Thread for the history of the Germanic group of ethnicities. Saxon, Norse, Goth, doesn't matter.
Religion, kingdoms, migrations, relations, victories and defeats, influence from and on others, arms and armor, arts and crafts, ask questions and I and certainly others will answer.
>>2185990
Aren't Celts Germanic?
>>2186016
lol, no.
it's just krauts that are celto-scandi-slav rapebabies
>>2186018
Well, the English are, like, 70% Celt.
It's just their language that's Germanic.
Or, at least, that's what I heard in some documentary.
>>2186016
Celts are Celts, a separate Indo-European ethnic group
>>2186018
>>2186023
Genealogy =/= Ethnology
Germanics are defined by the various cultural attributes they used to and still do share. The language, religion, art, this is what made them Germanic long before we had any study of y haplogroups.
So if Tiw/Tyr are documented in both the Anglo-Saxon and Norse pantheon, why is Fenrir only in Norse? Fenrir bit off Tyr's hand, isn't he kinda necessary?
I bought this knife for EDC half because the broken-back blade is reminiscent of a seax.
Does this seal the deal on my Germanibooness?
>>2186049
Myths change
Shocker
For instance, Tyr was the king of the gods back in Roman times
>>2186071
So Fenrir was a later development?
Was Fenrir documented in any other West or East Germanic ethnicities, Franks and Goths and such?
charlie mange
>>2186078
karl grosse!
>>2186132
Read Tacitus.
>>2185990
I'd be hesitant about calling Germanic an ethnicity instead of just a linguistic group. It'd be like postulating a Romance ethnicity or an Indo-Iranian one. And while people do use Slav as a catch-all term, most of the time it's implied to mean only the East Slavs and maybe also the Poles. Celtic analogously usually refers to the Irish and sometimes Welsh foremost, though it does see some use as a term for all the Celtic peoples simply because how few people even speak Celtic languages today.
Am also curious why Bavarian is listed as a separate ethnicity here.
>>2185990
If Lowland Scots are germanic then so will be the coast of Northern Ireland, also lowlanders colonised the east coast of the highlands.
>>2186132
wayland the smith was probably a god
>>2186945
Well there's various the Germanic group of ethnicities. Not that Germanic by its lonesome is an ethnicity, but that there are various ethnic groups that can trace their ethnic lineage back to the Proto-Germanics.
Take >>2186964 for instance. We call Lowlanders Germanic because they speak Scots, an Anglic Germanic language, and have their ethnic origins in the northern Anglo Saxon kingdoms like Northumbria. We don't say "well some Anglo Saxons came and might have screwed some Celtic women. Despite those offspring taking absolutely nothing from their Celtic mothers in terms of culture or identity, we'll call them Celtic because their X chromosome came from someone who spoke Gaelic."
It's like saying Indo-European isn't an ethnic group, it is, it's just more varied.
>>2186968
I understood him to be just a "hero" mortal important guy.