What happened to the Celts?

>>2218267
The same thing that happens to most underclasses. Cultural assimilation into the dominant Cultural groups.

>>2218267
They got BTFO'd by the Romans

>>2218273
>celts
>underclass

but we wuz wealthy n shiet, everyone cummin 2 us for gibs cuz we gots all da gold

in all seriousness though, its true

>>2218307
Gold means nothing when you have zero fighting ability.

Literally genocided by Anglos.

>>2218307
Probably means that the Celts became an underclass after conquest and were subsequently culturally enriched by Romans and Germans, to the point where Celtic custom and language died out.

>>2218326

thats only the britons mainly in (what is now) england. And there was no genocide there

English, as in "Alfred the Great" kind of English is a thoroughly Germanic culture, but somehow they have always been different from their kin on the continent
I have had a theory that it is the vestigial Celtic influence
whether genetic or cultural

>>2218454

how are they different

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>>2218454
Bit of both I'd imagine.

>>2218454
nice """theory""" having clearly not read a fucking book

anglo-saxons culturally assimilated celts in england with some debatable genetic admixture

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>>2218513
The Irish converted many of them.

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>>2218504
Well it's hard to put it to words but I believe their early adoption of Christianity had something to do with it. After all, the Anglo-Saxons converted many Germanics.

>>2218267
They became romans
They wuz even senators n shieeet

>>2218267

Couldn't reunify.

>>2218267
Poof!

>>2218548
I don't think they adopted Christianity particularly early, and there were many Germanic peoples that were Christian before them, like the Franks, Lombards, Vandals, and Goths.

>>2218267
They never existed

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>>2218683
They were non-Trinitarian though.

>>2218513

I still suspect the Anglo Saxons largely displaced of subsumed the Britons. The population of sub roman Britain was probably pretty low, it wouldn't have been hard for them to quickly outnumber the natives and then either physically drive them out or absorb them through breeding.

There was probably a combination of both; brutalise the population to break their society and the survivors quickly develop stockholm syndrome.

>>2218326
>Anglos
you mean Romans?

>>2218767
Like there's a big difference.

"Celts" are a really broad group, right? I mean, did they all look similar? When I think of Celts I picture a redheads, checkered pants or kilts, bagpipes and such, but were the Iberian Celts or the Italian Celts or the Galatians similar in any way to the Gauls or today's settlers of the British Isles?

>>2218841
>settlers

Britain and Ireland adopted Celtic culture but weren't colonised by Celts. Celts were mostly of Nordic and Mesolithic racial stock, but Iberian Celts would have been more Anatolian in racial character.

>>2218894
>>Britain and Ireland adopted Celtic culture but weren't colonised by Celts
Proofs?

>>2218900

Genetics.

>>2218907
Go on.

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>>2218839
Big time.

>>2218894
I mean, when the Romans colonized Britain, weren't all the local tribes Celtic? Weren't Celts the main ethnic group of the island until the arrival of Anglo-Saxons and later Normans?

>>2218922
Celtic culture spread to the isles by traders and a few migrants

The neolithic British said "wow, these blokes are proper lads! wealthy too!" and started acting like them

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So if there was no Celtic migration all this steppe ancestry in Britain came from Anglo-Saxons and vikings?

The Celts (at least the Irish) were actually a pretty big deal again from the 5th century until the 13th.

You can find all sorts of hilarious anecdotes about the Irish all over Europe during that time. Like the Irish presence at the Frankish court, the theological debates involving the Irish in central Europe, it's all great to read about even if you aren't Irish.

>>2218978
huh I always thought the British Isles where the last Celtic stronghold
Whomever were living there just adoted their language and culture? with no genetic influence?

>>2218986
...reading comprehension is your friend

>>2219054
Explain

>>2219056
Nobody claims that no celts married into British populations

>>2219036

Not "no" genetic influence, the traders who came also made babby with the native girls, and there was small-scale, sporadic colonisations, such as the Parisi tribe who settled in Northern Britain, and the Belgae who invaded southern England in the century before the Romans.

>>2218986

English, the Norse, the various Romano-Yamnayans, and the Celts between them are the green portion. Also, mitochondrial dna is very much of mesolithic, suggesting that even the neolithic farmers did more interbreeding than colonising.

