Is it fair to say WWI was won by the tank?

>>2266337
no it was won by massive food shortages in germany

No, it was won by attrition.

>>2266337
no it was won by the blood of countless innocent french men sacrificed in the name of liberty, never forget

it was won by sea mines

Go watch "Greatest Tank Battles" the ww1 episode. They scared the shit out of the Germans but the technology was so new no one really knew how to use them in battle

>>2266337

No, no it is not.

Tanks were nothing more than slow as fuck artillery bait.

The war was turning when the tanks appeared. Tanks were just the nail in the coffin if the allies hadn't invented tanks or mass produced them the end would have just had more casualties but same result maybe just better terms for Germany.

>>2266337
It was won by the British professionnal army (saving France in 1914), the British planes (which were the best in the war), the British artillery (which the Germans feared above all else), the British tanks (which the French copied), the British heart and valour (which held the line when the French army was busy mutinying) and the British Hundred Days (which broke Germany for good).

>>2266346

This. Like almost all wars, it was won by logistics.

>>2266408
t. nigel

>>2266408
>The Renault FT copied the Mk tanks
Kek nice meme.

>>2266337
It was won by naval superiority and the german blocking

WW1 was a war of attrition. WW2 was fought all the way to Berlin.

Maybe WW1 could have been fought all the way to Berlin, but at the time gaining ground came at an enormous cost, even with tanks, which is why they signed the treaty of Versailles instead of demanding unconditional surrender. Germany accepted because it had lost the war of attrition and the economy and society was imploding trying to maintain the front.

>>2266408
t. Lindybeige

>>2266346
Now you are going to tell me that lebensraum and Japanese imperialism was about food too.

>>2266571
of course, the entire underpinning of the war was for control of resources, food was just as important as iron and oil.

Of course the British Empire, China, the US, and USSR all have the resources of entire continents behind them, so what better way to flip the world order than to try and take those who hold the resources and therefore the power?

>>2266571
>lebensraum
Sold to the public as a Germanic birth right

Grain, ore, coal, oil, minerals to fuel the war machine.

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>>2266408

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*blocks your path*

>>2266408
Lindybeige pls

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>>2266807

ops wrong picture

>>2266444
At the time Germany surrendered, they had lost the war of attrition and the way to Berlin was wide open
They gave up before it to save lives because they werent lead by a suicidal madman like Adolf, but at that point the Allies could easily have conquered Germany

>>2266408
the eternal anglo

>>2266337
no
America did

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>>2266408

>>2266817
they could have conquered it with the addition of US troops but at extreme cost It would have costs millions more lives, and the US wouldn't have been nearly as powerful coming out of the war and wouldn't have had as much bargaining power. The whole situation changes if germany is conquered and a lot more people die.

>>2266879
That is some shit art style.

>>2266813

could czech hedgehogs have stopped all ww1 tanks?

>>2267032

Pretty much. WWI tanks had trouble just getting across a simple field, much less any real obstacles put in their way.

>>2266947
The guys in the back aren't bad, but holy fuck everything about that head is just wrong.

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>>2266813
*Drives around/blows up*

>>2266879
So why do Japs love to portray girls in male roles again?

>>2266337
No

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>mfw i will never approach a german machine gunner at a speed of 6 miles an hour until eventually crushing his bones with my big heavy tank

No. They basically only had a small psychological impact.
>bring 20 tanks
>half are broken before engaging
Wow.......

>>2266408
>British artillery (which the Germans feared above all else),
wrong, was french

>>2268027
Why are you non-ironically responding to him?

>>2266408
You forgot the absolute naval domination, tanks and creeping barrage which we perfected.

>>2266571
Are you fucking stupid that's literally what they were for

>>2268125
Rude

>>2266408
Didn't know lindy beige browsed his

>>2267122
Why did child bearing hips go the way of the dodo?

>>2266337

No. They were plagued by mechanical failures, and the Germans eventually learned to counter them.

WW1 was won because the Entente was way stronger than the Central Powers.

>>2266408
You forgot to add British officers not ducking which boosted morale for all the Allies.

>>2266337
No, not at all.

>>2266337
not in any way or form you nut. all these things did was get stuck in the mud and fall apart.

Combined arms

Won by doctrines adapting to these technologies

>>2266408
t. brenman

>>2267127
[spoiler]It's a 25 years old sadistic salaryman that tipped his feodra so hard God sent him back to ww1 as a little girl[/spoiler]
https://my.mixtape.moe/vwshxo.webm

>>2269620
gayness

>>2266337
No. It was won by the Royal Navy starving Germany of food supplies. There was quite literally a revolution due to mass starvation.

