In all of history, what country would objectively be the protagonist ?

>>2212986
India probably

>>2212986
Eternal Anglo

The jews like to make themselves protagonists since a long time so their case is one that is already worked out.

>>2212986
Antarctica

>>2212986
China

>>2212986
Britain, Japan and maybe Russia would make good protagonists.

>>2212986
USA, duh

>>2213188
Too young.

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>>2212986
I know who the main villain is.
>>2213188
>History begins at 1776

>>2213197
>tfw history is a shitty anime where the villain keeps coming back from the dead

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India/China

Past 2-3 centuries has been merely fillers

I say the Brits

>>2212986
Greece
>only had an empire once and it dissolved pretty quick
>to my knowledge committed no attrocities
>gave the world democracy, and arguably western values.
>gave the world some of the best western philosophers ever.
>Old as fuck
>Other then the empire part tiny as fuck.
>In recent history never been on the "bad" side of a war

Awful question

>>2212986
Italy and Greece, no doubt, also the Levant/Middle East

>>2212986
Black Egypt

From crowns to chains to civil rights. An epic story

>>2213257
>been irrelevant for 2000 years

>>2212996
This is unfortunately the correct answer.

In reality it's the Germans. Or maybe the Poles.

>>2212986

The answer is clearly Israel.

>>2213397

>irrelevant for 2000 years

Ha ha oh wow.
I bet /lit/ has a better general understanding of history than this shitpile board.

the human race :^)

>>2212986
Vatican City/Catholic Church

>>2212986
Me

Rome, which transfers to their daughter, the Franks, who gets fucked by Norseman to produce a son named Norman.
Norman will claim the hand of the female England, and their child will marry Wales for their son Britain, who'll adopt Ireland and marry Scotland to form Great Britain.
Then, it'll pass onto their rebellious son USA, who'll take the reigns as his father grows older and weaker

>>2212986
U S OF FUKKIN A

>>2212986
I know how stale it is to pull out the jojo meme but what if we make one country/state/empire the protagonist each century or every few centuries?

Like we make a title for each part of history based on how much impact that one country had on it?
For example: Part 1 could be named Roman Blood.

Iraq desu

>Iraq
>India
>China
>Greece
>Italy
>Egypt
These are the only correct answers. Too many people in this thread are neglecting the fact that Britain and Germany have been woefully irrelevant for most of human history.

Iraq:
Lifetime of warfare,the eternal story about that everytime something gets build up it gets torn down again in the most violent way possible, both in terms of material achievments and religion.

>India
Can be anything.

>China
Protoganist is awesome and he knows it, operates after a certain set of rules for all eternity broken by fits of destructive rage when some foreigner comes in to introduce something disgustingly new by force.

>Greece
Many happenings and intellectual exercises at first then always being a vassal to something fizzling slowly into irrelevance, sad ending.

>Italy
Yeah, thats an interesting one together with india.

>Egypt
See greece.

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>>2213789
India was the only one who wanted to be left alone, never invaded any foreign land except for that one time in the 11th century with Chola occupation of the Srivijiyas in South East Asia.

>>2213814
>wanting to be left alone makes you a protagonist
Kys

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>>2213827
>>2213827
>wanting to be left alone makes you a protagonist
I never said that you cunt, I only said that they never invaded anyone, if that is the category for being a protagonist for you then maybe you should kill your self before asking others to commit it.

>>2213400
>maybe the Poles
why would you say this?
t.Pole

>>2212986
Switzerland.

>>2212996
>>2213181
>>2213188
>>2213237
>All of History
>>2213397
What are the Byzantine Empire, The Balkan Wars and the first allied victory against the axis.
>>2213814
India is one of the best contenders desu

Is that even a question ?

>India or China

The dominant powers for most of human history - spawned and persevered major civilizations, influenced various other nearby civilizations, spawned 4 major world religions in case of India and contributed a shit ton to literature, architecture, mathematics, philosophy, astronomy, science etc and are well on their way again to that position.

Contenders of note would be Italy, Greece, Fertile crescent . While they did contribute a lot in the past they will never be dominant in the future due to lack of population of even the extant civilization that has all been replaced by abrahamic religions.

>>2213789

>>India
>Can be anything.

What did he mean by that ?

>>2214386
>>2214395

"India" and "China" aren't monoliths, they're unified today but haven't been for most of their histories. You might as well answer "Europe".

