RIP in peace Palmyra ;_;7

It is always sad when artifacts and ancient sites like this get damaged.

But let's not put the blame on an entire religion due to the actions of a few extremists another certain board of low-IQ individuals would do.

>>2254279
can you fuck off already

I'm not sure which one of you are worse, /pol/tards or anti-/pol/tards

>>2254273
>Pagan degeneracy.
Nothing of value was lost.

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>>2254279
Right, just because a select "few" people terrorize the world lets not blame the rest of the followers of a ancient religion with a history of brutality and terrorism stretching to modernity. #notallmuslims amaright?

I dont know whats worse, the followers of a savage religion or the ones who defend them.

>>2254291
>>2254291
>>2254291
>>2254291
>>2254291

IT IS A RELIGION OF PEACCCEEEE

>>2254279
>>>/f/acebook

>>2254279
Fuck off kid. Islam has been trashing sites of importance since Muhammed smashed up the Kaabaa.

>>2254279
>religion literally bans statues of all kinds, musical instruments, drawings of animals etc
>hurrr islam dindu nuffin

Anyways, this is fucking embarrassing for Russia and Assad after all that propaganda last year

>>2254279
The majority of Nazi Party members were not involved in any war crimes. I guess by your standards Nazism is innocent - just blame Hitler.

>>2254279
That's why the Quran and many has an and toptier rated hadiths order destruction of artifacts right ?

It'll get rebuilt for the tourism shekels

>>2254299
>>2255067
>>2255081
>>2255136
How is that any different from Christian destruction of Pagan cultural artifacts, or Iconoclasts destruction of other Christian's art? Before you start acting like Islam is a unique "cancer" look at how much of your own heritage has been destroyed by fanatics.

>>2255143
It's not, but we're living in an era where the appreciation and preservation of historical artifacts is paramount.

>>2255143
5/10 because you're getting replies

religion of peace trolling is kinda old hat and too easy with all the stormfags thou

>>2255143
>not at the same scale
>adapting was often preferred over destruction
Meanwhile in mudslime land
>durr let's try to tear down the pyramids
>durr blow up da Buddha

>>2255145
>appreciation and preservation of historical artifacts is paramount.

It really isn't. Sure ISIS gets all the press, but far more damage is done to historical artifacts in developing countries. Globalization is doing more to destroy remnants than a bunch of Arabs.


>>2255153
>pagan shrine gets pulled down
>peasants go on with their lives
>isis blows up ancient monuments
>instantly reported to the entire world

Gee, I wonder why it seems like they're destroying the past on a greater scale.

And real talk. Who do these monuments belong to? The dead people that built them? The nation they currently lie in's people?
The future generations who might or might not appreciate them?

>>2255153
Palmyra and the buddhas were protected the several centuries before by muslims.

>>2255153
yeah, because it's not like islamic regimes and muslims protected or kept intact the bamiyan buddha or palmyra for all these years.

What'a wrong with destruction of cultural heritage, exactly?

>>2255242
*What's

>>2255110
>comparing a 1400 year old global religion to a 20th century german political ideology
apples and oranges

>>2255153
>durr let's try to tear down the pyramids
this never happened, the pyramids were damaged in an earthquake which made most of the capstones fall off, they were then used to build mosques instead of repairing the pyramids.

>>2255242
Lost tourism shekels.

At least Palmyra was a place people wanted to go to before. Now it's rocks in a desert. Arguably it was always rocks in a desert, but at least the rocks were carved into a shape people wanted to visit. Now it's just rubble.

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>>2254273
Palmyra had it coming, it was an islamophobic monument.

Let this be a lesson to other ancient buildings that dare remind the peaceful Muslims about the Jahiliyah.

>>2255268
This is the most plebeian post I've ever read on /his/.

>>2255271
>m-m-muh hurritage

Shitting humans 2000 years ago carved some temples and now they're gone. Sorry for your loss. Life will move on.

>>2255272
Why are you even on this board if you hate history?