>>2219089
Ireland is like 90% R1b

It's more like the Celts killed/enslaved all the men and made babies with the native girls.

>>2218894
>Celts were mostly of Nordic and Mesolithic racial stock, but Iberian Celts would have been more Anatolian in racial character
>Britain and Ireland adopted Celtic culture but weren't colonised by Celts

colonized

like your downie mom

Well, they're still there. Culturally, only a few places are still "Celtic", but genetically, the people changed little from the time of the Celtic tribes.

Most French people are just Gauls with a bit of Roman or Germanic blood, a language descended from Latin with Celtic and Germanic influences, and a culture descended from Gallo-Franko-Roman culture.

A people can't really "disappear" just like that (unless they are actively genocided, or following extreme depopulation or migration because of war). The Germanic migrations past the Rhine, for example, didn't suddenly turn the people into Germanics, especially since these waves of migrations were at most a few thousands of people.

>>2219262
>colonized

Not a typo, an accepted variant spelling. Like your Downie mom.

>>2218267

After they got BTFO'd by Rome they assimilated in mainland Europe aside from the Bretons in Brittany. Then they got BTFO'd by the Angle-Saxon-Jute migration and that's more or less how we got to where we are today.

>>2218779
Sorry man. You're wrong. Tens of thousands of migrants can't swamp a population of 2 million. Genocide is a modern idea.

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>>2219310
MOST FRENCH ARE FRANKS

GERMANS WERE MERELY OUR SERFS


PIC RELATED IS THE FRENCH NOBILITTY AND FRENCH SERFS

DO YOU NOTICE SOMETHING ?

BLOND HAIRED GERMANICS WERE OUR SLAVES

FRANKS-FRENCH ARE BLACK-BROWN HAIRED TROJAN WHO ENSLAVED THE GERMANIGGERS

same thing that happened to the punics and the etruscans and the venetics and the illyrians and the thracians and the paleosardinians and the paleosicilians and the iberians and the tartessians

the greeks were spared from this fate b/c language of culture and learning bitch

btw rome was the death knell for every pre indo european language in Europe save for basque

>>2219799

Franks are Germanic.

>>2219934
Objective truth

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>>2219934
>The origin of the Franks is due to these events. They had Priam as their first king. It is writtenin books of history how afterwards they had Frigas as king. After this, they divided into two parts. One part went to Macedonia and they are called Macedonians after the people by whom they were received and the region of Macedonia. They had been invited to give assistance to the Macedonians, who were being overwhelmed by neighbouring peoples. Afterwards when united with that people, they gave birth to a great many offspring and from that stock the Macedonians were made into the strongest of fighters. In the future, in the days of King Phyliphy [Philip] and his son Alexander, report confirms what kind of courage they possessed. For the other part, which advanced from Frigia [Phrygia], had been deceived by the fraud of Olexo [Ulysses] and, though not taken captive, had nevertheless been cast out from there. Wandering through many regions with their wives and children they chose from amongst themselves a king by the name of Francio; from him they are called Franks. Francio, it is said, was very strong in war, and for a long time fought with a great many peoples, but in the end, after devastating part of Asia, he entered Europe and settled between the Rhine or the Danube and the sea.
Fredegar, History of the Franks, II, 4-5
Our ancestors are glorious black and brown haired Trojans, just like us,
they aren't lowly blond haired Germanic serfs

>>2219799
French nobility = romano-frankish
serfs = gallo-frankish

Were there any differences between Celts and Germanics?

>>2220043
French-Trojans = Nobility = Dark haired
Celto-Germanics = Serfs = Blond haired


>romans
No such thing

They were killed after the conquest of Syagrius kingdom

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>>2219405

Carthago Delenda Est?

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They live inside of us

>>2219405
>Genocide is a modern idea

But conquest isn't. Tens of thousands of migrants/invaders, given a sufficient technological or strategic advantage, can decisively defeat a native population numbering in the millions (see: The Americas, especially South America, as well as the Mongol empire).

I still agree with you that the Anglo Saxons didn't totally displace the native British. They did, however, still left a noticeable mark; a not-insignificant portion of Brits, especially in the South East, are both culturally and genetically descended from the Saxons and other Germanic conquerors.

https://www.quora.com/Are-English-people-really-Anglo-Saxon

>>2220978
*still leave