The Original Europeans were dark skin/resembled Africans

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GYPSY

>found in a cave in the Carpathian mountains of Romania

Yeah that's about right Romania is still basically africa

Doesn't this mean at the time of the beginning the entire history of the Roman Republic to the fall of the Roman Empire was dark skinned Europeans

if we take the 6000-8000 year figure accurate, of white skin coming into play?

>>2245289
It doesn't really matter to them I would assume. Whites didn't exist then and neither did the Bantu

>>2245302
>Roman empire existed 8000 years ago

>>2245302
it was between 12000 and 6000 years iirc

>>2245308
so that would mean all those German nationalists in the 19th century that were obsessed with Ancient Greece and Rome were praising dark skin Europeans....

>>2245312
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending?

>>2245317

Ancient Greece begins in about 7000 BC

thats roughly 9000 year difference between today and Ancient Greece

hence dark skin

>>2245326
You said Roman empire. Roman empire didn't exist until 27 BC and the Roman republic in 509 BC. How in the actual fuck did you manage to squeeze them into 5000 BC?

>ancient Greece begins in about 7000 BC
Begins what? The first Greek civilization, if they can even be called Greek, were the Minoans from 3500 BC onwards.

>>2245337
so you claim at the time the Europeans during the Roman Empire were light skin?

>>2245340
Why would I claim otherwise?

>>2245340
That is what they were, mostly yes.

>>2245340
Yes.

>>2245346
how did Europeans become white then?

how did they become white from black?

>>2245326
700 BC*

>>2245326
That's a pretty generous time frame for ancient Greece.

>>2245351
When there is tens of thousands of years of adaptation and intermixing with neanderthals, people's physical characteristics tend to change.

>>2245366

so white people aren't full human

>>2245351
>who is Yakub

>>2245358
exactly

Fucking Mesopotamia, you know the first civilization, didn't arise until about 3200 BC...

one can realistically date the beginning of Ancient Greece to about 1100 BC at the earliest

>>2245370
By that logic, no one from Eurasia is completely "human" because they all have some small percentage of Neanderthal DNA. Maybe they're more human and Sub Saharan Africans aren't fully human. Don't start this race baiting shit.

>>2245379
>Don't start
Not that anon, but OP already went there.
also anon is probably OP.

>>2245289
35000 years seems like a pretty short timeframe for features to change so dramatically

>>2245379
>>2245379

You know Isaac Newton, the great white scientist that many praise...he was obsessed with Black African civilization...in fact he knew his science was no where near the level of Ancient Egyptians

this is what he said

"I have worked my whole life in dedicating science to the Gods, but I know for well that I will never reach the level of the Black Egyptians with their mastery of domain. May the glory of God bless their great epoch of history"

>>2245289
>White Skin is only 8000 years old

Agriculture's 10000, what's your point?

>>2245395
You know where this is going to lead. Don't make me say it.

>>2245398
Say what ?

>>2245289
It makes sense really. The smart Africans didn't all turn white and leave the continent.

>>2245411
WE

>>2245370
This is true, and they only exist due to HSS literal cucking of Neanderthals.

Subhuman cuckbabies.

Literally who cares
The first modern humans probably resemble today's khoi-san
Everyone knows this already

>>2245413
WUZ

>>2245413
WUZ

>>2245423
>>2245426
KANGZ

>>2245428
>>2245426
>>2245423
>>2245413

We did it Reddit!

How the fuck is it possible that 99% of /his/ doesn't know about the origins of modern Europeans?
1. dark skinned blue eyed hunter gatherers
2. lighter skinned otherwise dark farmers from Anatolia
3. mixed pigmentation Indo-Europeans from the steppe
4. social selection to enhance light traits

how do they determine skin pigmentation?