>>2269686
That video reminded me why the only youtube "historian" I bother with is Matt Easton

>>2269770
>>2269758
why bother posting about things you have no knowledge of

>>2266916
what are you even talking about
the us had like ten dudes fighting in WW1 and they were deployed in hardly any real fighting because of their lack of experience
the only thing that would have changed would be a less likely chance to have a world war two, since the french diplomats would likely have been in a better position to take the nordrhein, and the germans wouldn't have gotten out of the war with virtually no damage to their infrastructure.

>>2266337
No, it was won by combined arms technology.

>>2270462
Military History Visualized is also good.

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>>2266408

>>2269620
c- sections are part of the reason, women who had hips which were too thin have a heightened chance of dying during child birth. Due to the increasing amount of c-sections there is no longer such a barrier preventing women with thin from having children. It is still a desirable trait to have mind you, but generations of women who have thin hips may inevitably give birth to children with even thinner hips which will increasingly require more c-sections.

>>2270625
US involvement was crucial to scaring germany into a surrender. As soon as American troops set foot in europe, the Germans knew it was only a matter of time. They were completely bleed dry of resources, manpower, and willpower. They were already losing the western front just to the innovation of British tactics and to the resolve of French forces, and so when it became clear that millions more men just became available for the allies at the most crucial junction of the war when germany had to win fast or lose everything. If germany didn't surrender, then the allies would have eventually pushed the Germans back to their territory but at the cost of many more lives. The US was able to bargain with such a powerful position because their army and infrastructure remained in tact whereas the armies of Europe were pale, depressed, disillusioned shells of what they were. If the United States took more of a beating to their army, then isolationists would have had a much better argument moving forward and the US would have had a lot less men to push around their old colonial masters with in the aftermath.

In fact, keeping the green US troops out of the war until that point turned out to be a huge tactical advantage, because it meant that the allies got a huge batch of fresh troops that were surprisingly brave. Ultimately germany's last hope was to scare the Americans into being a nonfactor, but the mere fact that they stuck it out and even had some moments of unexpected bravery sent a clear message to Germany that these Americans would not be so easily neutralized, and so the nail was planted firmly in the coffin. American involvement, and their subsequent bravery in spite of low expectations, struck a psychological blow to germany's will to fight.

>>2266337
No.

Tanks didn't really matter in WWI.

>>2266408
This.

In after (and b4 even more) butthurt frogs.

Without Britain both France and Russia would have fallen.

>>2271904
You said it yourself, the germans were already losing hard. At That point one hjndred thousand more deaths wouldnt have changed anything.
Having fresh troops did not give them a Superior bargaining power; being of the same mind as the british did. Which ended up fucking over France hard later.
Losing even two million men would still have left them with twenty times that at home.
>surprisingly brave
Now you're Just memeing

>>2272371
You can say the same about France and Russia, retard
It means nothing

Gas Shit and artilleries, Gas Shit and artilleries, Gas Shit and artilleries, repeat it

>>2266408
lindy, make a video about how rome fell to the british

>>2266337
Why didn't that tank style prevail? What makes it inferior to the tanks produced in WWII or now?

>>2272610
>It means nothing

It means that Germany was superior to the so called British Empire "superpower"

>>2274876
But Britain won two world wars

>>2272610
Germany was no threat to Britain. Britain saved your ass.

>>2272610
How could Britain have fallen you utter among?

>>2266408
go away lindy

if tanks were at the time something you absolutely needed to succeed in the first world war then the Germans wouldn't have built less than one hundred

>>2268125
I want to say "that's the joke" but I feel like this is already a third layer of facetiousness

>>2277388
Germans couldn't build more because they were resource starved

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>>2268047
>absolute naval domination
The British only left their lair in Scapa Flow two or three times because they were so scared of the High Seas Fleet

>>2277412
So I assume German just chose to not import the resources and good they needed because of... Reasons?

>>2274842
It's literally inferior in every metric.

>>2274842
Turning is slower

>>2277553
Gun placement is shit, size leads to shit armoring, horribly inefficient in terms of materials, crew is too large

>>2277412
>The Germans only left their lair in Wilhelmshaven two or three times because they were so scared of the Grand Fleet

Fixed.

not in the slightest. both sides threw away millions of lives needlessly and without thought or strategy long before the tank.

>>2266358
*Never baguette

>>2277592
>needlessly and without thought or strategy
Its like you're trying to be retarded

>>2277725

it's like you don't even british and french WWI generals

>>2277402

and yet there were resources for what they felt they needed

>>2277858
No they didn't though