>>2214449
True of India. Less so of China.

>>2214450

I urge you to make a study of Chinese history. They certainly had longer periods of unification than Europe or India, but they had numerous periods of anarchy and multi-state scenarios.

>>2214481
I didn't say it was untrue of China, simply that it was far more often unified than any other region of the world and an actual thing since Qin Shi Huangdi, unlike India, which only became a thing with the Raj.

Why do people keep saying India? It wasn't united for most of its history

>>2213234
>Chinks get BTFO time after time
>I-its just filler

>>2213443
But England was irrelevant for most of history
Might as well go on with France if you transfer from Romans to Franks

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>>2213197

>History begins at 1776

Damn right

It's unironically Israel.

>>2212986
Faroe Islands

>>2213257
Eastern Roman Empire yo.

>>2212986
GB
Then it becomes America after WW1

Germany 1933-1939

>>2212986
Chinamen or dah joos

I wonder whether the thread understands that "protagonist" is not the same thing as "the good guy". Depending on the (hi)story, the protagonist, the central character who moves the story forward, may actually be a bad guy, morally grey, etc.

>>2212986
Britain

>>2213443
I think you could go earlier than Rome, but I agree with the multiple protagonists idea. History's too long without any protagonists who lasted the whole length of it. It's be better to make it a line of countries, Jojo style. Call it Humanity's Bizarre Adventure or something.

China would almost work for a singular protagonist, but they also didn't interact with a lot of the rest of the world for a while and were usually more inwardly focused. Probably better for a spinoff or as a supporting character.

>>2215444
fertile crescent-bronze age greece-Ancient greece-Hellenistic times-roman empire-byzantines or > > > is the best tech tree route.

>>2215444
Every East Asian country paid tribute to china. Every nomadic group paid tribute to china, around the region. They had trade routes called the silk road which was a global trade route.

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>>2212986
Roman Empire. Sure, they're dead now, but they live on in the aesthetics and governments in nations today. Fascism copied stuff from them, the USA copied stuff from them, several nations tried to say they were the "true successors" to them. It's like the Walking Dead, sure, there's an actual Negan, but even if you kill him theres gonna be dozens of Negan fanboys running around screaming "I am Negan" while bashing in people's faces with baseball bats.

>>2212986
Antarctica

>>2215444
China is the edgy rival character who "works alone" but shows up every now and again because "It's not like I wanted to help you out or anything. I just happened to be passing by".

>>2214497
>>2214522
>>2214450

Thing is the requirement to be a unified political entity to be considered a thing is stupid eurocentric history which views a westphalian nation state as the only legitimate entity. By that logic there is no such thing as Greek civilization since there was no united greek entity but different, warring city states each with their own systems..

India and China are protagonists in the sense of being civilizational entities whose latest political incarnation are modern day India and PRC respectively.

Also specifically in case of India - evven though the land itself hosted different political entities/dynasties the people outside it considered it as "India" even back then while the people inside it had the notion of Bharat varsha again back then. That's all that matters.

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>you will never be a /his/ janitor and delete /int/ bait threads

America during the world wars
The USSR and nazi Germany are prime antagonist though

>>2213873
>India,
>One country

Might as well call Europe one country

The usa? Why is this even a question? Even though it has not existed for long, It is more relevant than the British and Roman empires.

>>2218476
What of China/India?

In the last 2000 years, US only had about 10% screen time in Global history

Either China or France

>>2218049
>Might as well call Europe one country

See >>2216730

Btw if Europeans can put aside their differences and function like a single county in the way India does, why not ? Guess they don't have a unifying thread the way Indian civilization acts for India

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>>2212996

This

The answer is obviously England.

France is the antihero and ogasional antagonist

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>>2213197
>>2213221

correct

>>2212986
England

France is the main vilain and Germany/HRE/Prussia was France's weak brother that used to side with England against him but gained huge powers and turned to the dark side near the end

Persia is a good choice except for the whole fucking with the Greeks thing which gave them a bad rap.

>>2212986
India

>the first to create religion
>makes at least three or them
>deals with Muslim invaders
>deals with Christian invaders
>becomes a world superpower by 2020

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>>2218633

>India
>Not even a state until 1947

>>2213188
>>2213458
>>2214654
>>2214891
>>2218036

Yeah, no.

>>2218653
When will you return the crown jewel of India?

