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Change the English writing language

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We all know that the English writing language sometimes dosen't make much sense.

Propose changes that would make the English language less retarded
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>>2166181
The c can be pronounced as an S and a K. Lets get rid of the C and only use S and K instead.
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>>2166181
>>2166189
It should become more like Dutch
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The North Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger, when a traveler came along wrapped in a warm cloak.
They agreed that the one who first succeeded in making the traveler take his cloak off should be considered stronger than the other.
Then the North Wind blew as hard as he could, but the more he blew the more closely did the traveler fold his cloak around him;
and at last the North Wind gave up the attempt. Then the Sun shined out warmly, and immediately the traveler took off his cloak.
And so the North Wind was obliged to confess that the Sun was the stronger of the two.

Ðë Norþ Wind ænd ðë Sän wër dispjūting wič wäz ðë strangër, wen ēi trævëlër keim ëlang ræpd in ēi worm klōuk.
Ðei ëgrīd ðæt ðë wun hū fërst säskīdid in mēiking ðë trævëlër tēik af hiz klōuk šud bī kënsidërd strangër ðæn ðë äðër.
Ðen ðë Norþ Wind blū æz hard æz hī kud, bät ðë mor hī blū ðë mor klōuslī did ðë trævëlër fold hiz klōuk ëraund him;
ænd æt læst ðë Norþ Wind gēiv äp ðë ëtemt. Ðen ðë Sän šaind aut wormlī, ænd imīdīëtlī ðë trævëlër tuk af hiz klōuk.
Ænd sōu ðe Norþ Wind wäz ōublaiǧd tu kënfes ðæt ðë Sän wäz ðë strangër ëv ðë tu.
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>>2166181
No, fuking kill yourself
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>>2166189
How would you pronouce the "ch" phoneme in "church"?
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>>2166531
Tsjh
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>>2166181
Too much to go into detail but make the written language match up with the spoken language. Meaning each sound has one and only one letter or set of of letter that makes the sound.
For example C is bad in two regards it makes two sounds and it makes sounds that other letters makes.
You should know exactly how something is spelt by listening to people speak it
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>>2166250
Why what is wrong with objectively making a language easier to write down.
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>>2166181
New letters for stuff like CH.
>>2166189
Maybe C can be exclusively CH.
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stop capitalising I
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More vowels for every sound, instead of many sounds sharing one letter.
Are we just making our own language?
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>>2166232
I should screencap this to show to any idiot that thinks that English is a Romance Language.
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>>2166181
Start using IPA instead of Latin alphabet.
Get rid off "she", "he"&"it" will have to do.
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>>2166912
even french would look germanic if you used those letters, it doesn't prove anything

the umlauts aren't even used the same way they are in germanic languages
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>>2166912
Absolutly unrelated
His text was full of French words despite how hard he tried to avoid them
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>>2166968
I didn't write it, the fable's commonly used in linguistics to illustrate a language's phonetics.

Also only 15/113 of the words are Latinate, the text is just under 90% Germanic.
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>>2166181
Change the spelling of "phoenix" to "feenix"
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>>2166668
And make a letter for it
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>>2166994
>Also only 15/113 of the words are Latinate, the text is just under 90% Germanic.

Now consider the fact that the only words that matter in giving the sense to a sentence are verbs, adjectove and nouns
Of course if you count the irrelevant "the", "at" "to"...etc 90% of the text is Germanic
But if you consider the words that actually matter it's much different
And keep in mind that this text was purposedly designed to be abnormally highly Germanic
In non cherrypicked ones, the proportion of Germanic words is even smaller
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>>2167006
C.
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>>2166181
its written not writing
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>>2167045
Kek
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>>2166912

I don't think anyone calls English a Romance language. But English is definitely heavily influenced by both Latin and German. Did you take Latin back in high school? You can get by with pretty good marks just through having a decent English vocabulary.
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>>2167883
English has zero German influence.
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"Why, how call you those grunting brutes running about on their four legs?" demanded Wamba.

