Is there a heaven and hell?

Probably. The immortal soul has to go somewhere after you die right?

>>2282179
But is the soul real in the first place?

>>2282184
Of course it is. You don't think a bag of meat can become sapient right?

so if you think humans go to heaven, do apes? do dogs?

of course theres no heaven/hell. its a human made concept

>>2282269
>do apes? do dogs?
No, why would they? What kind of argument is that?

You do realise we descended from apes right? we descended from small mammals. why is heaven purely for human beings?

>>2282179
The soul doesn't exist

>>2282292
Because Humans are the only sapient species, since we were created in Gods image. All other creatures were created to serve humans

>>2282174
No, there is no reason to think so either other then blatant wishful thinking.

We were created in 'gods' image were we? are you sure?

got proof of that have you?

>>2282312
>>since we were created in Gods image. All other creatures were created to serve humans
Unverifiable claims that cannot be proven.

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childhood is seeing heaven as the teleological goal for all humanity, adulthood is realizing hell made a lot more sense

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>>2282319
>Unverifiable claims
?

kek @ bible

>>2282179
What is eternal about us?

Our memory can be lost.

Our personality can be changed, it's influenced by our ideas (which can change) and by chemical in our bodies (which can be altered)

Our bodies,needlessto say, can change

So what exactly makes our dentity immortal?

>>2282326
I guess I should have been a bit more clear and used the term independently verifiable. Nobody outside of your religion has any reason to take your religious text seriously.

Heaven and hell are just damage control. Originally Christians believed they would literally be resurrected and everyone else would just stay dead.

>>2282174
There's only hell.

>>2282174
kys and tell us