A Red France

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>>2176016
It neighbors would be extremely cautious.

>>2176018
>encourage clerks
I never realized there were people that actually did this

>>2176016
would've been much like the Napoleonic Wars, if France was the one to instigate the World Revolution.

Coalitions of western european nations would fight France in order to protect their respective empires from revolutionary overthrows orchestrated by the French.

Considering the French were steamrolled by Germany in the Franco-Prussian War, I doubt france would get far with such a wild card revolutionary regime. Russia barely pulled it off and only because there was the World War going on at the time to keep the rest of Europe busy.

>>2176016
>What would have happen if France became a communist state in 1871?
it would have collapsed like all other communist states

>>2176016
the prussians would have stayed for a while

>>2176016
[COLLAPSE]

>>2176018
game?

>>2176483
Victoria 2.

>>2176016

it would have gone to shit even sooner

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>>2176016
>Paris Commune
>Communist

>>2176614
Shhhh let them believe what they want to

>>2176614
Why wasn't it, and what was it really like? Genuinely curious

Germany achieves its ambitions on the continent by 1900. The anglos snaps up French colonies, pour resources into their navy and form alliances with everyone they can, but it is not enough to stop the balance of power shifting in Germany's favor. Germany forces them into a conciliatory footing and makes them sign fair treaties that limit their perfidy. In time Germanic Kultur predominates and the anglo returns to its Saxon roots.

no world wars, no cold war, peaceful decolonization allowing rapid development in the undeveloped world, science advances rapidly, wealth brings decadence but Germanic philosophy ensures people maintain important virtues and the lessons learned from the past

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>>2176663
It was only explicitly socialist, not communist. Plus it only lasted like 2 months to properly distinguish itself ideologically, so giving it any distinct labels is pointless.

Although if the Commune did survived, probably would be syndicalism, but that point is moot now anyway

>>2176483
Liquor Factory Simulator 4: Johan's Revenge

>>2176016
It would be economically on par with modern Ukraine.

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>>2176663
>>2176745 here. Forgot to mention the Commune was also an anarchist movement and its demise created a wedge between socialists and anarchists

>>2176016
It kinda did for two whole months.

>>2176770
>and its demise created a wedge between socialists and anarchists
More like autismo Marx couldn't handle people disagreeing with him and kicked out anyone from the IWMA that made him assmad.

>>2176018
You are a big France.

>>2176016
World communism, world prosperity, world peace

>>2176018
>encourage clerks
Why?

>>2176020
>>2178740
Clerks can increase your science output, they increase factory productivity and they also count as middle class which means that they have higher demand for products.

>>2176770
>pic
Fucking children those commies/marxists are, so romanticing le w0rker r3volutionnzzzz.
I enjoy history because marx was wrong on everything he assumed

>>2178735
Awful, some has to be poor so theres a reason to be rich...

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>>2178636
For you

>>2176016
Bump

>>2178758
>and they also count as middle class which means that they have higher demand for products
Except they receive the same amount of paychecks as craftsmen despite having increased needs, so in practice they almost never fulfill anything past their life needs.
Blame Paradox for multiple retarded design decisions like this and making them hardcoded at that.

>>2176016

You get to watch Franco Prussian War Part 2: Britain Also Invades You

>>2176016
Liberation of workers

>>2176663
Marx came up with communism after observing the commune

>>2176016
Everyone immedietly invades France just like 1917.

France will suffer from devastation and diplomatic isolation, thus becoming economically weak. And the capitalists around the world points their fingers at France and say, "See? Socialism doesn't work!"

>>2182856
This

>>2182856
You forgot to blame the CIA you fucking petulant child

>>2182847
Communist Manifesto published 1848
Communards 1871

>>2182847
Nope, communism predated both the Commune and Marx's career

>>2182938
But that's exactly how it happened to Russia you daft piece of shit

Eleven foreign nations invaded Russia during the Civil War to oust the Bolsheviks

>>2183519
It was a half hearted effort.

>>2177919
yea it is such a shame the two groups can't really reconcile

>>2182938
Someone post that wiki pic where the First French Republic was literally against the whole world

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>>2183708

>>2183760
Thanks senpai

>>2182938
what >>2183760 posted

>>2182856
But socialism doesn't work.

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>>2176016
It would have a really shitty flag

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>>2183519
>A few half-arsed expeditionary forces are a multinational invasion
>Hurr it wasn't the bolsheviks fault it was those evil capitalist pigdogs, if the real world didn't exist communism would have won!!1!1!!!

Go back to r*ddit you fucking mong.

>>2182856
>want conquer the world
>blame the world for invaded you
I talking wiht a /pol/ack or /lefty/tard?

