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Cathars-- medieval SJW?

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I'm traveling in Toulouse and reading up on its history in regards to the cathars and my dear god, do they sound like medieval SJWs.

>They believed that genders weren't real
>they thought penis in vagina was oppressive
>the real world is a lie, it's your feelings that matter
>achieving anything in the real world is a sin because it's just the devils illusion
>reincarnation is constant therefore everyone is an otherkin

And this was in fucking 1200! If the papacy hadn't exterminated every last one of them in the fourth crusade how fucking crazy would Occitania be in 2016? They would make Sweden seem like /pol/ in comparison!
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>>2183856
The wise Mother Church rightfully cleansed the Earth of that abominable sect.
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>>2183856
Tfw the Albigensian Crusade actually happened

It feels good
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yeah because a secret society of murderous little boy fuckers who control the world is so much better
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>>2183904
Are you talking about the Freemasonry?
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>>2183904
>RCC
>secret society
Kys
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>>2183856
They believed spirits were genderless, because they are formless and immaterial. Therefore reproductive parts don't exist upon them. In the material world, they believed that you had to be reincarnated as a man first if you wanted to break free upon death.

The real world isn't a lie. Its a material construct of the Demiurge to trap the divine immaterial essence within, thus removing it from God, which is the sum total of all immaterial formlessness.

Achievements made in life aren't evil if they strive to bring one closer to knowledge and God. Only things that propagate more material things are evil.

Reincarnation happens because the divine essence is trapped in the material prisons until it can be enlightened enough to escape and return to the formless immaterium that is God
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>>2183931
Spotted the cathar
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>>2183856
They still believed women were inferior. Some Cathars thought women couldn't leave the material realm and must be reborn as men to do so.

Otherwise this parallel is bullshit. Cathars were a hard core cult who organized effectively and took their teaching seriously while sjws are just whiny brats. The closest parallels to Cathars would be modern apocalyptic cults, the sorts that commit mass suicides because they believe that Aliens are going to take their souls to paradise.
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>>2183931
This is more logical than any religion nowadays and you can't disprove it. The dualistic system based on two equally powerful deities with creative abilities acting as polar opposites trying to nullify each other in the the cosmic battle manifesting within each individual's soul is logical, easily comprehensible, hardly falsifiable and overall just well-thought out religious concept. If you actually read up on the cathars, it's really difficult to comprehend how meme cults like mainstream Christianity and >islam
came to dominate the world.
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>>2183931
Legitimately good theology

I'd join them if they were around
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they were good people
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>>2183856
you got it all wrong. they were just a peaceful dualist revival movement and were burned to ashes with their history and beliefs by the catholics. Man, fuck the catholics, self-contradicting pope worshiping monoist cunts. Hope you not a catholic, OP
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>>2183958
>it's really difficult to comprehend how meme cults like mainstream Christianity and >islam came to dominate the world.

It's because due to their belief in the evil material world, the Cathars didn't believe in the reproduction and their members solely practiced anal sex instead of vaginal. Therefore they didn't expand in numbers.
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>>2183964
It is Gnosticism
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Some cathar poetry

My lady Carenza of the lovely body,
please offer sisters your profound advice,
and since you know what's best,
tell us precisely what todo.
You know. Your ways embody
all ways of woman. Please say: shall I wed
someone we know? Or stay a virgin?
I've said that would be good.
But having kids—what for?
To me a marriage seems a painful bore.
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>>2183981
This and
>>2183969

The true red pill is that the brutal survives. Pacifists that mean well and want to help out get murdered by opportunists who are then rewarded with pussy and money.

The good side is that it is also possible to be too brutal (see charles Taylor)
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>>2183994
Lady Carenza, I'd like to have a man,
but what a penance when you have a clan
of brats.
Your tits hang halfway to the ground;
your belly is discomfited and round.
My lady Iselda and my lady Alais,
you have youth, beauty; your skin a fresh color
and you know courtly manners; you have valor
beyond all other women in your place.
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>>2183997
Hear me. And for the best seed from a cod,
marry the crown of knowledge, who is GOD.
And you will bear the fruit in glorious sons,
saving your chastity like married nuns.
My lady Iselda and my lady Alais,
remember me and may my light transcend
all fears.
Please ask the king of glory,
when you enter heaven,
to join us once again.
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>>2183856
Btw Cathars and similar heresies weren't so different from Mendicant orders like the Franciscans. The basic idea is the same: fuck society, reproduction, material wealth and titles, I'm just going to go give up all of that and contemplate on spirituality all day, find inner peace and get my ticket to heaven.

Heretics just took this a step further by completely breaking off the Church structure and adopting strange doctrines. The center of the Cathar movement, the Perfecti were basically a Mendicant order who were followed by a bunch of ordinary folk who really admired them for their piety. Orders like the Franciscans were also very popular with the ordinary peasant btw, small folks really had a thing for ascetic religious leaders (and probably saw the bishop dressed in velvet and gold a hypocrite).
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>>2183856
Yes. And it baffles me that some national socialist writers have taken their hatred of Catholicism so far that they have actually taken the side of cucktharism.
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>>2184005
To be fair on the face of Christian values, they are called to reject the material world and all it deception for the spiritual one and union with God.

So those peasants were not necessarily wrong.
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>Catholicism was so retarded and nonsensical they couldn't even stop a bunch of extremist hippies from spreading all over without heavy persecution and mass killings
Made me ponder
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>>2183980
So peaceful that the crusade started as a reaction to them butchering a bishop.
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>>2183969
There still some around
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>>2184012
Cathars are bro-tier
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>>2184138
If SJWs are your bros...
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>>2184036
>Becomes murdered due to a poltiical dispute with a non Cathar
>It's Cathars fault
Have Catholics developed their own form of taqiyya?
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>>2184005
This
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>>2184175
What if they did? Too cucked to handle it?
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>>2184207
>I got no proof so here's a what if
What if the Vatican invented Islam and used it to destroy the eastern Churches?
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>>2183856
Cathars are gnostic heretics
John 1:14
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>>2184005
>small folks really had a thing for ascetic religious leaders
I guess that's one of the reasons why eastern europeans love wise, teaching hermits so much.
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>>2183856

Didn't the Cathars die out because their beliefs prevented procreation since they taught that bringing souls into the material realm was an immoral thing to do?
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>>2184254
That would have been the ending if they weren't exterminated first
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>>2184254
so sjws and antinatalist faggotry.
Marvelous.
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>>2184269
Literal faggotry too

They substituted vaginal sex with anal only
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>>2184281
That might not be true
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_movie_club/features/2016/movie_club_2016/chris_pratt_is_america_s_new_sweetheart_ugh.html
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>>2183856
>SJW
crine
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>>2183904
what do modern homos have to do with Catharism
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