"Swine, fool – swine," said the herd; "every fool knows that."

"And swine is good Saxon," said the Jester; "but how call you the sow when she is flayed, and drawn, and quartered, and hung up by the heels, like a traitor?"

"Pork," answered the swineherd.

"I am very glad every fool knows that too," said Wamba, "and pork, I think, is good Norman-French; and so when the brute lives, and is in the charge of a Saxon slave, she goes by her Saxon name; but becomes a Norman, and is called pork, when she is carried to the castle hall to feast among the nobles. What dost thou think of this, friend Gurth, ha?"
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>>2167883
>But English is definitely heavily influenced by both Latin and German

You got it wrong
You made French Latin (out of francophobia) and Germanic German (out of ignorance/nazibooism)
English is mostly influenced by French (words directly originated from Latin itself are very rarely used unlike French ones) and Germanic (=/= German, English and German have very little in common)
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>>2167012
Those "irrelevant" words are crucial to the language.
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>>2167923

nigga I hope you ain't serious
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>>2167883
>Did you take Latin back in high school? You can get by with pretty good marks just through having a decent English vocabulary.

Except what you took for Latin influence was really French influence
The big majority of Romance words in English entered it through their French form, because of the French colonization between 1066 and 1485
Sure you can recognize Latin words too, since most of said French words ultimately originate from Latin, but the similiarity with French is even more striking
It's most of the time just one or two varying letters, and sometimes no difference at all.
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>>2167980
You happen to be one of those faggots who confuse German (Deutsch) and Germanic
English has similarities with Norwegian (another Germanic language), but not with Deutsch
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>>2167963
>>2167981

If A influences B which influences C, then A also influenced C.
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>>2167980
Proto-Germanic =/= German

>>2167963
English and German are much closer related than English and French.

There's much more to a language than just word origin.
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>>2167986
Isn't a dialect of Dutch the closest language to English?
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>>2167986
English and Deutsch are both West Germanic.
Norwegian is North Germanic, but underwent changes very similar to English. So it's rather interesting.
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>>2167963
>>2167981

What's with this French not Latin bullshit? It was clearly both.
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>>2167995
Your thinking of the Friscian languages, and they aren't a Dutch dialect but a language in their own right.
They're basically English with no French-Latin influence, really cool.
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>>2167987
Yeah, but in the case of the origin of English vocabulary, it's better to use the language from which words are directly originated
Because some words also entered English directly from Latin
They're very different from the Romance words that entered English directly through French as they are mostly very technical terms rarely used in everyday speech (genus, referendum, forum, calculus...etc)
Meanwhile, Romance words that entered it through French are much more basic and common (people, city, forest, river, place, point, use, able, person...etc)
That's why making the distinction is important
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should just speak esperanto desu
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>>2167999
Your chart includes medical terms as English vocabulary, which is of course part of our dictionary, but misleading as to the spoken nature of our language.
Take pic related for example.
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>>2168006
The ultimate sell-out globalist language
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>>2167981
>French words ultimately originate from Latin
Which would be the definition of "romance language". It isn't about how many chicks you can pick up with it. (Though there does seem to be a strange correlation.)
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>>2167988
>English and German are much closer related than English and French.

Doubtful
Pic relate, ironically enough, the only words an English speaker will be able to recognize in the German texts are the Romance originated ones
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>>2167999
See >>2168004
The distinction is important
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>>2168007
These graphs are very misleading as they take in account irrelevant structure words such as "the" "at", "to"...etc, which are more numerous than the sense-making ones
When you take only the sense making ones (Verbs/Ajectives/Nouns), you get a different result

See pic there >>2168014
The fact that "für" ressembles "for" and that "und" ressembles "and" won't help you to understand the text, while they heavy similarity between French and English adjectives/verbs/nouns allows you to get the general sense
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>>2166189
Just go back to old English
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English is fine how it is. Also, fuck language associations.
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>>2168014
I understand the German much more than the French:

>something about people from other states being forbidden

Vertboten is obviously 'forbidden' to an english speaker.
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>>2167000
>Change the spelling of "phoenix" to "feenix"
x's function can be replaced by ks.