>>2255276
>& Humanities

>support isis because it is against russian aligned middle-eastern leaders
>get triggered when the religious nutjobs act according to their beliefs and destroy historical artifacts that they deem to be haram or pagan

>>2255280
Well doubly so then, because humanities includes art and aesthetics.

Seems contradictory to me to be flippant about architectural monuments from a time gone by being destroyed when you're on the board that cherishes these kinds of things.

>>2255172
>>2255242
You're really going to ask such questions on /his/? Why are you here?

>>2255262
And the Sphinx lost hev nose in nam right also yes some Arab shitlord during the Umayyad period tried to but only managed to get a few stones out hence the small corner missing in one of them

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This thread is now about triggering Sand people and leftist cuckolds with European and art and purity.

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>>2255262
Wrong

>>2255305
Delet this

>>2255289
To discuss history and humanities, duh
You haven't answered my question. What's wrong with destruction of shrines worshipped by pagans if their beliefs and practices are objectively wrong?

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>>2255326
Nothing is wrong with it. Just like nuking media or mecca, not much will be lost.

It's just that we value ancient civs more than your pedophile goatfucking current one. :)

>>2255326
>What's wrong with destruction of shrines worshipped by pagans if their beliefs and practices are objectively wrong?

>are objectively wrong?

t. Farooq Ibn Saud

>>2255330
What's wrong with pedophilia and goatfucking?

>>2255317
>>2255318
>>2255319
>>2255323
nice, but do you have any with severe weather? always liked paintings of storms and such

>>2255335
What are you, a pagan?

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>>2255342
It's the degenerate pastime of a sand people with the IQ of a squirell and it should be made illegal along with your faggotry.

>>2255343
Don't have many on my phone but I'll look.

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>>2255305
Filthy kuffar, this time they will get the job done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xvdHYcvoek

>sandniggers destroy middle eastern monument
>I will trigger them by posting enlightenment era art

epic thread.

>>2255347
>It's the degenerate pastime of a sand people with the IQ of a squirell

And? How does this make it a bad thing?

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>>2255351
>middle eastern monument
>Palmyra
You fail at history.

>>2255353
Because I said so. Fuck your liberalism, pleb.

>>2255355
Not an argument

>>2255355
its in the middle east.

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>>2255359
>something being in the middle east makes it middle eastern
I guess Köningsberg was a Slavic pagan megacity with flying carbs before the Germans came.

>>2255358
>arguments
I see your argument and I raise you a Gulag.

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>>2255365
Cars

>>2255365
Can you stop posting this garbage? Every piece of art you have posted thus far has been plebeian shit.

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>>2255365
>>something being in the middle east makes it middle eastern

What did he mean by this

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>>2255374
Hm... No. Go make a menstrual canvas post modern cuckold.

>>2255376
Hellenism, Roman Empire

>>2255365
>something being in the middle east makes it middle eastern

Yes it does. Are you retarded?

>>2255380
>hellenism
>half was hellas was in anatolia
>greatest greek city is now a part of an islamic nation.
Lets face it. You want to do an art dump, do it in another thread.
No one is getting triggered by your paintings. Create a thread for it and we can discuss your paintings in it.

>>2255365
>I guess Köningsberg was a Slavic pagan megacity with flying carbs before the Germans came.

No one said Palmyra was Arabic. It's more like saying Kaliningrad is East European.

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>>2255382
Nope it really doesn't. Maybe geographically but even you can't be so retarded as to think that we are talking about geographical location over cultural influence, right?

Europe made Palmyra great.

>>2255390
I never said it was Arabic either. But neither Middle Eastern.

>>2255388
>Istanbul
Okay Turkey we got it. But if you're not triggered why did you reply?

>>2255110
Different anon here.

He wasn't comparing Nazism and Islam as such, moreover comparing how people regard the two, i.e. Nazism is totally bad, whilst Islam is good but with a crazy minority. Nonetheless, Islam and Nazism have very similar traits in practice.