>>2187219
Destroying tyrannical governments isn't conquest

>>2176018
you took my idea this was gonna be my next playthrough
communist france with rhine borders

>>2176016
I'm uninformed on the topic, how close was France to becoming Communist?

>>2176016
it would be far shittier

>>2187523
Not much.It just happened in Paris and maybe in Marseille

>>2188105
I also remember hearing there was a chance they'd become communist during WWI and after WWII, is it similar? Just academics and radicals rabblerousing?

>>2187354
OK good so Spain didn't conquer the Aztecs.

>>2188385
kek

>>2176021
>Russia barely pulled it off and only because there was the World War going on at the time to keep the rest of Europe busy
>Entente intervenes in 1919
>WWI still going on

>>2178763
>Extreme darwinism of today's economy
> Constant western imperialism in the 20th century aimed at destroying and isolating even slightly socialist areas
>The third world is the new proletariat.
>The bourgeoisie manipulates the lumpenpproletariat, i.e. rednecks, NEETs, etc. to support the status quo
Nah almost just like the 19th century.

>>2176016
>communist state
Atleast read a summary of the mainfesto, god-fucking-damn

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>>2176016

Play Kaiserreich. It gives a very detailed description of a far-leftist Communard France that never existed.

>Anarchists, Sorelians, Labour and Jacobins all struggling for power
>Peaceful, democratic socialism? Autonomous communes? Or Red Terror?
>Fuck Germans
>Fuck the right-winger reactionaries in Algeria, them and the Boche are behind everything that is bad

>>2188521
>Kaiserreich
Which Hearts of Iron?

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>>2188542

Darkest Hour.

>>2183472
But wasnt Communism before Marx just a hunter-gatherer society? Correct me if im wrong.

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Also, in a Communard France the Voisin Plan would have been given the green light very fast. Bring down the old, up with the new.

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Welcome to beautiful Paris... ...comrades.

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Isn't this, my comrades, a lot better than how Paris used to be like?

>>2188589
>>2188599
>>2188602

Citation please.

So basically make Paris optimal, efficient, and modern.

>>2188602
Yeah, Im not a big fan of roman copying architecture.

>>2188623
And soul-crushingly depressing to look at and live in.

>>2187503
>>2176018
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>>2188770
>soul-crushingly depressing
Please explain.

>>2188374
Nope the PCF ( french communist party ) used to pull out big numbers in elections after WW2 ( around 25% if i remember correctly.
Don't know about during WW1 though

>>2188943
Thanks, I'll have to look more into this

>>2188888
Not that guy, but pic rel is taking it to one extreme. Ever lived in commie-block paradise. There is something essential missing.
Same with Anglo-suburbs btw.

>>2188888
Five of Eights and didn't realize it.

>>2188393
Technically it was, the war wasn't over in 1918, it was just a truce

>>2183472
Wasn't Marx inspired by Epicurean communes?

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>>2188602

Corbusier's own words about it:

>"I shall ask my readers to imagine they are walking in this new city, and have begun to acclimatize themselves to its untraditional advantages. You are under the shade of trees, vast lawns spread all round you. The air is clear and pure; there is hardly any noise. What, you cannot see where the buildings are ? Look through the charmingly diapered arabesques of branches out into the sky towards those widely-spaced crystal towers which soar higher than any pinnacle on earth. These translucent prisms that seem to float in the air without anchorage to the ground - flashing in summer sunshine, softly gleaming under grey winter skies, magically glittering at nightfall - are huge blocks of offices. Beneath each is an underground station (which gives the measure of the interval between them). Since this City has three or four times the density of our existing cities, the distances to be transversed in it (as also the resultant fatigue) are three or four times less. For only 5-10 per cent of the surface area of its business centre is built over. That is why you find yourselves walking among spacious parks remote from the busy hum of the autostrada."

>>2180313
This.

>>2176016
[S' EFFONDRER]

>>2176018
>Belgium conquered
>15 badboy
Sweet console commands

So glad it didn't work. Fuck subhuman commies.

t. frog

>>2176018
N A T U R A L

>>2176745
I would bring up Bakunin. Bakunin fucking hated Marx and his retarded ideas of international communism. The Paris Commune took most of its ques from Bakunin.

Notice also that the Paris Commune actually worked, unlike any Marxist state in history. If it were't for actual armed interference from outside, it could have survived. This is because Bakunin was right, Marx was a Jew.

The world would have been a better place if Le Corbusier was shot in the womb.

>>2194450
>Marx was a Jew
HOLY SHIT, Really? Seriously, why does that matter?