Spell it feeniks or fиniks
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>>2168025
>structure words
>irrelevant
This isn't about which is more intelligible.
At the end of the day, both are unintelligible languages to us. French may have more words that are recognizable, but they aren't enough abd they won't make enough sense to form sentences. Then you get into sentence formation and German is closer in that.
Neither are intelligible to English, no matter the shared traits between any of them.
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>>2168057
No need to lie fem (unless you're Dutch or Scandi)
The only words clearly understandable in the German texts are the Romance ones (nuklearem, katastrophen, staaten, militar, and zivilpersonen)
The rest are indecipherable for people who didnt study German except maybe for irrelevant shit like "und" and "für"
Meanwhile, the French text have several key words that are literally the same as in English
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>>2166232
is this really how it would've been structured in old english though? Seems like you just changed the letters
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>>2168096
It's not supposed to be Old English
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>>2168014
"closely related" doesn't necessarily mean similar, it means the languages originated from a relatively recent common ancestor language which for english and german is proto-germanic. later influences through language contact - even though they significantly alter structure and vocabulary of a language - are not taken into account for a classification into language families, unless they result in creolization or mixed languages which is not what happened with english. english basic vocabulary is still mostly germanic
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>>2166531
tjurtsj
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>>2168014
I see "fare" and "tread" in "Betreten" and "Befahren" respectively
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>>2169314
whoops other way round
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>>2166181
Wi ol nou det d inglish vriting lengvidz daznt meyk much sense.
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>>2166181
I woud go xe rowt of Willyam Webster: All of my rivishins woud be in xe interest of simplifying xe langwadg and eeliminayting reedundansees and stoopid contradikshuns like "i before e exsept after c"
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>>2168096
OP asked about spelling, dumbass.
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>>2166531
Tshurtsh. Done
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Just pronounce things properly. Great should rhyme with meat. Knight should have extra syllables. We've just collectively decided that erroneous pronunciation is correct. Or we can change the spelling of things because of that collective decision and divorce the written language from etymological continuity and sense.
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>>2166181
>English writing language
you mean orthography. don't equate letters with language.

>>2167923
English was certainly not lexically influenced by German to the same extent it was lexically influenced by French and Latin. English grammar is decidedly Germanic though, which has nothing to do with being influenced by the German language, but being descended from Proto-Germanic, from which German is also descended. It's like how humans didn't evolve from chimpanzees, we share a common ancestor with chimpanzees.
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>>2169565
>Knight should have extra syllables
why? should be pronounced "kuh-NIG-it?" there's only one vowel in there, just pronounce the KN at the beginning as an onset and GHT at the end as a coda consisting of a palatal fricative followed by an alveolar plosive.
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>>2166181
Dear Friends,

The United/European Union Commissioners have announced that an agreement has been reached to adopt English, rather than German, as the preferred language for American and European communications.

As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's and the United State's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and they developed a five-year phased plan for what will be known as Euro-English.

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". This will make English konform more klosely to German, which is a more proper language. Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 persent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, so those would be dropd.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with " v". Vuns agan, zis is mor in kunformuns wiz German.

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After ze fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
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http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Main_leaf
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>>2169741
>"kuh-NIG-it?"
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>>2170140
God bless the Normans, this is just disgusting.
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>>2169822
Came here to post this.