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>>2255258
see
>>2255396

>>2255395
because you aren't adding anything to the thread. All the pictures you dump will not be appreciated.

Make a new one. Art dumps are always welcome, but please make an art dump thread.

>>2255399
because islam in practice has had tons of variation depending on everything from local weather and diet while nazism was specifically a german ideology that rose up in the aftermath of ww1.

>>2255396
It's not a great comparison, as Nazism was never anything but what it was. A better comparison is with nationalism, of which Nazism was one of its uglier faces that soured a lot of people on nationalism in general.

>>2255396
>Islam and Nazism have very similar traits in practice

Such as?

>>2255409
The original comment was about the whole idea of Islam being a good religion with a minority of fundamentalists. That's a somewhat fair comment with regards to the people of the religion. Clearly not all Muslims are Jihadis. However, that doesn't mean the religion itself is in the clear to exist without criticism and vilification. The majority of members of the Nazi were just members and were not involved in war crimes, yet nobody has ever said "Nazism was peaceful, it's just a minority that are radical". Clearly the majority of the Nazi Party, whilst innocent, were in favour or at least not bothered by the crimes of Nazi Germany. Can the same be said for Muslims? It's debatable, although (from my experiences) it's very similar.

>>2255411
I'm not the same guy, but the two comparisons that spring to mind are the beliefs that a certain type of person is superior to others, and the use of warfare to spread the ideology.

>>2255145
We are.
But only from a upper class western perspective.
Beyond that, we aren't doing jack shit to preserve them.

>>2255142
Its too big for that.
I can't think of a tourism site that is bigger than 100x100 meters. Even gigantic museums is rather small, once you look at the structure versus what they house

>>2254299
>Ancient religion
>Islam
Excuse me what ?
Islam litteraly is one of the most recent abrahamic religions out there

>>2255528
1300 years is quite old compared to the many offshoots of Judaism and Christianity.

>>2255143
>Own heritage
Fuck off mate my ancesters where budhist and islam has quite litteraly wiped that heritage out of countries like afghanistan

>>2254273

What cultural structure do you guys think these mudslimes would need to destroy before people actually gave a shit? I am willing to bet it would take nothing short of the Pyramids or the Vatican being attacked before the normies actually got outraged enough to let unlimited bombing campaigns to start again. I don't want to see more places of cultural relevance damaged and I'm scared it will just keep happening until we annihilate these extremist assholes from the face of the planet.

>>2255535
Good. Islam > Buddhism

>>2255546
>annihilate these extremist assholes from the face of the planet.

Sounds pretty extremist desu

>>2255546
The west is impotent and weak in all regards not connected to immediate economic needs as it is afraid of its potential of crueltly, our demographic is collapsing and many countries of its sphere are suffering an identity crisis.
There wont be a muzziecaust.

>>2255556

I don't care. These assholes see no value in history and only want a caliphate without end. They can die in the sands that their fathers unfortunately created them in.

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>ITT: we unironically defend the Islamic State's destruction of ancient world heritage sites, fuck the 4th Geneva Convention y'all!
Wew ladderinos

>>2255587
Spotted the liberal

>>2255459
Explain christianity and Constantine conducting his later campaigns line a crusade then.

>>2255612
Maybe you should explain what Constantine has to do with "Islam is a religion of peace" no longer being a viable excuse.

>>2255618
Islam is a religion and like all religions it is viable to be misused. It's nothing special, either in it's propensity for violence or in people using it for their own political ends.

It's not a religion of peace. It's not a religion of war either. It's just a total worldview that is based around the clannish structure of arabia that codifies laws.

>>2255622
>It's not a religion of peace
So you agree with the original point?

>>2255656
I just think that the problems of islam have more to do with the middle eastern geopolitics and culture. Iranian muslims I have met are rather chill people.

>>2254279
>>2254273
Anyone else unironically hope someone will go apeshit and blow up the Kaaba?

God I would be so fucking aroused by the sheer nuclear butthurt.

>>2255684

ISIS would be okay with that, they view it as idolatry. So it wouldn't be productive.

