Why did he choose the wrong side?

>>2191762

Because his primary loyalty was to the state of his birth, not of the union of states.

He was anti-slavery, but he was still loyal to the south.

>>2191762
Who cares, Grant was a better general

>>2191762
Because he was a good Virginian

>>2191762
In the words of his relative

>MY NAME IS RICHARD HENRY LEE, VIR GIN E UH IS MY HOMMMME

>>2191788
>Grant was a better general
kek

>>2191780
He had the upper ground though

Lee is literally given god-man status in almost three quarters of the country, far exceeding the 11 states of the old Confederacy. Grant won a war and went on to be President, but is barely remembered, even by Northerners.

I'd say Lee chose the right side.

Back during that era, the state was often considered more important than the nation. At least, this was the way of thinking in the South, where the state's had strong identities. It doesn't help that Southern culture and Northern culture were two sides of the same coin, which caused people that'd normally side morally with the Northern cause, to side with the Southern cause because that's the people they identified with.

People forget the US is basically a federation of states. National identity is MUCH stronger today than it was back then. State identity, and even specific county identities, often outweighed that of the National identity.

>>2193473
t.tactician

>>2191787
>He was anti-slavery

Literally captured free men and sold them intonslavery.

>>2193859
America would be better if state pride was stronger than it is today.

>>2194228

It'd be a weaker country. Any country with strong regionalism is doomed to infighting e.g. Italy, South Korea until the 70's

>>2194238
Yeah, we're such a strong, unified country now with monoculture and a massive federal government that everyone either hates, suspicious of, or feels as if it doesn't represent them.

Voluntarism is a virtue.

>>2194254

And yet America is still the most powerful country on Earth. Something unimaginable without a strong federal government.

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>>2194256
>America is still the most powerful country on Earth.

>>2193473
Who won the war again?

>>2194275
Well it sure isn't China, so who else is there?

>>2194276
poor argument for individual commanders
the north's far superior industrial capacity and larger population surely had more to do with them winning.

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>>2194283

>>2194283
Certainly not the Russians

>>2194284
The South had the advantage of fighting defensively on their own territory. To understand how immensely significant this is, see Vietnam

>>2194293
Right, their economy has gone to shit

>>2194308
That's what happens when you rely entirely on some meme resource like oil.

>>2194302
this. Lee's offensive into the north was a disaster.

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>>2194302
>Comparing territorial advantage in a civil war to an overseas conflict

>>2194302
The North Vietnamese got fucking shrekt in every single head to head engagement with the Americans though. The Americans also could not actually attack the North Vietnamese where it mattered.
Poor comparison.

>>2191788
Grant was the closest thing America has ever gotten to Georgy Zhukov. All he did was throw lines of Union infantry at the Confederates until he bled their army dry. Totally overrated general imo.

>>2194302

This is the single dumbest post that I can recall having ever read in my time on /his/.

>>2194482

Oh come on, there are WAY dumber posts. There's the one about how the Polynesian expansion happened because the ice age made land bridges between the islands, since they obviously couldn't have sailed out of sight of land.

>>2194256
Except we survived a hell of a lot before we had anything resembling a strong federal government. Stop being a faggot.

>>2194402

Any time you hear about a side losing to "human waves", rest assured that source is absolutely full of shit.

>>2194276
Sherman

he realized which was the greater evil

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>>2194675
Can't squirm the Sherm