>>2245289
they wuz australoidz

Our model suggests that during this period of climatic upheaval, the descendants of the hunter-gatherers who survived through the Last Glacial Maximum were largely replaced by a population from another source

The new data show that the mitochondrial DNA of three individuals who lived in present-day Belgium and France before the coldest period in the last Ice Age -- the Last Glacial Maximum -- belonged to haplogroup M. This is remarkable because the M haplogroup is effectively absent in modern Europeans but is extremely common in modern Asian, Australasian, and Native American populations.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160204150602.htm


Haplogroup M is considered the australoid group

Haplogroup M2 [2] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M3 [3] - found mainly in South Asia
Haplogroup M29'Q found among Papuans, Australian Aborigines
Haplogroup M31 [24] - found among the Onge, in the Andaman Islands[15]
Haplogroup M32 [25] - found in Andaman Islands
Haplogroup M33 [26] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M33a - found in India
Haplogroup M34 [27] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M40 [30] - found in South Asia[15]
Haplogroup M41 - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M42 [31] - found among Australian Aborigines
Haplogroup M5 [5] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M6 [6] - found mainly in South Asia

>>2245482
DNA

>>2245419
For the last time ASIANs are the most neanderthal and all non African humans including Abos have Neanderthal DNA.

>>2245436
>implying we read anything other than /pol/ macros
Negro please.

>>2245620
Asians have low neanderthal and fairly high denisovan

>>2245673

Nope. You're thinking of Australians.

Asians have slightly higher Neanderthal(and a very tiny slice of Denisovan) because there were migrations into Europe by populations which carried admixture from a people who had much less Neanderthal admixture(Basal Eurasian) but which was still about as equally distant to Negroid populations as other Eurasians, except for the Neanderthal specific drift.

>>2245609
this bitch is dominican

>>2245419
If white people aren't human then being human is shit.

Just because someone has dark skin doesn't mean they're African mogoloid.

>Pre 4k BC
bunch of nignogs hit their heads on rocks
>Post 4k BC
God creates white ppl, gives them a consciousness

I guess the Bible was right

White nationalism has always been retarded and was invented by Americans in the 19th century.

>>2245351
>how did Europeans become white then?
Evolution

>>2245302
>>2245312
>>2245326
>>2245340
This is fucking terrific bait. I mean absolutely golden.

>>2245387
Look at every other species with different breeds. It only takes a few hundred years for massive changes

>>2245289
remember to sage folks

>>2245289
>8000 years old
The world is only 6,000 years old

>>2245724
t. anti white faggot

>>2245740
the world literally started when I was born in 1993 and I won't let any of you fucking robots tell me otherwise

White=Evolution
Black=Involution

Historically proved.

>>2245436
So hypothetically if we transplanted a million Africans to the Arctic Circle and left them in isolation for a couple thousand years, could they have developed a lighter complexion?

So the Bronze Age was KANGZ n shiieeet?

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>>2246415
Yes, you dumbass

>>2245289
A good thing we evolved since then
I wish Africans did too, Africa would be a paradize on earth...

>>2245387
IT'S NOT. Sweeping alleles can happen EXTREMELY rapidly, especially in stuff that increases sperm success/modality. Humans have evolved rapidly in JUST the last 10,000 years; agriculture and popularion density completely changed the game of human evolution--look how rapidly highly-selected stuff like disease resistance has flown thorough human populations.

Another instance is looking at Ethiopian lactose tolerance--the evolutionary response to a single period of famines.

Evolution can be very rapid, especially for singular traits.

>>2245289
>dark skinned

Yes

>resembled Africans

Maybe the Khoisan, but not actual black people like me. By 20,000 years ago Europeans looked like they do today but darker (except North Euros).

>>2245379
>>2245370
http://www.unz.com/pfrost/archaic-admixture-in-africans/

All humans are mixed species. Nothing to argue about. Oh and fun fact: Africans do have Neanderthal DNA, but for the most part, it's less than 1%. If you're Masaai, Khoisan (their race left for Eurasia and came back 20,000 years ago, bringing Eurasian admixture and Neanderthal blood with them), or any other African population that's slightly mixed with non-African genes, you have at least 2% Neanderthal in you.

>>2245680
French actually

Why are people so triggered that different human groups desire to exercise their right of self-determination?

Should Israel open its borders in order to erase its Jewish heritage, since it's all a construct anyway? Should China? Saudi Arabia? No, because only whites are targeted with this bs.

>>2246587
Israel is a mostly white country, and there are plenty of non-white and non-Jewish people there.