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Islam never contributed to anything. They're only good at destroying shit.

>>2255701
0/10

>>2255684
ISIS already tried to blow up the Kaaba

>>2255268

That makes me think, is there even any place in the middle east worth visiting for their history other than Istanbul (if you can consider it as ME) or Cairo ?
I can't think of anything interesting to see in Iran for example other than Persepolis.

Most mosques are copy paste from Ottoman or Mamluk mosques.

>>2255684
Isis wants to do that. They think it's idolatry

>>2254273
tbf it's no different from when Christians did this on a continental wide scale in the Americas. I blame abrahamic religions in general, when their religion starts out as only my god is the real one and all others are fake, all pre-abrahamic cultures were idolators, it's not suprising that the more extreme members of such group end up like the zealot inquisitors and ISIS.

I know they destroyed roman amphitheater but still... how will people trust on nimrud's tales if they don't have archeology to factcheck their existence?
isis is doing more damage to islam than good for it by this imo

>>2255143
And then you dumbasses pull the christianity is just as bad bullshit. No its not. Christians gave up their violent acts and practices centuries ago, they're not blowing themselves up, they're not as bad as koran savages. You guys are a dime a dozen, can't come up with anything new and then act holier than thou with your nose turned up.

>>2256026
>Christians gave up their violent acts and practices centuries ago

No they didn't.

>they're not blowing themselves up

Yes they do

Are you retarded?

>>2256043
Its not like Christians are throwing gays off roofs and going into market places filled with women and children wearing a suicide vest. Give me an example of an organized christian movement like isis or al qaeda in recent times.

>>2256165
The IRA?
>protestant or catholic?

>>2254279
Fuck off cuck. They want to blow up the great pyramids too. Stop enabling these savages. Their shit-book literally tells them to kill and destroy what is non-islamic.

>>2256165
The IRA.

>>2256282

>Their shit-book literally tells them to kill and destroy what is non-islamic

you better hope nobody in Egypt ever reads the Quran then

>>2255346
Yes

>>2256165
Army of God
Eastern Lightning
Lord's Resistance Army
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Ku Klux Klan
Antibalaka
Irish Republican Army
Catholic Reaction Force
Protestant Action Force
Orange Volunteers
Aryan Nations
Christian Identity groups

More like RIP in pieces amirite

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>>2256282
>cuck
Sad. Being so afraid of the concept of cuckoldry that you project a thin veneer of masculinity-obsessed conservatism to the world is the ultimate cuckoldry.

>Their shit-book literally tells them to kill and destroy what is non-islamic.
Source?
Also, whether or not the book literally tells them that, only fundamentalists take the book literally on all counts. This goes for all religions. The key difference is that Islam's undergone a reformation of sorts quite recently, with the result being a shift towards more fundamentalist thinking and practice.

>>2255143
>How is that any different from Christian destruction of Pagan cultural artifacts

It's not. Unfortunately, Christianity is now so deeply rooted in the West that many can't see this.

This doesn't make Islam any better though.

>>2255731
On top of my head there is in iran behistun,damavand (natural not historical but still beautuful),isfahan, Cyrus the greats tomb and the bam citadel( it was destroyed during an earthquake in 2004 but its being rebuilt) and many more.

>>2255153
Christians literally destroyed hundreds of thousands of religious sites and built churches on top of them. Tenochtitlan is a pretty massive scale would you say?

>>2255365
>he thinks middle eastern is a culture, not a region
kek

>>2255365

Well memed, m8, almost was on board til this lowered the subtlety a bit.

>>2255587

I don't think anyone's arguing about ISIS anymore, now we're all shitflinging about ethnicity :^)

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>>2254273

>all that triumphalism when Russia and Assad retook it
>even fly in a major orchestra to perform in the Amphitheater that IS just partially blew up
This is just embarrassing

>>2255143
probably because it isn't happening right now?

>>2255975
It's not even a religious thing. It's a shitty human thing. People have destroyed the buildings/heritage of others for many other reasons throughout history.