Also, why does everyone want to simplify spelling and language in general? It's disgraceful. Maintain proper form and grammar; learning feeds the mind and the character.
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if anything french ought to be modified so it sounds like it is spelled
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>>2166181
Please introduce þ (for th)
ß would be handy as well and would cut down on some word length (for ss)
Ч for ch would be great as well then we can eliminate C entirely. And can use K for ck

Чek, Meßy, þat, Maþematiks, Matчes
Looks good to me
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>>2170270
Ўът ђъ ѳък дiд йyў џycт ѳъкiнг cєй ъбayт мiй йyў лiтл бiч? Aйл хяв йyў нoў aй гpядйyўєйтд тaп ъв мaй кляc iн ђъ нєйвiй ciълз, янд aйв бєн iн нyўмъpъc ciйкpiт pєйдз aн Aл-Qyaєдa, янд aй хяв oўъp 300 кънѳъpмд кiлз. Aй ям тpєйнд iн гъpiлъ ўopѳяъp янд aйм ђъ тaп cнaйпъp iн ђъ єнтaйъp УC apмд ѳopcъз. Йyў ap нъћiнг тyў мiй бът џъcт ънъђъp тapгєт.
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>>2170270
Take it a step further
Oo becomes ü
Eliminate the z sounding s and replace with a z.
Qu becomes и
Ee becomed ë
Ll becomes Ł

Now we kan së what þis language would lük like and its still иestionable but not yet siły.

Now we have to deal with hard and soft G

Soft g, (guess) would stay g and hard g (second g in gauge) would become j

Languaje, þimble, иën, Streß, faggot, beł, masedonian, rußian, wizdom, mase, kake, иëzy, dubz, history, gauje.

Now we are getting somewhere.
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>>2166181
spoken english is already a ''common tounge''

english is just so widespread it dosent realy belong to the english any more

id suggest we write ''po vuku''

as in write as you read

mening no dable leters, no vird relations bitvin w h th, end so on, aj min its faking anoing, hau meni vords are dere in inliš, dat dont rid as deire vriten, itz almost laik frenč, vaj? vaj not đust tajp as u read?

po vuku lik po vuku
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>>2166232
mostly good but some bits are too ugly. This is how I'd do it

Ðë Nōrþ Wind ænd ðë Son wër dispyūting whiċ was ðë strangër, when æ trævëlër cǣm ælang ræpd in æ wōrm clōc.
Ðǣ agrēd ðæt ðë won hu fërst sucsēdëd in mǣcing ðë trævëlër tǣc aff his clōc shod bē considër'd strangër ðæn ðë äðër.
Ðen ðë Nōrþ Wind blū æs hard æs hē cod, bot ðë mōr hē blū ðë mōr clōslē did ðë trævëlër fōld his clōc araund him;
ænd æt læst ðë Nōrþ Wind gǣf op ðë atemt. Ðen ðë Son shīnd aut wōrmlē, ænd imēdēëtlē ðë trævëlër toc aff his clōc.
Ænd sō ðe Nōrþ Wind was ōblīġd tu cënfess ðæt ðë Son was ðë strangër af ðë tu.

Note that this is coloured by aesthetic preferences and my local accent, and is not meant to be 100% phonetic. There's a few things more I'd like to change but I can't be arsed thinking about it right now.
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>>2170442
I really don't like that e umlaut but I don't know what to replace it with
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>>2170449
How about y, as in Welsh.
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>>2168014
"anderer" sounds similar to "other," has same meaning
"verboten" = "forbidden"
articles start with similar consonants
"ist"
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>>2170140
it all sounds like bad fantasy writing

lmfao
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>>2170401
Shouldn't it be more like: mining no dabl leters, no vird relejšns bitvin w h th, aj min itz faking anojing, hau meni vords ar dere in ingliš, dat dont rid as dejar vritn, izt almost lajk frenč, vaj? vaj not đust tajp as ju rid?
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>>2170482
More like: Minding no dubl leders, no wird rileišons bitwin w h th, i min its fuking anojing, how meny words r đer in ingliš, đat dount rid as đej r writn, its almoust lajk frenš, vaj? Vaj not dshust tajp as ju rid?