And yes, I'm calling them white, as you Cuckasians are too stupid to realize that you're all apart of the same race.

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>>2246595
>y iz too sdoobid
>you're all apart of the same race
>apart

>>2245374
>Fucking Mesopotamia, you know the first civilization, didn't arise until about 3200 BC...
5000BC*, but they didn't develop cuneiform until ~3000BC. The Minoans were starting around 3500BC, with Linear A appearing ~1000 years later.

>>2246605
*a part

Still, Semites and Europeans are the same race, just in different areas. The only reason they're considered separate is because of their skin color. What really matters is genetic ancestry.

Oh, and quit posting worst girl.

>>2246587

"Why are people so triggered that I just want to discriminate against others and base my country off ethnicity? Jeez..."

>>2246608
Minoans weren't Greek.

>>2246615
Just so you know, Israel is Jewish ethnostate that requires that you be Jewish to get citizenship.

That doesn't sound diverse like, at all... Don't get me started on Saudi Arabia! So next time you want to protest for diversity with your gay antifa friends, remember to include Israel on your list... Oh no, you can't because that would be anti-Semitism/Islamophobia right?

>>2246638
>Islamophobia
That would be for Saudi Arabia, another hate-filled racists supremacist country! Oh no, I forgot only whites can be that.

I've yet to see an antifa/SJW group protest Israel and not have Schlomo cut their militant allowance money on the next day.

>>2246638
>implying I give a shit about Muslims

>>2246595
Even though Jews are biologically European they're asiatic in character. That's the point of the divide between us and them and more meaningful than exclusively biological conceptions of race.

>>2245289
This doesn't change that white features will disappear due to the inevitable mathematics of uneven population sizes and renewal rates.

>>2245724
T. Muslim
Implying whiteness hasnt been praised since the dawn of time

>>2246780
>uneven population sizes
It doesn't matter if the population of Africa skyrockets to 5 billion. Africa is big enough to fit every single one of them. So long as Europe doesn't let them into their countries they're not going anywhere.

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>>2246638
What are you talking about? The left targets Israel all the time, far more than Saudi Arabia. If you've ever been to any sort of college campus in the west, you should see some form of "free Palestine" or "sanction Israel" bullshit. Not to mention the media and the UN who have a massive anti Israel bias

>>2245289

coincidentally so is agriculture.

>>2245326
1200 BC

>>2246803
the only reason the UN needs to make that many resolutions against Israel is because they actively ignore those resolutions

the one embargo against Russia by itself is more profound than every resolution against Israel ever combined

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WRONG

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>>2246874
Yeah I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that a vast amount of UN members are Muslim countries. Saudi Arabia was elected onto the UN human rights council. And let's not forget about the leftists who donate to the UN who just so happen to have an anti Israel agenda.

>>2245340
Don't try to argue, he's a retarded racist straight out of /pol/. /his/ is a fucking shithole filled with morons who believe the Holocaust didn't happen and that Nazi Germany was the greatest place ever.

>>2245372
this white devil doesnt even know

>>2246915
Of course Europeans during the times of romans had light skin. Sources even describe them as such.

>>2246924
Fuck off /pol/

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>>2245289

>find leftist

>"we are all africans! race is a social construct"

>"ok, so colonizing africa wasnt even that bad. It was just africans returning to their home"

what will his answer be?

>>2246415
They'd probably die, unless they learned the ways of the land from the Inuit.

To make mutant babies, you first need to survive long enough to breed and enough tries for a useful mutation to occur.

>>2246901
I unironically like Soros.

>>2246953
He'd probably say slavery sucks even if your master is the same color as you.

So isn't this really about Neanderthals and shit?
All the different hominids doing their thing and mixing it up?

>>2247013
So Blacks should give each other reparations more than anyone because they enslaved more blacks than anyone else.

>>2246953
Subjecting people isn't right.

>>2247042
Children shouldn't pay for the sins of their parents. None of us are to blame for our ancestors.

