name a greater man (napoleon is his equal, not greater)

>>2219684
Alexander the Great

>>2219684
I'll let the Germans handle this one. Repeatedly. And at great, great length.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeXG9-wyzw0

>>2219684

Kirk Johnson. Hell, he probably wouldn't even feel it from Caesar.

>>2219728
Wait what is this shit this is even worse than the real thing

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEUrp2V4ss

>>2219705
>>2219728
Both dullard brutes.
Caesar was an intellectual, a gentleman...

>>2219684
Augustus Caesar

>>2219740
Yet another failing. Can be propped up there with the lack of ambition.

Milosevic Hussein Gaddafi

>>2219757
What a mess.

>>2219735

Literally who?

>>2219740
When Caesar traveled to Spain, he found a statue of Alexander. Upon seeing it, he wept, because he knew he could never live up to Alexander's legacy.

>>2219763
And in chronological order

>>2219771
To be fair, it's really Augustus' fault that he did.

Charles Martel

You literally cannot debate this

>>2219856

Not OP, but I'd certainly debate it. Martel's role, especially that of the battle of Tours, is enormously overblown.

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Greatest man in Africa, and Africa is bigger than Europe, chekmate

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>>2219767
>Who.jgp
>Wikipedia
>"If you mean the former erotic star, see Goatse.cx"

"Wouldn't even feel it from Caesar"

>>2219771
>Emperor title named after you for 2000 years
>never live up to Alexander's legacy

No, Alexander is the inferior one here

>>2219740

How was Alexander a dullard brute? Dude was taught by Aristotle himself.

>>2220138

Alexander founded 70 cities in his name, some of them still great cities.

>>2219705
>inherited dad's elite army
>inherited a stable kingdom
>installed shitty satraps who destroyed his empire after his death

BONAPARTE

>>2220147
And how many royal titles are named after Caesar?
How many are named after Alexander?

>>2219741
I'd say this is probably the only correct answer. Napoleon is debatable.

>>2219771
> he wept, because he knew he could never live up to Alexander's legacy.
I thought it was because he was ashamed that he has achieved (relatively) so little compared to alexander at his death

>>2219684
Charles V

Ramesses the Great

>>2219684
Crassus... the guy without who, your guy would've been a poor shitshoveler

>>2220314

Who wept at who's statue? Be honest, Octavian used that title to seem more legitimate and it just stuck.

>>2219771
I'm pretty sure that was early in Caesar's career. He was 17 or 18 and he was weeping because at the age of 17/18 Alexander has already accomplished many great things.

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>>2219684
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

Would we really give a shit about Caesar if Augustus didn't win?

>>2220381
Probably, because very likely even then would Mark Anthony honour him.

>>2220381

Yes, Mark Antony loved Caesar.

It was only because Octavian (not my Caesar) and him had arguments over Caesar's will and continued battle for who was the true successor that Mark Antony is painted in a pretty unfavorable light.

Sure, he was a drunkard but at least he was a somewhat capable military commander while Octavian himself was just outright terrible. If Augustus didn't have Agrippa, he would have been completely out of his depth and never have come anywhere near the level of prestige he gained. This much was evident even during the 2nd Triumvirate. During this time Mark Antony made fun of Octavian's poor military command, and weak constitution.

In short, no Agrippa, no Augustus. No Tiberius, no Germanicus.

Barrack Obama

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>>2219684
The greatest man.

Chingis Khan

>>2219741
octavian claimed he was 5' 7" and was therefore really like 5' 5"

turbomanlets CANNOT be great
>>2219684
timur did more with less

>>2221916

What? No. Caesar had far fewer troops at his disposal. Further, Timur's armies were primarily composed of cavalry. Chingis did more with less than Timur did.

>>2221960
i meant in terms of starting position
>Caesar had far fewer troops at his disposal.
he also fought bumfuck gauls and germans so idc

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Greatest man and greatest woman.

>>2221533
>Access to power because of his birth
>Never took a bath in his entire life
>Didn't care after his own people, hundred of thousands died from famine
>another thousands of dead because of numeorus pointless wars
>destabilized Europe and ruined France, leading to the french revolution 70 years after his death
>Built Versaille, worst shithole in entire europe, where people were dirty and busy pissing and shiting everywhere
>Ruled like a tyran
>Muh sun king, muh greatest man

>>2219684
Kim Il-Sung

>>2221999
>glorified
>cheerleader

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>>2219684
>napoleon is his equal
hmm

>>2221999
This, these are people whose real lives would seem unrealistic and over the top if they were fiction.

>>2219684
Ashoka the Greater

Genghis Khan

>>2220330
Not even the greatest in his country's history

>>2222003
fucking manlet

>>2220381
Yep. Even before augustus won people loved ceaser. There was even a cult for ceaser.

>>2222036
>Ney best the dog shit out of him repeatedly
>The Prussians had to save him at Waterloo

Possibly the only person more overrated than Napoleon.

Caesar is pretty great, but Napoleon is greater than Caesar in every way though. Much more impressive rise, better general, better leader and reformer.

Tsao Tsao

I'd put Hitler if he had died in the beginning of 1939, but you either die a great man or you live long enough to see yourself do increasingly retarded things.

>>2222137
Literally Chink version of Caesar

>famous poet/writer of his time
>slept with wife of enemies
>died before becomes Emperor, got honoured/deitified by successor

>>2220303
Stable kingdom my ass, Alexander had to suffocate a rebwllion shortly after his coronation.
Elite army?? asspull

>>2222170
>elite army
>Asspull

Nigger what? Philip II developed the macedonian phalanx, all of Alexander's generals were Philip's, and the training was what Philip established.

Philip gifted him one of the best armies in the world.

Rodigo Diaz de Vivar
Hernan Cortés
Francisco Pizarro
Frederick the great
Adolf Hitler
Donald Trump

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Any petty tyrant can seize power, but it takes a truly great man to set power aside.

>>2219684
Cyrus the Great

>>2222111

To this day though?

>>2220379
LOL comparing a british tool to titans of history

>>2219705
>Great
>not Greater
Czechm8

>>2219692
>legions
>punic wars