France=Hero, Germany=Villain

Good thread

Just when I thought this board couldn't get more pseud.

>>2274000
It's 100% true, otherwise i want arguments why I'm wrong

>>2274006
It's a baseless argument get over the good guy bad guy meme then maybe you can celebrate your 14th birthday with some reflection

>>2274018
Not OP but the good guy / bad guy is a common theme among plebs so it's fair to address it.

>>2274018
Germany=The country of genocides war and oppression
France=The country of Liberté, égalité and fraternité
You can't disprove this fact

>>2274018
>>2274023
No but seriously, Care to elaborate?

>>2274023
If you think France committed no atrocities you have a finite illness that needs treating plus those little transparent ideologies don't make up for the evil they've done

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>>2274023
Let me guess you're French

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>>2274032
All atrocities committed by the French have been justified

>>2274032
Germany: Warmonger, started many wars, Rape of Belgium, first to bomb civillians, use gas and use flamethrowers in ww1 and the Holocaust

What atrocities has France comitted that are even remotely comparable?

>>2274038
The same can be said for the krauts too if you're willing to act like a child in a banal thread that is more appropriate on /pol/ where they self-congratulate themselves in something they had no partake.

>>2274041
Promoting homosexuality

>>2274042
Murdering and raping millions of civilians because of racial reasons is different than shooting a few Spaniards in revenge

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>>2274046
>they don't know about the atrocities in Haiti

>>2274045
Kek, that's not even close to comparable

>>2274021
It's dumb, as an academic, you should just focus on facts. Who cares if people are gonna blame Germany for ww1, you can at least see it in a perspective.

>>2274050
Completely lawful, the only truly bad things the French did was the slavery - but as did every other country.
Also, few, if any of the men were actually French, they were mainly Poles. The atrocities were widespread across both sides, the Haitians massacred thousands of women and children during their rebellion, they were also well known for gouging out eyes of prisoners with corkscrews, so nothing the "French" did was any worse.
Things like the supposed gas chambers are very disputed and terribly documented.

>>2274055
Novody here is an academic, stop LARPing as one.

>>2274064
Small percentage of people here should be, although you are probably right, hence the shittiness of this board.

>>2274063
>systematic oppression of a surprisingly self sufficient people is good only when the French do it because they are gud guise no matter what
Sure son do you now see that your argument consists of Disney channel logic

>>2274082
>v-violence is only bad if the french do it!
Fuck off, Socialist.

>>2274085
Wow your a retard did you learn to read and write yesterday and I despise socialism unlike you frogmen

>what is franco-prussian war

>>2274089
You didn't dispute any of my points, the only bad thing the French did in Haiti was slavery and literally everyone else did the same

>>2274091
>Spam artillery

>>2274094
So you think that Germans are your evil twin just with more evil blood or are you even more retarted then I think

>>2274082
>self sustaining Haitians
>>>/x/

Liberté, égalité and fraternité ??You muppet, France undertook nuclear weapon tests between 1966 and 1996 at Moruroa and Fangataufa, causing international protests, for a long time the plutonium fall-out from South Pacific tests of 60s and 70s was kept hidden,
Also on 10 July 1985 two operatives from the French foreign intelligence services, the Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (DGSE), sank the flagship of the Greenpeace fleet, the Rainbow Warrior in the port of Auckland, New Zealand on its way to a protest against a planned French nuclear test in Moruroa. Fernando Pereira, a photographer, drowned on the sinking ship.
In terms of their international reputation, Operation Satanique was a public relations disaster. France, an ally of New Zealand, initially denied involvement and even joined in condemning what THEY even described as a terrorist act.

>>2274104
Better get that burn checked OP

>>2274104
>blowing up hippie's ships
>bad

>>2274101
Firstly i'm not French. Secondly, the point was that France hasn't done any outstanding atrocities, especially compared to the Germans

also
>retarted
lol

>>2274102
Lmao

>>2274104
>Rainbow Warrior
Nobody here cares about that, all that happened was some hippy Portuguese died after he went back into a sinking ship

>>2274110
>he doesn't know who Napoleon is
>he doesn't know the French Revolution
>He pretends that Belgium didn't have it coming
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>>2274119
Not him but
>Napoleon
>Bad

France is history's Mary Sue protagonist.

Germany is the comic book tier villain constantly trying to destroy the world.

Britain is the initial villain who sometimes turns into a friend when the world is threatened by Germany, but then goes back to being a medium villain.

>>2273990
>French
>white

>>2274104
lmao cry more hippy

>>2273990
Because history is written by...

>>2274155
Explain vikings then, checkm8

>>2274145
Why do the French literally show that they hate you they hate everyone they hate themselves

>>2274169
They must be the anti-heroes

>>2273990
>masonic libertine satanism
>good

kek

>>2273990
Anglos needed to get the french off their back so they told them that germany is now their rival

>>2274189
This Germany and England are true powers while France is still trying to figure out their transendentilism complex

>>2274169
French people like everyone, look at the BBC polls. They even like countries that hate them.

>>2274053
Yeah, it's worse.

>>2274180
>practically the inventors of feminism
>good
How is it allowed to not nuke France already?