Because it's fucking retarded, that's why.
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ITT: Americans transcribing English in their barbarous accent
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>>2170539
nah, you've got it all wrong, it's

Míning nó dobal leitears, nó bhuírd reiléiseans botaoin w, h th, adh mín iots focaing anádhaing, habh meiní bhords ar doir in inglis dait deont riad eas dé ar ritin, iots álmóst laidhc freins, bhadh? Bhadh nat deost taighp eas dhiú ríd?
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>>2170602
Ju sko'iš o' somþ'n?
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>>2166232
Ðy Norþ Wind ænd ðy Syn wyr dispjuwting wič wyz ðy strangyr, wen y trævylyr kejm ylang ræpd in y worm klowk.
Ðej ygrijd ðæt ðy wun huw fyrst syksijdid in mejking ðy trævylyr tejk af hiz klowk šud bij kynsidyrd strangyr ðæn ðy yðyr.
Ðen ðy Norþ Wind bluw æz hard æz hij kud, byt ðy mor hij bluw ðy mor klowslij did ðy trævylyr fold hiz klowk yraund him;
ænd æt læst ðy Norþ Wind gejv yp ðy ytemt. Ðen ðy Syn šajnd awt wormlij, ænd imijdijytlij ðy trævylyr tuk af hiz klowk.
Ænd sow ðy Norþ Wind wyz yblajǧd tuw kynfes ðæt ðy Syn wyz ðy strangyr yv ðy tuw.
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>>2170615
Aidhris
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>>2170634
Fokhing ei
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Anglish.

Work done.
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Replace "th" with þ.

If anyone has a similar suggestion for "ch" I'don't love to hear it.
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>>2170770
>If anyone has a similar suggestion for "ch" I'don't love to hear it.
c, after all other c's have been replaced with s and k.
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>>2170270
>>2170770
for ch
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>>2170779
Agreed.
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>>2166207
dutch typesetters have already fucked up english enough

though, enough, plough, thought

why the fuck did you do that?
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>>2170841
They're only responsible for gh's in the beginning of words.
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>>2170770
The Cyrillic ч for "ch" like in "Bach"
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I wandered lonely as a kloud
Þat floatz on hih over valez and hiłz,
When ał at onse I saw krowd
A host of golden daфodilz
Beside þe lake, beneaþ þe trëz
Fluťering and dansing in þe brëze

Kontinuous az þe starz þat shine
And twinkle on þe milky way,
Þey stretчed in never-ending line
Along þe marjin of þe bay
Ten þousand saw I at a glanse
Toßing þeir headz in sprihtly danse

Þe wavez beside þem dansed; but þey
Out-did þe sparkling wavez in glë
A poet kould not but be gay
In suч a jokund company
I gazed and gazed but liťle þouht
What wealþ þe show to me had brouht
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>>2170770
>If anyone has a similar suggestion for "ch" I'don't love to hear it.
diacritics my nigger
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>>2170901
English doesn't really have that sound though. Apart from scousers.
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>>2170845
oh ok
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>>2166181
- eliminate silent letters
- get rid of TH and bring back Þ and Ð
- get rid of SH and use ʃ instead, but with similar uppercase to the lowercase instead of borrowing sigma
- get rid of W and use U instead
- get rid of double-pronunciation C, possibly replace CH with C but probably use Tʃ
- get rid of Q
- get rid of X
- fix up the spelling of many words
- bring back the dieresis/umlaut for telling apart diphthongs from consecutive vowels
- allow the above to be retained for proper nouns but encourage the owners of said nouns to change their spelling
- recognize the legitimacy of certain words that are divisive and oust certain others
- remove the rule about the subjunctive mood requiring the present tense plural conjugation to go with it
probably other changes I can't remember right now
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>>2170469
>"anderer" sounds similar to "other," has same meaning
>"verboten" = "forbidden"
Those dont look smiliar at all
Even the French "autre" looks closer from "other" than "anderer" does

>articles start with similar consonants
Grasping at straws
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Cierran tō Englisc
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>>2171035
oh and of course as you get rid of X replace it with KS, and replace most if not all cases where S is voiced with Z
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>>2171072
þis...
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>>2166181
Stop putting random silent letters in front of everything ex. Knee, pterodactyl
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>>2167923
Bad bait
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>>2171135
'Knee' was 'kn' in all Germanic languages, English did not cause this.