>>2212986
China and Italy are both the protagonists. The show starts with the episodes switching in between viewpoints.

Republic of Moldova

Unironically Britain.

>Was the last man standing against both France and Germany in the Napoleonic wars and WW2.
>far more humanitarian than other empires
>generally fights an uphill battle
>Never been on the 'bad guy's' side
>Often seen as an outlier, not very European

France is the Antagonist. then it's germany, then Russia.

>>2218665

You know what a person who gifts something to someone and then later demands it back is called?

AN INDIAN GIVER

>>2215282
Villains of history

>>2218673
>>Never been on the 'bad guy's' side
uw0tm8

>>Often seen as an outlier, not very European
By their modern self-portrayal, at best. But besides them, nobody thinks so.

>>2218673
i see that your British education is working quite well

>>2218698

The British Empire did nothing wrong. Also the Americans were the bad guys, rebelling against England, which had just pushed itself to the limit to defend the colonies from French conquest and then secured the entire continent, for no good reason except that a bunch of effete upper class twats were high on meme ideas like 'inalienable rights'.

>>2218679
>stolen
Fixed

>>2213437
This is the clear answer

>>2218698
>By their modern self-portrayal, at best. But besides them, nobody thinks so.

Napoleon didn't see them as Europeans. They were also isolationist and didn't really get involved in euro affairs in the 19th century.

>>2218742
I'm glad Nappy is the end-all be-all of who decides if a European country is actually European.

>>2218757
>Often seen as
>Actually were
Nice reading comprehension.

The French.
They were born of royalty, dealt with the rise and fall of kingdoms, toyed with empire herself, and finally emerged through tumultuous strife to inspire the entire world and become the light of civilization.

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>>2218658

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, WHAT WAS THAT?

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>>2212986
The one that fights powerful antagonist throughout all of the series

>>2218801
HAHAHAHAHAHA

France/Francia after the fall of west Rome

>>2218811
t. Cucked anglo

>>2212996
this desu

>>2218831
name one French accomplishment

>>2218673
>Was the last man standing against both France and Germany in the Napoleonic wars and WW2.

Nope, you were the last woman hiding
Russia was the last man standing

>>2213418
>>2213418
Only sane posts

>>2218882
Civilization

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>>2218882
English language

>>2218935
epic XD

It's not like Britain was fighting in the peninsular war or north africa or burma or anything like that XD

>>2219304
>north africa
>burma
Yea it's exactly the places were big boys fight

>>2214534
Pretty much.

Because when you say "time after time", you MEAN "timer after time". They rise, stagnate, and shit themselves to pieces. And then they rise.

>>2219425
>
Where else were they supposed to fight, retard?

>>2212986
>People in this thread actually believe the shit they say

>>2214449
You're fucking retarded. India and China had national identities in the first century while any effort at Pan-Europeanism has been a meme

>>2218882
Liberté, égalité, fraternité.

>>2218653
WHEN WILL THIS EUROFAG MEME END REEEEEEE

Being a westphalian nation state based on ethnicity is not a requirement to be considered as an entity that influenced world history,

With that logic greek civilization never existed and EUROFAGS BTFO

>>2214395
Poo is very malleable

>>2212986
With the exception of the British Raj period, probably India as the neutral narrator

>>2218673
>the world is 200 years old

>>2213188
USA is the equivalent of every shounen protag

happy go lucky on the outside with some hidden sealed dark power

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>>2215444
>Humanity's Bizarre Adventure
that's good

>>2213195
that's exactly why, he's a young upstart underdog hero

>>2212986
America.

>>2218882
french fries

China is the antagonist, you fuckos
Deeply troubled and problematic, but extremely powerful nonetheless

The protagonists are Rome, France, Britain and now America

Minors are Germany, Russia and India, as recurring villains or heroes, depending on who you ask

>>2218882
America's independence

>>2218673
>Never been on the 'bad guy's' side

Except when they were the bad guys kek

>>2218882
Inventing America

Jews.
Antiheroes/Antivillains

>>2212986
1st series: Britain at first. Then the protofag's "son", the US, defeats his father when he turns evil.
parallel series: Kievan Rus (father) gets killed by the mongols and GD of Moscow "trains hard" like a shounen MC and then avenges his parents' death. Then he gets corrupted by the realities of life and has an ultimate showdown with the US. Now, turned "good", he leads a life of Birdman-esque despair, schizophrenia and alcoholism.
Everybody else is either antagosists or supporting-role.