>>2254273
how did people sit in those seats? did each person have the legs of the person behind them touching their back, or did they sit on every other row, or cross-legged or what?

Why do people think saying "Well uh Christians did it too!" matters it doesn't excuse anything and everyone already knows that.

>>2257303
why?

>>2257391
it's usually shit the catholic church did anyway, not something condoned by all christians

>>2255242
>>2255326
>What's wrong with destruction of shrines worshipped by pagans if their beliefs and practices are objectively wrong?
>Stop liking things I don't like
>implying it's okay to repeat some of the worst losses of history and culture and act like idiots in the past did by literally going 'why not, it's useless,what's the worst that could happen, etc. ', failing to use any critical thinking or have any apprection of history and culture
>implying theirs nothing wrong with literally not learning from history and destroying shit you and future generations can learn from
He's >>2255289 right why are you here if your if your asking stupid questions like this. Attitudes like yours are why OP's pic, the Ziggurat and and alot of other cool shit we'll never learn anything about now is gone.

>>2255349
>Fill up the Nile River
Wait, so he wants Egyptians to commit national suicide?

>>2255365
>Using gulags
Get off the board, you pinko faggot

>>2256241
>>2256291
>>2256377
Remind us again how are those relevant today

>>2259364
Some of them are still active

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>>2254279
RADICAL

ISLAMIC

TERRORISM

>>2256165
Phalangists

>>2255258
>German
Austrian

>>2255622
>Islam is a religion and like all religions it is viable to be misused
According to Islam, using it as Mohamed did is not misuse, but correct.

>>2259451
and they're irrelevant, unlike ISIS

No one cared about it until it was destroyed. If you did, please explain to me how you plan on preserving or restoring it.

>>2259782
No they are not. Plus, ISIS are actually good guys, unlike the terrorist organizations I have listed

>>2259951
t. Obama

>>2259977
Obama doesn't even support Al-Nusra or even much more moderate Islamic Front.

>>2260023
>moderate

>>2260025
Comparatively moderate, of course. Even Al-Qaeda is moderate in comparison with ISIS.

Anyway, it's not like Islamic Front will actually carry out acts of terrorism against Americans, so we can safely arm them, but again, we don't even do that.

>>2255067
>since Muhammed smashed up the Kaabaa.
Citation needed

>>2255684
I'd like to see that happen. It's what they deserve.

>>2260051
Hillary, you lost, sorry, no sharia for Syria.

>>2256460
>Also, whether or not the book literally tells them that, only fundamentalists take the book literally on all counts.

you wanna know how many muslims view the Qur'an as the literal word of God and therefore the ultimate way to live life?

you'd be surprised

3/10 if you were baiting

>>2260194
Whom do you mean by "they"? Moderate Muslims that think that Kaaba should not be destroyed? It's actually the Radical Muslims who want Kaaba to be blown up because they consider it to be a symbol of idolatry.

>>2260204
Sharia is already partially implemented in Syria. Don't tell me that you fell for the "Assad is secular" maymay

>>2260216
>Alawite
>Sharia
Nice try

>>2260051
>Anyway, it's not like Islamic Front will actually carry out acts of terrorism against Americans, so we can safely arm them, but again, we don't even do that.

And restart the cycle started from the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan? Fug no.

>>2255374

The other reply was right you know: those are done truly piss poor examples of art. Very much like the shit posting in this thread. Whole things bland and unoriginal

>durrrr islam being a piece of shit is o.k. bc christians did the same thing!!!!!1
>1000 years ago when almost every culture and society on earth would gladly do the same horrible thing without blinking an eye

this argument has never worked and never will, retards

>DURR ITS okay that my uncle raped a 12-year old because 1000 yaers ago YOUR uncle probably raped many 12 years olds!!!!!1

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Our God (Orthodox, the true Christian God) destroyed the Pompeiis. Do you know why?
>pic related

>>2254273
didnt' russian orchestra play here?