What was the peak of human civilization?

The United States and Western Europe, 1945-1979

Volcker/Thatcher/Reagan ruined it.

>>2268669
Probably around 1998.
Not after 2003.

That was the last year mankind had regular supersonic civilian flights.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde

>>2268704
This. Fuck, it hurts.

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>>2268669
The Golden Trump Era is the peak of human civilisation.

>>2268704
This but the actual effects were delayed such that the 90s were the actual peak years.

Maybe we won't fail and die. You never know.

it has yet to come.

1950s America.

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>>2268753
I think you mean the Golden Shower Era.

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>>2268669

Utopian pan-galactic immortality.

>>2268669
Fucking obviously the modern West.

The period shortly before the finno-korean hyper war

>>2268669

United States Pax Americana, c. 1946-1966 or so when the hippies started ruining society.

T. my father who lived through most of it

>>2270949
#NeverForget

We haven't even begun to peak yet

>>2268887
meant for >>2268715

>>2268669
European Middle Ages and early modern period.

>>2271209
Apart from cathedrals, you are wrong.

>>2271209
I would exclude early modern period. Globalization started there.

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>>2268669
one second before the Singularity

>>2271345
pretty cryptic, but also accurate.
unfortunately.

>>2268767
This.

european social democracy and welfare state.

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>What was the peak of human civilization?

Technically right now, we're shooting up in the Social Development charts* right at this very moment, i mean seriously you decadent fucks do not comprehend how easy we have it now compared to even 50 years ago.
FYI we only started skyrocketing in social development because of Industry.

*Note The Western Core is slightly above the East's in social development

1950s - Mid 2000s

Old Kingdom Ancient Egypt.

>>2268669
Around 1200. Before the church became totally decadent and before the protestant reformation which lead to the (((Enlightenment))) which lead to humanity being a mistake.

The present.

>>2268704
Redpill me on this

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>muh peak civilisation is technology and liberalism
So many filthy moderns on this board...

High Middle Ages are the peak.

>>2272053
enjoy dying from preventable diseases and living to age 50 with heavy arthritis from all of the farm work + grinding grain

The part where my ideology was prevalent in the U.S

1970s East Germany

Early 1300s.

- Gothic architecture
- birth of great Western art
- the beginnings of a Scientific Revolution
- chivalry and courtesy
- healthy traditions and values
- prosperity and even social mobility
- cultural and spiritual unity on the twin pillars of French hegemony and the Catholic Church

Then the Plague and the Hundred Years War hit and everything went to shit forever.

>>2272083
I disagree, it was the part where my ideology was prevalent in Europe

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>>2272101
>- cultural and spiritual unity on the twin pillars of French hegemony and the Catholic Church

>>2272128
What do you think that show is based on?

>>2272135
i'm well aware, just the bit about twin pillars and unity was very specific

The Bosnian war

Just before ww1

Literally now you reactionary autismos

>>2268715
Trump is the proof of the Western Decline you evangelize. You are the cause of what you preach.

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>>2268704
>1960s
>1970s
>pinnacle of anything but shit
The 70s are the one decade when I think living standards in the USSR were actually superior, it was just that horrifyingly bad in the US.

>>2268767
>Authoritarian regime
>Ethnic purges
>Books are being burnt
The 3rd Reich was the worst regime of the 20th century

1900-1910

belle epoque as a whole but that was the golden age

>>2272204
>liberal Whig history

Dustbin of history

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>>2268706
This

>>2272258
>when I think living standards in the USSR were actually superior

You would be profoundly incorrect.

>>2268669

h-hasn't happened yet

>peaks immediately

>>2268669
Pre-agriculture hunter gatherers. Farming was a mistake.

>>2272300

I think there are at least several below them just based on sheer material deprivation and lack of safety. Khmer Rouge-era Cambodia is the worst I can think of.

>>2268704
>being this deluded

>>2268704
So, the period when the Western world didn't had to compete with Asia because most of it was under socialism?

>>2272621
We owned most of Asia during the 19th-early 20th century.

We haven't peaked yet.

We're on a downgrade at the moment, but we've been steadily moving up as long as we've been around.