'Pterodactyl' is Greek.
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Go back to the old ways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_purism_in_English
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It would be hard to account for all the dialectal differences.

The only thing that could be done maybe is have the old English glyphs reintroduced.
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>>2171154
>"What a language!"
>"But you spell knife with a "k"."
>"I spell "knife" with an "n". But then, I never could spell."
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>>2171327
Fuk, forgot þe "c" in kontinent and kouldnt
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>>2171236
This just makes everything sound more infantile e.g. "firststuffs" for elements.
A better idea would be to modify Greek and Latin words to more closely resemble their original forms.
As for script it would be better to get everyone who uses a script traceable to Phoenician on a version of the Phoenician script with lower case and cursive forms.
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>>2166232
Too complicated for amerifats and seems to be based off a non American accent
Base one off of Midwest English (at least for me)
Get rid of q, x, and c.
Write vowels more phonetically (a man to ay mahn)
I don't think extra letters would be well accepted by the average English speaker

I don't have the thorn on my phone but I'll try:
Theh kwihk brown foks juhmped ohvehr theh layzy dohg.
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Q is the most useless letter by far, either merge QU to just Q or drop it. Even C can represent the CH sound, Q can be fully replaced with letters already available.
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>>2171374
And X.
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>>2171357
not that I like linguistic purism, but "firststuffs" and the like only sound weird or childish because you're not used to them
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>>2171400
Some obsucre sounding words like equinox should be switched for something more understandable like evenday in imitation of the North Germanic forms.
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>>2171399
X can at least shorten things, Q doesn't serve any functional purpose.
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>>2171467
Q in its original form as Qoph and still so in Semitic and other Afro-Asiatic languages represents a deeper sound more in the back of the throat than [k].
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>>2171485
>represents a deeper sound more in the back of the throat than [k].
A sound we don't have an thus is not needed.

I'd repurpose x and q as single letters to use for what we now represent using digraphs. Probably would use c to replace ch (since c traditionally was a k sound, which often became the ch sound) and x to replace sh (has a historical advance since x traditionally is ks, which in English words alternated at times with sk, which itself became sh in English).
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>>2171692
Yeah I was thinking roughly the same thing. The letters could be re-purposed without loss, it's just that to me Q has the most limited functionality of any standing letter. It doesn't even really function.
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>>2170345
хoли шит дюд виc из хиллapиyc
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>>2171692
What would Q be?
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>>2171692
C sounds a bit softer than K when read. Words beginning in K sound more aspirated.
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>>2171767
QU could be represented with Q alone, and all other instances of Q can easily be replaced with other letters, primarily K
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>>2171786
Bullshit, that's something your autism imagined
The only difference is that words starting with C are generally of French origin while those starting with K are Germanic
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>>2166181

Bring back the letter Þ. Th should not make the sound it does.
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>>2171327
Beťer version

What þe fuk did you just fuking say about me, you liťle biч? I’ł have you know I graduated top of my klaß in þe Navy Sealz, and I’ve bën involved in numerous sekret raidz on Al-Иaeda, and I have over 300 konfirmed kiłz. I am trained in goriła warfare and I’m þe top sniper in þe entire US armed forsez. You are noþing to me but just anoþer target. I wił wipe you þe fuk out wiþ presision þe likez of whiч haz never bën sën before on þiz Earþ, mark my fuking wordz. You þink you kan get away wiþ saying þat шit to me over þe Internet? Þink again, fuker. Az we speak I am kontakting my sekret network of spiez akroß þe USA and your IP is being trased riht now so you beťer prepare for þe storm, maģot. Þe storm þat wipez out þe paþetik liťle þing you cał your life. You’re fuking dead, kid. I kan be anywhere, anytime, and I kan kił you in over seven hundred wayz, and þat’s just with my bare handz. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed kombat, but I have akseß to þe entire arsenal of þe United Statez Marine Korpz and I wił uze it to its fuł extent to wipe your miserable aß oф þe fase of þe kontinent, you liťle шit. If only you kould have known what unholy retribution your liťle “klever” koμent waz about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fuking tongue. But you kouldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying þe prise, you goďamn idiot. I wił шit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fuking dead, kiďo.