Semites

>struggle and persecuted from the beginning to the present
>always played a big role while being a minority
>based in all abrahamic religions, which most of the world follows
>glorified past and present

Didn't say country because that's a stupid ass question, countries are arbitrary and man made

Israel

>>2220592
>The protagonists are Rome, France, Britain and now America

found the cucked anglo scum

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>>2212996
s-seconded

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>>2215444
Please make this a thing

>>2221102
I'm French though

>>2212986
>le heroes and villains meme
Everyone is their own hero, anon.

China

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>>2212986
san marino.

>>2220592
>China is the big bad who did nothing wrong
>random hero of the week wants to weaken china

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>>2218673
>Far more humanitarian than other empires
>Genocide people by the regular
It was damn well efficient and powerful but surely you jest

>>2213827
I DONT WAN ANY TRABBLE

>>2221941
>this meme again

>>2214245
Winning against Italy doesn't coount. Beating Italy in WW2 is like beating the autistic kid in the multiplication test in 1st grade.

>>2219824
In Europe fag

>>2219824
Oh, you know the Eastern Front, where shit actually when down "retard".

>>2222143
Please tell me how British troops were supposed to reach the Eastern Front. They can't go through the Baltic Sea.

Even if they could, that leaves North Africa and Burma weakened. British troops were stretched insanely thin.

>>2222141
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_II)

Season 1: Egypt
Season 2: Rome
Season 3: England
Season 4: Spain
Season 5: England again
Season 6: America

>>2222177
7: You dont get to pick multiples

>>2213257
>only had an empire once and it dissolved pretty quick

I believe that was Macedonia m8. Or did Greece also have an empire at some point?

>>2213789
>Protoganist is awesome and he knows it, operates after a certain set of rules for all eternity broken by fits of destructive rage when some foreigner comes in to introduce something disgustingly new by force.
The episodes when China splits into 3 and more states and fights among himselfs could be interesting.

>>2222177
>Season 0: Egypt (3000 BCE-1500 BCE)
>Season 1: India (1000 BCE - 200 BCE)
>Season 2: Greeco-Roman (500 BCE-500 CE)
>Season 3: China (200 BCE - 1500 CE)
>Season 4: Muslims (700 CE - 1500 CE)
>Season 5: Mongols (1200 CE - 1500 CE)
>Season 6: Europe (1500 CE - 1900 CE)
>Season 7: America (1700 CE - 2000 CE)
>Season 8: China ( 1950 CE - 2100 CE)
>Season 9: World ( 2100 CE - INDEFINITE)

Better line up here.

>>2218476
Because it's contribution to the story is too small.

>>2218806
So, Poland?

>>2222222

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>>2222228
>Season 1: India (1000 BCE - 200 BCE)
>Completely ignores the Rise of Northern and Southern nations after Mauryans
>Ignored the Gupta period which laied the foundations of modern indian culture
>Ignored the vast strides in culture, trade, economics and sciences of south india during the 7th to 12th century AD.

China, as much as I hate to say it. Fucking squinty eyes and small penises creatures.

>>2222177
>>2222228
These are pretty coherent.

>>2222228
China has been in recession for decades and civil war is always a possibility.

>>2223678
Why

Because they make the rest of the world shit? They only thrive because of western consumerism.

>>2213188
This tbqh. We even act like the national equivalent of Ash Ketchum.

The answer is literally the Jewish people.

It has to be Germany. No, I'm not being a modern history tard here but throughout germanic history it has been a protaginist.

>>2213188
>It's a "story takes place after all the cool shit have already happen and we hear old people talk tales about it" episode

>>2213181
Britain enslaved and conquered people Winston Churchill openly discussed Anglo-Saxon Superiority
Japan did the whole massacre of Nanking

>>2218673
Why does nobody want to be part of Brit/Engl/an/d then?

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>>2213234
>Out of all colors, they make India brown

>>2212986
My country

>>2212986
What is a country?
No country has existed for "all of history".

>>2218718
THERE IS PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF WINSTON CHURCHILL BEGGING FDR TO HELP HIM LIKE A BITCH, THE RUSSIANS KILLED MORE GERMANS THAN ANYONE, BE HAPPY THAT YOUR ANTIQUATED, CHILD MOLESTING NATION IS STILL SUCKLING ON AMERICAS TEET

>>2212986
England if you want quantity.

