So, did his waifu actually get raped or did he save her in time?

>>2176271
He was too late.

>>2176271
>genghis conquered and raped so much to compensate for the fact that he was cucked
at last i finally understand

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>>2176311
Wow really made me think!

>>2176311

And yet his own successor was a drunken fuckup.

>>2176666
Shoulda let Chagadai rule desu

>>2176676

He was a heavy drinker, too. Fucking ogedei getting alcohol poisoning basically stopped the Mongols from taking over the world.

>>2176698
>we will never get an unified europe under mongol leadership
Really made me sad.

>>2176712

Yeah those chinks and persians were the lucky ones.

>>2176271
> By all accounts, Genghis Khan treated Jochi as his first son, but a doubt always remained whether Temüjin or Chilger Bökh was the real father of Jochi.
Was he a cuck?

>>2177787
he was a cuck that cucked half of the word

>>2176698
>>2176712
do people really still believe this? the account literally came from a travelling monk who thought it was divine intervention.

>>2176698
>>2176712
>>2177733
Plebs

>>2177800

Oh, how did he die then?

>>2179285
drinking, but that's not the reason for mongol withdrawl

>>2177795
Did he uncuck himself?

>>2177800
>>2179566
The. Mongol forces were moving off beofre thye even knew he was dead.


Taking horrendous losses trying to conquer a people who will LITERALLY burn their riches and then fight to the death because you filthy pagan tricksters will obviously never honor surrender terms was not very appealing to them.

Mongols liked fighting when there was profit to be had. They liked fighting people who would surrender, or who could be tricked into fucking themselves over.

They were getting none of those things, so they fucked off. Hard to justify heavy casualties in exchange for a bunch of farm animals and the loot of of a relatively shittily equipped army.

>>2179841
No he just made everyone else more cucked as himself

>>2177733
lmao pathetic subhuman

>>2177733

Listening to Dan Carlin's Wrath of the Khans, he fucking goes on and on about the Chinese and Persian lives lost. Who gives a fuck?

>>2176271
She was allegedly impregnated by one of her captors. I read in a book that the boy's name meant something like "guest."

>>2182965

The amount of whining he does about it turned me off as well.

>>2182965
>>2184275
He whines for like 10 minutes out of a 6 hour deal who cars.

>>2184294

Eh? He's constantly talking about it. He has a point, but beats it to death and doesn't stop.

>>2179566
>>2181714

Subutai was making plans to invade Europe before Ogedei's death reached them in Eastern Europe, which he easily would've accomplished.

>>2176271
ITT: John Green attacking a superior youtube historian

probably, Jochi was reputedly more compassionate, not wanting to slaughter cities that didn't surrender quick enough

>>2184361
>which he easily would've accomplished.
They couldn't even fully take esztergom, and subsequent attempts to invade Europe failed miserably. No.

>before Ogedei's death reached them in Eastern Europe
Yes, which is why they invaded Poland and Hungary. They then left before word reached them because it was a waste of time and blood, with Hungarian castles shwong no sign of surrender, the mongols making zero progress, and already heavy losses for very little material gain.

>>2185524

You don't think Subutai would've called for Chinese siege engineers and reinforcement if the situation allowed?

Ogedei's death meant Batu had to return for the kurultai.

>>2185541
You. Fucking. Faggot.

They HAD Chinese engineers in Hungary. They made use of them to bombard the Hungarians from across the river at mohi, and to breach the wood and earth defenses that were so common.

They didn't accomplish a fucking thing against the stone fortifications. Literally none of them fell, and not for lack of trying.


>Ogedei's death meant Batu had to return for the kurultai.
Again, they left before they even knew he was fucking dead.

>>2182965

He's doing it to give lip service to the semi-revisionist body-counter measures of morality. Guess that shit his professor said really must have stuck

>>2177795
>cucked half the world(FIFY)
yellow niggers, curry niggers, sand niggers;
and some slavs
nothing of value was lost

>>2185541
>You don't think Subutai would've called for Chinese siege engineers and reinforcement if the situation allowed?

The Mongols actually discussed in 1258 the idea of sending Jin infantry to Europe to help conquer it. They almost immediately deemed it impractical due to the terrain and distances involved.

>>2185634

It's annoying how he is constantly cramming it in.

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>>2182965
>Listening to Dan Carlin's Wrath of the Khans

Well here's your problem.