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>>2245289
I recognize that text, revisionism and creamy yellow background

WE

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>>2247341
WUZ

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>>2247347
KANGZ

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>>2247355
N SHEIT

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>>2247361
NIGGA

>>2247341
>>2247347
>>2247355
>>2247361
not an argument

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>>2247368
it b lies frum da albino man keepin a brutha away from he history n sheit

>>2247372
this except without the sarcasm

>>2247386
broof?

I know for a fact /his/ has a fair population of afrocentrists so I won't call your bait immediately

wait why would blacks intentionally try to draw attention to the fact they got everywhere first?

All it does is highlight they got hundreds, sometimes thousands of years of an advantage on everyone else and still finished last.

>>2245289
Looks like an Asian dude in blackface. I'm pretty sure they intentionally tried to make him not look like any modern race. Forensic portraits are really inaccurate, they can't reconstruct most soft tissue, so we can't be sure of the exact nose and eye shape.

>>2247393
schools always talk about the rich history of whited killing each other but never touch upon the advancements of african civilization

>>2247394
they believe whites or "albinos" were a warrior race invented by the so-called black man (to use a black israelite term) or Yakub their large headed 'God', that eventually broke free and subjugated the proud melanoid peoples and rewrote their history

>>2247402
what the fuck are you talking about lad
there's either nothing to talk about in regards to SSA bar colonialism assuming you're living in such a country, or you're living in a white country where it is comparatively irrelevant

>>2247394
Well, the first humans in most places were dark skinned but it's ahistorical to call them black, as races in the modern sense didn't really exist yet. Calling the first human black is like calling ancient Germanic tribes Germans.

>>2247416
the exact day d-day happened is more relvant than the wheel?

>>2247439
we don't know who invented the wheel, we don't know where it was invented, how it was invented, what its immediate effects were etc etc

the closer we get to the modern day the more information we have about the event and as a result there's more education to be found in it

and the truth is the part few hundred years, africa wasn't a particularly relevant continent

>>2247458
but schools dont only teach info in the past few hundred years.
greece, rome, Egypt, ancient india, ancient china, and Mesopotamia are all studied as well

>>2247439
that's more of a 'problem' with school history class curriculums in that they can't teach children every minutiae of history that had a distinct impact in the long run
mine certainly didn't touch on the indo-european migrations either for instance

what do you expect?

>>2247416
Why are you blacks so fucking retarded? The level of science needed to engineer artificial humans is far above even our modern world yet you think European hunter gatherers could beat a black civilization with that level of technology.Holy fuck you blacks are stupid beyond comprehension.

>>2247507
I'm not black

>>2247507
the blacks are peaceful people and were not prepared for european savagery

It is called evolution

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>>2247398
The nose is relevant. One of the biggest lines between Europeans and Blacks.

Pic related. Blacks with Albinism. They manage to look nothing like Europeans even with light skin.

>>2247416
>Yakub
>the core membership was estimated to be between 20,000 and 50,000.[1]
So barely any

Yakub

>>2247659
only the core?

what the fuck that's way too many

>>2247667
Wikipedia said core, the actual article just said members. Plus the article was written ten years ago.

>>2245370
great troll

>>2246928
lol tier 4 bait

>>2245289
Anthropology is neither History, nor a Humanity.
Reported

Enjoy your ban race-baiter :3

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>>2247517
>the blacks are peaceful people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8azfWjtkuI

>>2248906
exactly, this is the result of evil european interferance in africa
look at isolated tribes such as the juhoansi to see africans in their natural state
vikings to see europeans in their natural state

>>2246630
yet you people act like it's okay when black supremacists do it, you SJWs are such hypocrites

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>>2245289
>niggers are more than 36000 years behind us

>>2245303
>>2249329

>>2245289
This thread gets a sage from me

>>2245326
WE WUZ PHILOSOPHERS N SHEIT

>>2247042
They do

Ghana gives free citizenship to Africans in the Americans and free education

And all the ancestors of slave masters in the area apologized

>>2249731
That's one country. What about the rest?

>>2245724
>I literally have no idea what I'm even talking about.

>>2249731
>Trying to trick us back into africa.
Whitey buying us was the best thing possible.

Doesn't this literally mean that the ancient greeks and romans were black skinned?

>>2250583
>8000 years old

>>2246415
As well as smaller noses, among other things.