Ulster

>>2273820
All of Ireland should belong to the Queen.

>>2273848
It does
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Ireland_Act_1542

>>2273820

>implying "in the right" or "true claim" has any meaning or relevance in realpolitik

lol

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"Ulster" is not a political entity, it is the nine northernmost counties on the island of Ireland, three of which are under the juristiction of the Republic of Ireland, six of which are under the juristiction of the United Kingdom.

>>2273820
愛爾蘭是摩爾的

>>2273820
Scotland because they are Scots larping as Irish

The irish only want it if they can be rid of the ulsterites
the british want it because, well, otherwise ulsterites would have to live with them in places like London, and nobody wants that.
North Ireland is a containment zone for ulsterites.

>>2273820
By de jure claim it belongs to the free state of the Republic of Ireland. If we are going by "might makes right" then it belongs to the UK as it does now, until such time that the Irish seize it back.
>before the Plantations it was an bunch of Irishman migrating with their cattle
This is unironically English propaganda to justify the plantation. There had been settlements in Ulster for hundreds of years and the Irish had their own system of governance to rule them.
You should always check your sources thoroughly and regard anything you read about pre 1920 Ireland with suspicion, there is countless propaganda pieces to paint the Irish are braindead savages

I guess rightfully Irelands, but as >>2273905 ""Ulster""as people recognize is it actually only a little lump of the province, snipped off because it had a lot of protestants.

When Catholics become the majority in the 6 counties (something which is going to happen quite soon), all they need is for the Irish economy to not be shit and there is literally no reason other than outdated sentiments of people unwanted by England to remain part of the UK.


>tfw loyalists can't into aesthetic borders

You fucking retards are the shame of white people everywhere.

The fucking 30 Years War ended a long fucking time ago.

Catholics and Protestants shouldn't be fighting each other anymore in fucking Europe unless you live in some Balkan shit-hole.

Cut the fucking shit already!

>muh rightful clay

You people should be exterminated. Northern Ireland should be a part of whatever entity they want to be a part of. Quick Googling shows that 70% wants to be part of the UK, compared to only 14% for a united Ireland. So there's your fucking answer, retard.

>>2274603
What is right is more important than what people want. Though neither what Ireland or Ulster wants is right.

>>2274621
>What is right is more important than what people want.

Kill yourself.

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>>2273820
I beg your pardon, sir. Are you implying Ulster is not the most ancient part of the United Kingdom?

>>2274621
What is right is nothing but an abstraction, what people want is what actually drives foward changes
Until the six counties of ulster have a nationalist majoity they will remain british, and even then there are other factors much stronger than ethnoreligiousness influencing the Ulster question, that was a relevant factor maybe until the 90's.

Imagine napoleon conquered Britain and planted a bunch of french in Cornwall, would that make Cornwall French?

No.

Ulster belongs to the people who live in it. If they want to remain part of the UK then that is that

If the Irish want to reclaim Ulster then they will have to take it by force

Simple as that

>>2274675
Yes

>>2273820
By right of conquest, settlement, and demographics the british

But a split ireland looks like shit on a map, so it should rightfully go to irela d

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STOP CALLING IT ULSTER

READ THIS

>>2273905
>>2273905
>>2273905
>>2273905

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2274764
>by force
As if we won't invite them

>>2273820
It belongs to the people that live there.

>>2274588
It has almost nothing to do with religion you stupid fucking yank
>>2274603
So if the majority of my street votes to become part of Norway, is it perfectly reasonable to make it so?

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>>2273905
>"Ulster" is not a political entity

tell that to an ulsterman

>>2274291
Catholic does not equal Irish nationalist anymore though.

>>2273820
I'm an ulster nationalist. Ulster should be free from the colonial grip of both London and Dublin.

>>2276403
it never did.

>>2273820
I support an independent 32 country ireland in the commonwealth.

>>2276412
m8 really now

>>2276412
This desu

All nationalists are idiots.

>hey those guys are like us, therefore we own them somehow
>but wait they don't want to be associated with us
>lol I don't care, let's conquer them to show our brotherhood

>>2276443
it was only banter

This entire island should be nuked from orbit.

t. Northern Potatolord

it belongs to the sea hopefully

>>2277030
Might bring jobs back to the docks I suppose