>>2268669
19th and early 20th centuries desu

Quite probably the 90s and the 00s until 2008.

>>2272739
I'd say until 2001.

Both because of post-9/11 paranoia and unrest, and because economic growth from 2000 to the recession was actually extremely sluggish.

German Reich without a hint of doubt.

We have yet to hit it

>>2268669
>was

>>2272124
You are fucking retarded it was when my ideology was prevalent in Asia

>>2272682
This T B H

>>2272682
>>2273039
It's hard to see another Golden Age unless something radical such as much cheaper space travel happens.

>>2268669
The Mesolithic period.

I don't think we've hit a "peak" yet. There have been higher points than we are at now in terms of culture and morals, but I don't think that means that were are going downhill forever. The ideological shock of the World Wars and the end of the Cold War will obviously have reverberations for a long time, but that doesn't mean we won't eventually bounce back.

The highest point collectively we were at was probably in the early 1910's. Society still had high culture and morals, and technology was dramatically improving lives as well. Had there been peace and not the utter ideological collapse of the world, then things would have continued improving overall; however, due to this collapse, we have only advanced in terms of technology and increased material living standards, rather than also in moral and cultural standards.

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>>2268669
This is where It all went downhill. A few heroes tried to save it but it was in vain.

Who pay for life insurance every month so I can be cryonically frozen when I die here?

I am going to be fucking my waifu while you spend the afterlaifu underground being eaten by worms.

>>2272300
>authoritarian regime
Yeah but Hitler's regime followed the leadership principle and it meant that he ended up giving power to really competent people in their respective fields. It also meant discussion took place as ideas on policy competed. There was still an elected body and members of that body had legitimate advising rolls to play though they didn't have the actual power a US senator had they still had a lot of influence and ability to change the system.

>ethnic purges
It was a race based state and non germans had to get out

>books being burnt
It was only one time and it was symbolic mostly porn, karl marx, and some hack plays. All the books were still available to read in the library.

No different then some college burning some porn, Star Wars VII and karl marx.

>>2272053
Late-early and early-high are peak

>>2271733
WE WUZ KANGSSSSSSSSSS

>>2268669
Pre-holocene

>>2271209
>middle ages?

Bitch where?????

>disease
>Starvation
>slavery, surfs, peasants

Modern era.
>mass genocide
>wars wars wars
>fall of Constantinople

>>2273170
>he ended up giving power to really competent people in their respective fields

>>2272000
this should be obvious unless you've been in a coma for the past 50 years

>>2272258
are you brain damaged or homeschooled?

>>2268704
first response best response

>>2273170
the whole country followed a syphilitic moron into a meat grinder and took tens of millions of other people with them. cool system, bro

>>2273279
But anon, Nubians didn't control Egypt until the 3rd Intermediate Period.

>>2273533

> tens of millions of other people
> people

debatable

>>2268704
This, and then the Boomer's came of age and ruined it for everyone else.

>>2272300
>>Authoritarian regime
>>Ethnic purges
>>Books are being burnt
is this 2017 or what

>>2273589

IT IS NO LONGER THE PRECEDING YEAR BUT RATHER THE CURRENT YEAR

>>2273527
Are you a beaner?

>>2272365
Did the 70s USSR have
>outrageous level of unemployment especially in the midwest
>worse murder, robbery and rape rates than African countries, urban centers become completely unlivable thanks to crime
>wacko cults and serial killers run rampant
>gas crisis
>foreign-funded domestic terrorism up the tits, bombings, arson, assassinations
>widespread drug epidemic
>malaise, aparhy and hostility towards your own nation rising to grotesque level thanks to a lost war and avalanches of counter-culture propaganda
Because if it didn't then it probably was a better place to live. 70s in the US were the worst decade since the Great American Depression and posibly ever.

>>2273533
You just described the Russian revolution complete with the syphilitic moron in charge.

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>>2268704
>70's
>peak of civilization

>>2273138
>having bad opinions

>>2273170
>competent people

The Battle of Stalingrad: Dude Where's My Airlift?

Right now.

the future

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>>2272258
This was down to an oil crisis used by ideologues as an excuse to abolish the system.