Better use of doubles, replace double m with μ, replace sh with ш.

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>>2172412
Solid.
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>>2172412
Good work.
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>>2170170
>>2170476
Hold your tongue.
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>>2172407

Pointless, it's Eth we need back, Th is perfectly suitable for Thorn. I mean you could use Dh but that looks ugly.
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>>2171848
No, that is a dumb idea. Why would you randomly replace "kw" with q yet not all other combos?

>>2171767
I don't know. Maybe for one of the j-type sounds (or maybe use q for ch, and c for one of the j sounds).
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>>2167923
retard get in your cube
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Q is used for loan words and foreign names also. It can also convey information about the specific phonetics of those words. It should be retained to preserve the knowledge of the original spelling of words containing Q for posterity rather than having those words altered into transcriptionary spellings. Certain Euro languages ceded to transcriptionary spellings of Latin loanwords after having used Q.
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>>2172525
Although they were used interchangeably, Eð is more easily associated with a voiced dental fricative [ð] and Þorn with a voiceless dental fricative [θ]. At this point in history it would probably be more convenient to use Greek Theta (ϴ) or even Phoenician Ṭēt.
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>>2170442
>Ðy Nōrþ Wind ænd ðë Son wyr dispȝūting hwiċ was ðy strangyr, when æ trævylyr cǣm ylang ræpd in æ wōrm clōc.
>Ðǣȝ ygrēd ðæt ðy won hu fyrst sucsēdyd in mǣcing ðy trævylyr tǣc aff his clōc shod bē considyrd strangyr ðæn ðy oðyr.
>Ðen ðy Nōrþ Wind blū æs hard æs hē cod, bot ðy mōr hē blū ðy mōr clōslē did ðy trævylyr fōld his clōc araund him;
>ænd æt læst ðy Nōrþ Wind gǣf op ðy atemt. Ðen ðy Son shīnd aut wōrmlē, ænd imēdēytlē ðy trævylyr toc aff his clōc.
>Ænd sō ðy Nōrþ Wind was ōblīġd tu cynfess ðæt ðy Son was ðy strangyr af ðy tu.

Aesthetic as fuck. Now we just need to get rid of all non-germanic words
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Spell things phonetically and add more letters so that each letter only makes one sound.
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It's pretty good.
t. french
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Can a lithographic modern european language work?
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The use of acute accent marks could be made more common in foreign proper nouns.
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>>2174336
of course you like it, frenchs eliminated all the letters they didnt like
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>>2174278
Æ mæn-lofing, Fræncish tonglōrman was tēċing æ ræding an Wilȝom Af Nōrmyndē, a nōwn Bæstyrd.
”prior to the commencement of this lesson, you must prostrate yourselves before the image of William, and acquiesce that Hellenic and Latinate vocabulary is the most refined."
Ðen stod aut æ bōld, hedstrang hōmlænd-lofing Hauscarl hu hæd rityn1500 wyrks an ðy Anglish Moot ænd onderstod ðy wyrþ of tonglē clēnnys ænd follē bæcd ðe arts and cræfts movement.
”Hau is "ō" speld, fūl?”
Ðe prīdfol tēċyr smyrcd cwīt Fræncishlē and smoglē ænswered "ough, you idiotic Saxon”