>>2274142
He was the Hitler of his age.

You can do a nosedive on your woodfloor now op

>>2274227
France is the only country where people actually resisted gay marriage.

>>2274230
As with everything, French create something good, then Anglos ruin it.

>>2274104
>and the American, Russian and British nuclear tests were totally fine

>>2274238
Now you're baiting but then again this is aspergers bait thread incarnate

>>2274246
Those protests were all over the news you baiting retard.

>>2274238
Feminism was never good,Are you really this daftly dense?

>>2274251
Doesn't matter you fags were the first to promote it you shit eating queerbait

>>2274255
>women having equal rights is bad
Asshurt incels back to /r9k/.

>>2274258
lmao what, homosexual culture is a 100% American thing. And before that it was mostly associated with England.

>>2274262
t.whiteflagger

>>2274262
Nigga do you even history?

>French Revolution
>shining beacon of good
Lmfaooooooooo

>>2273990
> arch nemesis Germany

Nice try, Hans. You're still irrelevant to us though.

>>2274277
I'm not german, but for a long time germsny clearly acted as the arch-nemesis of france

>>2274266
Lol

>>2274290
You're a spic huh

>>2274266
>>2274268
>angloposting

Don't you have a black bull to prep for your fat-positive intersex gf before going to your African-American gender studies class?

>>2274299
No

>>2274301
Touched a nerve didn't I Tyrone I'm Americana btw enjoy pretending to be French niglet.

>>2274290
Yeah they think they are. They wish they were. But here neither, could they beat the eternal anglo.

>>2274302
Then you're a kikey negro with Arab parents who have 1/4 Asian background who wishes he was French because he lives there

>>2274324
>Anglo
>eternal

>>2274325
Man do I love these edgy 12 year olds.

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>>2273990
Nice divide and conquer Moshe

But as a French i stand with my European brothers(Germans included) and hope that we can get our shit together and exterminate the shitskin invaders before being exterminated by them ourselves.

>>2274383
t.underage Frenchman
Keep larping as someone else but you're are the one with the sad reminder that you're French

>>2274332
>Anglo
>not eternal

desu

>>2274432
>Anglo
>eternal past 2027

>>2274439
>2027
>world still exists
>anglos didn't left their eternal mark of eternality

>>2274486
>believing this unironically

>>2273990
What is great with the Franco-German enmity is that the good guy always won the confrontation (between French and Germans I mean, not the entire war)

>Wars of Second, Third and Fourth Coalition
>France is the good guy
>France wins

>Franco-Prussian War
>Prussia is the good guy
>Prussia wins

>WW1
>France is the good guy
>France wins

>1940
>Germany is the good guy
>Germany wins

France was always one step away from being the bad guy

>>2274544

>Franco-Prussian War
>Prussia is the good guy
>Prussia wins


Plebs should really open a book ...

>>2274978
Or, as we commonly measure in Western Europe, one Belgium away.

>>2273990

France: Who are you?

Germany: It doesn't matter who we are. What matters is our plan. No one cared who I was until I annexed Alsace-Lorraine.

France (talking about Poznan): If I pull this off, will you die?

Germany: It would be extremely painful...

France: You're a big Reich.

Germany: For you.

France: Was losing the Second Battle of the Marne part of your plan?

Germany: Of course. Italy refused our offer in favor of yours. We had to know what he told you about us.

France: Well, congratulations, you lost the war. What's the next step of your master plan?

Germany: Crashing this continent... with no survivors!

>>2274041
>Syria
>Vietnam
>A large part of Africa
>Haiti
>Wars of Louis XIV
>Betrayed Catholic allies in 30 Years War
>Napoleon

They also committed all sorts of atrocities in WWI and WW2, and participated in the Holocaust. In fact, France has a longer history of antisemitism than Germany.

>>2277413
Forgot
>Italian Wars

>>2273990
>first to promote satanism
>good
10/10
My sides have failed me

>>2277552
>promote satanism
Go on...

>>2277413
None of these are atrocities, get the fuck out Merkel

>>2275411
k e k

>>2275331
Man I was fishing for at least one kek :'(

>>2277413
You've got a serious denying problem Hans. Atrocities such as German war time actions were never found, even in English started wars. And to recall, for the times, French colonialists were pretty chill compared to others. (See NA for instance)

>>2277413
>They also committed all sorts of atrocities in WWI and WW2
>WWI

Nope
Germany and the Ottomans were literally the only two nations to massacre civilians en mass during that war

>>2278212
Germans even managed to commit a genocide in the only African colony they had

>>2274041
The Thirty Years War.
Like. All of it.

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>>2278257
>killing Germans
>atrociy

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>>2273990
Nice Try Frenchie.

>>2278331
>its another slide picture to "parody" the "jews were behind it" pictures
1 shekel has been deposited into your moms bank account

>>2278363
>denying reality

>>2278242
Sure, Francois, your Commie friends did nothing wrong

>>2278597
>Russia kills people
>This qualifies as french atrocities
HIGH LEVEL OF DISCOURSE

is this board moderated at all? Why don't you cumstains hurl your buttocks back to /pol/?