France if you want quality.

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>>2213257
>to my knowledge committed no attrocities

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>>2214654
>>2214654

>>2213188
Tbqh it's England but USA is the main character in the sequel.

>>2212986
Probably France.

They've never been irrelevant at any point in history.

The antagonist would probably be the UK, with the U.S. as his second in command.

>>2213437
The story starts with Rome being young, beating enemies all around the world and siring lots of children from his beaten enemies (female).
Then, after beating an old wizard (Judah) he discover a new source of power (Christianesim). Being greedy and careless, he takes it for himself. This power makes him feel great at first, but it starts consuming him from inside, slowly corrupting his mind. Abandoned by his children and allies, he grows old and mad (Papal States), he gets confined in his old fortress by a party of adventurers (G*rmanic invaders), who then put a warden (Lombards) to keep him from escaping. However, he still retains enough of his consciousness and lust for power, and starts affecting the mind of his warden (Lombards switch from Arianism to Catholicism).
After one of his grandchildren (Franks) comes to free him from his jailors, he finally has enough power to make his comeback into the world, not as an actual ruler but as a puppetmaster, subtetely affecting the minds of the new protagonists

>>2227019
Well the Catholics where winners not like those pussy german arifags, what have the aryans done for us huh? Do you know how many towel heads they've killed and oppressed? You should be thankful you beta

>>2227093
what the hell are you on about?

>>2212986
The one you focus on

>>2212986
Canada, without a doubt.

>>2227569
Too young, leaf.

>>2214187
This, founded 1291 and still standing.

>>2213437
Deus fucking vult

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>>2222251
Sure if your perspective on history is that it's a gang rape doujin

The Ottoman Empire.

>>2227905
Only if you decide to look at it's later moments. Because Poland had tendency to win against unfavourable odds several times.

Any answer other than the Jews is wrong simply because the Jews are the only group that has survived as such throughout most of history. Jews are the protagonists of humanity.

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>>2212986
1/The Tao Te Ching
2/Compare all available translations
3/????
4/Profit

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>>2212986
I don't know about country, but the Mediterranean people would most definitely be the fucking gods of the Human story.

In Europe, everything starts with them...

From the Greco/Helens, fore fronting modern philosophy, the Romans, The Holy Roman Empire and crowning Charlemagne, Roman Empire influencing barbarian pee colored hair niggers, the Renaissance, starting the exploration age, the start of Classical music with Opera/Ballet, rejecting Hitler from art school.

Nord smelly barbarian faggots need to stop feeling self entitled.

>>2218959
>>2213418
>History begins in 1948

Germany to be honest.
I mean we've got a pretty good story arch if you ask me... Many attempts and failures at a country. And then the world wars.

>>2220119
but greek mostly had one culture. Different states but the same language, for example.

>>2212986
Western civilization. 1st season has Greece as the protagonist, 2nd Rome and all the later seasons would have an ensemble cast

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>>2216173
Why are asshole Chinese such an enjoyable trope? Is it because it's true to life?

>>2228940
>Ancient Egypt
>Phoenicians
>Ancient Greece
>Roman Empire
>Holy Roman Empire (eventually spread north)
>Byzantine Empire
>Umayyad Caliphate
>Abbasid Caliphate
>Spanish Empire
>Ottoman Empire
>Renaissance Italy
>French Empire

Mediterranean confirmed for protagonist

>>2212996
/thread

>>2212986
France or Britain

>>2212986
Ethiopia

hands down

>>2212986
China and Egypt. They have been around for quite sometime

It's obviously France, and it's a complete Mary Sue protagonist too.

Of course it "only" covers about 1500 years of history, but there's no country that covers a longer range while still existing today, and considering the dominance of Western civilisation non-Western countries couldn't really be considered anyway.

>>2231502
Although if you add France's origin story that makes for another 1000 years.

>>2226998
Nah there have been many antagonists, Austria was a pretty major one for instance. Britain would probably be the most iconic one though, except then Germany shows up and makes Britain look like a good guy, and so the two temporarily ally to defeat this incarnation of evil.

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>>2229395
Just imagine how dank this world could have been...

>>2231539
>miniature mediterraneans everywhere
how? why? that would freak me out, kind of like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIDvgJWWq70

>>2213175
Seconded