283689

Nah Britain is an island consisting of England, Scotland and Wales. If you're not born in it you're not British. Pajeet who grew up in Birmingham is more British than the embarrassing Ulster LARPers.

>>2283744
>Pajeet who grew up in Birmingham is more British than the embarrassing Ulster LARPers.
Just like n'Dongo who grew up in Dublin is more Irish than the lads in Londonderry?

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>>2283740

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>>2283727
>>2283740
>>2283748
Sassenach lies.

>>2283476
Almoust all smallscaled french colonies were basically granted independence against their wishes (ex. Commoros)

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>>2283744
>Nah

Oh right. Everything that I just said (which is 100% factually correct) is all of a sudden irrelevant because you wrote 'Nah'.

Idiot.

>Britain is an island consisting of England, Scotland and Wales.

I just said that.

>If you're not born in it you're not British

Except that's not correct.

People who are born in the Shetland Islands are British.

People who are born in the Falkland Islands are British (not even part of the UK).

People who are born in Northern Ireland are British.

etc etc.

'British' is not synonymous with the island of Great Britain. It's the demonym term for the UNITED KINGDOM.

>>2283782
Are non whites British?

>>2283811
legally

>>2283811
Yes, if they are British citizens, why wouldn't they be?

>>2283747

n'Dongo's family haven't lived in Ireland for 400 years

>>2283831
So n'Dongo is Igbo/Nigerian, whatever, but Pajeet is British and Ulsterman is Irish, despite the fact both Pajeet and Ulsterman don't identify with the geographic region they're in?

>>2283844
Ulsterman LITERALLY lives in the UNITED KINGDOM lol.

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>>2283844
>Ulsterman doesn't identify with Ulster

What am I reading?

>>2283848
Ulsterman doesn't identify with the Republic of Ireland or the island of Ireland.

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>>2283853
But the six counties are part of the UK.

>>2283853

>Ulsterman doesn't identify with the island of Ireland

Ulster is an Irish province so that's impossible by definition

>>2283864
>>2283865
Yes, but according to >>2283744 anyone born outside of the geographical island of Britain isn't British and anyone born inside the geographical island of Britain is British, I presume under his philosophy the same applies to the island of Ireland.

>>2283865
It is located in Ireland but most of it is British.

>>2283870
And that poster is clearly a minger.

>>2283870
Your obviously an american with no grasp of geographic terms, they are called the British isles and are inhabited by the British

>>2283902
Not all British people live in Britain.

>>2283766
They want to stay so they can leech off France literally since most places have complete shit locations and very big limitations in how they can expand their economy.

>>2283547
>>2283552
Which Sabaton song is this?

>>2284057

Ulster by Rudyard Kipling

>>2283552
>>2283547

Kek this poem is utter bollocks pretending it was unionists who were oppressed when they were the oppressors of the native Irish.

>>2283873

All of it is Irish, it's just part of it is in the UK.

>>2283528
You're a big potato.

>>2283668
They are the descendants of those invaders dumbass.

>>2284099
Though it's nice to know the source, cmon man lighten up

>>2284514
Afrikaners didn't "invade" africa, they colonised it.

>>2284457
No most of it is British, it's just located in Ireland.

>>2283689
>'Britain'.
>The name of the country is 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireand'.

>Be ultra fucking pedantic despite the fact any reasonable person knows what they mean
>Can't spell Ireland yourself