>>2268704
>>2274904
>>2272258
Well actually adding some nuance before I go to bed:

It's actually the end of Breton Woods in 1971 that fired the first shot. Free movement of capital is the devil incarnate.

They recognized this at Breton Woods but Americans insisted on using the USD instead of Bancor as the unit of account in the capital-control system, yada yada yada, US self interest came first in 1971, they killed the system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancor
gotta get this.

>>2273170
>Himmler
>competent

You are made of physical retard.

The revolution was a mistake

>>2268669
Anime

1816-1913

>>2271345
Unfortunatly very accurate

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>>2268704
How did Reagan or Thatcher ruin it? They may have failed to stop the decline but you simply cannot deny that they were elected in response to this problem.

Blaming them for this problem is like blaming a doctor who fails to cure a smokers cancer for the original cancer.

>>2275149
There was no cancer. The primary problem was cost-pull inflation from the OPEC embargo. Like the common cold, the solution was to wait, use some tissues to mop up excess consumption and take in lots of domestic fluids.

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>>2268669
Before 1880.

>>2273025
You are fucking wrong. T'was when we reigned over Antarctica.

>>2268669
1950-1970
the comfiest would be 1980-2000

>>2273748
The 70s USA:

>Had lower unemployment than the peaks in the 80s, over a shorter period of time.
>Relatively meh murder ( http://thepublicintellectual.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Homicides-1900-2010-2.jpg ) robbery ( http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/ldah6rdp6ukvngoyqi1fcg.gif ) and rape ( http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_images/rape-rates-765535.JPG ) rates, usually worsening into the 1980s and often into the 90s
>Without hard data, was probably no more cultish or serial-killerish than the 90s, just public perception and Jonestown.
>Had a gas crisis, but this was externally caused.
>did see increased drug use, but hardly an epidemic. http://www.cedro-uva.org/lib/harrison.cannabis.f2.gif , higher arrests in the 80s not being proportional to the reduction in usage achieved http://www.artsmartiauxcombat.com/rubriques/us-drug-use-statistics-i5.jpg
>Suffered malaise and declinism that was on the whole unwarranted and illusory, and was essentially a global phenomenon (the USSR had "The era of stagnation" and the UK suffered likewise)

The 70s get a bad rap, and my intent isn't even to defend them wholeheartedly - as far as I'm concerned we were fucked since 1971. The world just believes the 1970s were a decade far more miserable than they really were. By some measurements 1976 was Britain's happiest year ever, but in the popular mindset the entire decade was misery (and took place under a Labour government. Edward Who?)

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>>2277296
>>2273748
>Had lower unemployment than the peaks in the 80s, over a shorter period of time.
That was supposed to be an attached image. Here.

>>2275731
omg

>>2268669
When government and taxes weren't formed

>>2271976
Usually historians do not claim the decadent period of a civilization to be it's 'peak'. They denote that to be the 'decline'.

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>>2277381
Pre Christian time was really in downfall right guys

>>2277398
Rome not time btw
(Anti Christian shit posts already posting)

>>2268704
>US

Only if you're a white Anglo-Saxon protestant

>>2268669
early 1914

>>2268704
You forgot Canada, Australia, Argentina, New Zealand, etc... should be added to your list IMHO.

Probably Japan too, though unlike the West they peaked in the 1980s.

You people make fun of born in le wrong generation retards, yet you're even worse

>>2272739
Yeah something just changed in 2008. You could feel it. Age of Aquarius, Kali Yuga.

>>2268669
The west pre-suicidal multiculturalism. So like 50s, 60s, and 70s.

>>2272211
It is also proof of the second rise of the West.

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>>2277306
Go live in the woods then, faggot

>>2272053
enjoy dental care

>>2280621
I'm living in my car. Can I complain about the Gubmit?

>>2278281
Except "Music was better then!" is subjective as fuck whereas "Average pay in real terms was higher for someone in my line of work back then!" or "Housing costs relative to wages were much lower then!" or "If I was born then I might actually have got a pension when I'm too old to work!" are verifiable data.

>>2268704
>Reagan ruined
Fuck no, FDR ruined it with a delayed trigger.
>tfw it will never be 1950/60s America again