were they right?

>>2191475
always

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>no crusades
>no arms race
>europe gets conquered by turks and mongols
>no renaissance
>no industrial revolution
>skip to 2016
>people are living in filth and praying sharia

>>2191475
Well they started off trying to protect innocent pilgrims, I see nothing wrong with that.

It later become a parody of that which was of course also caused by constant Muslim aggression.

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>>2191800
When will the "the crusaders saved muh europe from muslims" meme ever end?

All the crusades but the fourth one failed

If the muslims or mongols wanted to conquer europe they would and there is nothing that the Deus Vultures could do about it

>>2191947
>all crusades but the fourth one failed

TIL Crusades 1 and 2 were failures for the Europeans

>>2191947
1) Muslims fighting in the middle East are not fighting in Europe
2) The first crusade was an objective success
3) The caliphs couldn't "invade Europe any time they wanted", because they would face the same problems with force projection that the crusaders did

>>2191800
>europe gets conquered by turks and mongols
That had nothing to do with crusaders though.

>>2191989
>>2191947
Kek
The crusades militarized europe and is what forced them to start being better at war. Europe would've been fucked in all holes by the stronger militant muzzies if warbands of holy knights weren't guarding the borders.

>>2192055

"e-even if we lost we still get muh experience so thats good"

>>2191947
The first one was a success. 80000 muzzies got slaughtered in one day.

>>2191947
No the Muslims couldn't conquer Europe if they wanted to because big Boi mongols just took a fat steamy shot on baghdad.

At the time of the First Crusade, the populations of Asia Minor, Syria, and Palestine, though ruled by Muslims, were still overwhelmingly Christian. The “Crusading” campaigns of the Western Christian armies were justi ed at the time as a war liberating the Eastern Christians, whose population, lands, and culture had been devastated by centuries of jihad and dhimmitude.

>>2191475
responding to ages of muslim agression, execution maybe wasn't perfect but the war certainly is justified.

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Theoretically, would anything of note actually happen today if the Pope suddenly came out publicly in favor of/calling for a new Crusade? To protect Christians in the Middle East or Africa or something.

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>>2193257
There are a billion Catholics in the world, and another billion other Christians. I reckon a few hundred thousand people would take an armed pilgrimage to the Holy Land.

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>>2191947
>muslims or mongols wanted to conquer europe they would and there is nothing that the Deus Vultures could do about it