>>2278626
>French Revolution
>not being the worst thing that's happend ever
Lmao

>>2278883
There are literally hundreds of worse events in history.
Second and third reichs, for example.

>>2278922
>actually thinking this

>>2279042
Holy shit man, you're sad to see and I see myself everyday.

>>2274544
Germany was the good guy in WW1
France was the good guy in WW2

>>2279042
>fifty million deaths is not as bad as the french revolution because of my gold metal mental gymnastics

>>2279097
>good guy
It wasn't as much their fault as WW2 but they're not "good guys" by any means

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>>2273990

Je suis français et ça me fait bien rire votre thread, vous les américains qui pensent être les meilleurs et les plus forts nous on a une vraie histoire contrairement à vous "Révolution française" ainsi que la libérations des pays voisins (Espagne par exemple). Vous possédez un gouvernement qui colonise les peuples d'Afrique et par le traité de l'OTAN nous vous suivons comme des chiens pour faire votre guerre de "profit", puis on récolte la masse d'immigré chez nous et on les logent et on les aident à cause de vous égoïste américain ! Et cette pensée maçonnique vient bel et bien de chez vous sachant que la plus grosse parti se trouve à Washington ! En plus vous avez élu un cingler qui n'a aucune carrure de président qui va se gaver sur vous, vous êtes des moutons qui se racontent des histoire drôles alors que vous êtes un sketch à vous seul.

>>2279064
t.unironic loser
kys slowly

>>2279118
>Attributing all of these deaths to Germans because clinically retarted

>>2279543
1. you were talking about the worst event in history
2. Yes, they are.

>>2279550
Almost an argument

>>2279550
t.mehmet

>>2279556
>>2279557
germans dindu nuffin we wuz gud bois

>>2279584
That's literally your argument for the French lol

>>2279610
Except I'm backed up by historical facts instead of random naziboos.

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>>2279629
You literally provided none but ok whiteflagging satan lover

As a french I think we're certainly not the good guys, but we're surely better than these filthy rosbifs

>>2279643
>beacon of light

>>2279658
The good guys would be America

>>2279667
lol

>>2274142
>>2274232
There is some thruth to this. During the battle of Borodino over 80.000 people died in a matter of days. Although more than half of them Russian Napoleon couldn't care less about the men he send to their graves.

>>2278212
>French colonialists were pretty chill compared to others

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9tif_and_Guelma_massacre

>>2278922
>2nd reich was bad
How?

>>2280395
And? Did you not read the post you were answering?

>>2280259
>attack Napoléon
>call him Hitler because he kills your soldiers efficiently
Top kek my friend

>>2280259
Because other monarchs did?
At least Napoleon was on the field with his men, while British, Austrian, Russian and Prussian monarchs just started wars and then kept their fat arses seated in their palaces while their men were dying

What faggots who like to judge Napoleon by modern standards should remember is that they must judge him in comparison to other monarchs of his era
And when you do so, he always end up looking like the best guy in the room

>>2280972
Yeah, the anon claimed that
>French colonialists were pretty chill compared to others
and then referenced North Africa.

So I called bullshit.

>>2273990
God, you people are pathetic.

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>>2273990
hon hon hon
bien joué mon ami

>>2281800
Obviously an Arab made this thread no frenchie thinks highly of themselves son

>>2281800
/his/ is shit.

The only true good guy in history is the US

>>2281891
Obviously

>>2273990
What did the french ever achieve vs germany?
Like, for real. tell me.

>>2281662
>NA
>and then referenced North Africa.

>NA
>and then referenced North Africa.
Holy fuckballs, how did a mongoloid like you escaped from /b???

>>2281662
Also like North Africa would be difficult to compare with other colonialists, since we had like, a bunch of it. However if you look at Africa in general, yes. Again, the French were pretty chill. COMPARED TO (2) OTHERS.

>>2282101
2000 years of history, minus 1870-1871 and 1939-1944. Literally 1995/2000 years of dominance in every possible domain. Stay mad and in denial.

>>2282316
>The methods used to establish French hegemony reached genocidal proportions and war, famine and disease led to the death of between 500,000 and 1 million of an estimated 3 million Algerians.[15][16][17]

>>2282465
>Genocidal proportions

Wew lad, it's then almost as bad as a genocide, but not quite, is it?
You want some wikipedia links to actual genocides perpetrated by the German, or will you be fine with not bringing up history ever again? Just in case you're in doubt, I don't mean the Holocaust, Hans.

>>2282646


I'd say killing hundreds of thousands of Algerians is at least as bad as killing tens of thousands of hereros, even if the latter is labeled as a genocide and the former just as having had "genocidal proportions". And it certainly disproves the claim that the French were "chill" in NA.

>>2282693
1) it's all about proportions, but intentions matters
2) NA means North America everywhere but in your mongoloid brain, you stupid half finished monkey. I'd spend 10 minutes listing a few of the insults that would fit you, but you're not worth half of them and really I can spend my time more wisely.
3) God.

>>2282712
t.tard

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>>2282101
They once won a war against the world
Germany tried twice but failed both times