”rang. Its bēn 1,000 ȝērs sins the Norman Hærowing. If English, æs ȝū say, is æ Francish-spoild tong… ðen it shod bē speld "eaux" bī nau”
Ðe tēċyr was grǣtly shǣcyn, ænd drapd his ċalk and his bok: The Oxford English Dictionary. He stormd aut of the rūm crīing ðose Fræncish cracydīl tērs. Ðe sǣm tērs poblyshing hausys crī fyr ðe “house styles” (hwiċ todǣ ar so sondered that Æmericans spel "realise" with a z) hwen ðǣ selfishly try to ward rīting from the sense-spēking folk. Ðer is no worrē thæt æt ðis tīm aur tēċer, Hugo DeCourcy, wishd he had pold himself up bī his būtstræps and bycom more than æ Flemish tīpsetyr's þrall. He wishd so muċ ðat he hæd a længuage regulator, but hē himself ægenst stændyrdysǣshyn!
Ðe ȝoungfolk ċēred in Anglish ðat dǣ and hanyrd Tolkien æs ðer Lord. æ pǣr of horses nǣmd "Hengist and Horsa" rode intu ðe rūm ænd sæt ætop ðe White Wyvern flæg ænd shed æ tēr on ðe chalk. "The Chaos" by G. Nolst Trenite was red menē tīms, and Orwell himself showed op ænd enæcted speling reform æcross ðe lænd.
Ðe tēċer lost his publishing haus ðe necst dǣ. His tong was cot aut by the new King of Englænd, non oðer ðan aur bold housecarl.

Þæt wæs god cyning!
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>>2174336
i hate your orthography nearly as much as english
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>>2166682
a lot; orthographies often go out of their way to represent the historical pronunciation of a word so its easier to work out its etymology and origin

this makes it easier to make compound words (information vs informayshun) and learn the meaning of new words increasing the vocabulary of the average person

but its fucked up on a lot of english words annoyingly, words like island where the is- represents isle
but island is germanic (like the eye sound in Swansea = Sveins Island, from norse) not romance so it makes no fucking sense

there are a lot of problems with english but the processes that caused this have given it a massive lexicon, gaurdian/warden guarantee/warentee, which gives it a greater subtlety of meaning compared to most continental languages

its a good thing that its fucked really in the long run especially as a native, its a crappy hegemonic language though

also seeing as it has many languages contributing to its vocabulary (nearly to a creole level) it would be a real clusterfuck to level the orthography and maintain any semblence of a words histrorical use and meaning

its not broken dont change it, our autism runs too deep anyway, we like our fucked up language its comfy
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>>2170901
How the fuck does "ach" have a ch sound in it?
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>>2174842
They're pretty similar given that a third of English vocabulary is French
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>>2166531
turd?
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>the vowels are too different between the different dialects to be given a one-to-one correspondence to letters, so just leave them unchanged except for removing silent letters
>but have all the consonants only correspond to one letter or digraph, C is only used for Ch
>reintroduce Þ and Ð
>remove and replace Q and X
There, a simple but effective reform that doesn't go into fucking around with weird, new letters or creating a orthography for just one dialect.
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>>2176290
>X
Make it SH.
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>>2176322
Nobody would like it because X looks weird as fuck at the beginning of a word. Also, Ch becoming just C would look a little different but not too much, completely replacing Sh with a random letter would fuck with the appearance of English too much.
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>>2176333
And changing TH to Thorn or Eth wouldn't?
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>>2176340
True. It'd probably be unnecessary and overly confusing. It's just such a shame they faded from the language.
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>>2176348
Agreed.
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>>2171044
Stop moving the goalposts and accept that English is Germanic.
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>>2166531
Get rid of the word, and replace it with either "temple", "shul", or "Synagogue".
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>>2168079
>Cyrillic in an Anglo thread.
Ree.
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>>2177650
In the future everyone will write in a form of latinate phoenetic cyrillic, with certain symbols representing commonly used words similar to kanji.
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>>2177909
Nigga dont tease me like that

That would be my languagefu especially if it allows for compounding kanji to make long complex compound words like mayan glyphs
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