Why did it fail so badly?

>>2268337
Greeks aren't really empire builders.

>>2268341
are you implying that certain races and cultures have different dispositions?

>>2268347
Are you implying that "Greek" is a race?

Clearly cultures would have different methods of bureaucracy and political organization that would make them more ore less effective in matters of state.

>>2268366
Greek were actually a race at the time, in the superior sense of the word.

Why do people say Alex conquered the know world when there were several nations adjacent to his territories that he didn't conquer

>>2268537

i can smell the skidmark on your whitey tighties through my computer screen, go be literally retarded somewhere else please

>>2268550

the term "known world" is loaded with eurocentrism, as it was the world that was known to most people of the northern Mediterranean

not to diminish Alexander the Great's accomplishments. He was the greatest conqueror of his day. If he hadn't died so young its unlikely his generals and their descendants would have spent so many generations afterward warring with each other for the various parts of his empire.

>>2268550
>after the conquest of Persia alexander wept because he had no more worlds to conquer
>oh hey what's this, another world beyond Persia
>gets instantly BTFO
>dies like a bitch
>empire collapses
why did the romans idolize this guy so much

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>>2268341
>what was the Athenian Empire
>what was the uninterrupted 300 year rule of the Greek Successor Kingdoms

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>>2268337

>>2268646
>athenian "empire"

>>2269158
>forces the Ionian Greeks to pay tribute or they get razed and colonised
>not an Empire

Nice try Pericles. Even the Athenians admitted their hegemony was an empire preserved by their tyranny.

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>>2269173
>literally a few tiny hovels on the agean sea
>empire,

>>2268639
>>gets instantly BTFO
Is this what they teach in Pooland?

>>2269173
But the danish viking possessions was not a real empire, despite the fact that they made the english/frankish kings pay tax or have their cities razed, right?

>>2268337
Greeks all around did a shit job of assimilating natives to their culture. Ptolemies lasted so long because they assimilated to the local culture rather than the other way around. Seleucids especially did a shit job of catering to their Persian vassals, so when the opportunity came to jump ship they didn't hesitate. Also just look at those borders nigga, the Gippos had to deal with only a couple of rival neighbors and a bunch of desert tribals, the Selucids had half a dozen well established kingdoms on their borders plus they touched steppenigger land.

>>2268337

There was an incredible amount of technological, artistic, scientific, intellectual progress that occurred in the Hellenistic period.

The problem is that they all wanted to kill each other for 300 years, and wouldn't stop until they were broke and drained. United, they might have posed a challenge to Rome/Parthians, but individually they were usually one-and-done.

>>2268341
>"Kratistos"
What an absolute madman desu
I guess he wanted to make sure no one could outshine him

>>2268337
>Who shall succeed you o dear conquorer
>nngghh uuugh the strongest
>every general instantly goes 'yeah that me'

>>2269507

>assimilate
>don't bother to even learn Egyptian until Cleopatra

>>2268337
You mean "Why did the Antigonids and the Seleucids fail so badly."

Don't lump the likes of the Ptolemies with the rest of the failures.

>>2269138
fuck you you fucking hacks

>>2269613
>muscling your way into the local religion and becoming their god king
>not assimilating

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>>2271050

>God King of a religion of a people you aren't capable of communicating with on your own

Nigger speaking the language is the very first basic step of assimilation

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>>2268639
>gets instantly BTFO
He conquered all of Afghanistan and the Indus.

>>2271081
When has a king ever communicated with their subjects in their own tongue?

>>2271112
Those were Persian provinces during Alexander's conquests, only the upper part of Indus belonged to Taxila and to "kingdom of Poros"/Pauravas, which was a relatively minor strip of land in modern Punjab.

>>2269613
>until Cleopatra
Or after, for that matter.

>>2271143
Mithradates Eupator reportedly knew 20 languages and spoke to each of his different subject nations in their own tongue.

Even more related is that Peucestas did bother to learn Persian. I'd say some of the Seleucids also did since they were largely mixed.

>>2268639
He actually retreated because his soldiers were far from home for TEN YEARS and they had enough of world conquering.

>>2268337
Because it was lead by a misogynistic and sexist man