When did the Roman Senate stop existing?

it lost all relevance during the crisis of the 3rd century

>>2136619
in the 12th century,

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It hasn't.

>>2136705
>The world's most powerless parliament.
Sure did.

Gauls! In the Senate!

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>>2136619
It never did

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>>2136619
It still exists.

>>2136770
It's one of the curias. Not the fucking Senate. You know what, fuck this thread.

>>2136619
>After the fall of the western Roman Empire, the senate continued to function under the barbarian chieftain Odoacer, and then under Ostrogothic rule. The authority of the senate rose considerably under barbarian leaders, who sought to protect the institution. This period was characterized by the rise of prominent Roman senatorial families, such as the Anicii, while the senate's leader, the princeps senatus, often served as the right hand of the barbarian leader. It is known that the senate successfully installed Laurentius as pope in 498, despite the fact that both King Theodoric and Emperor Anastasius supported the other candidate, Symmachus.[32]

>The peaceful coexistence of senatorial and barbarian rule continued until the Ostrogothic leader Theodahad found himself at war with Emperor Justinian I and took the senators as hostages. Several senators were executed in 552 as revenge for the death of the Ostrogothic king, Totila. After Rome was recaptured by the imperial (Byzantine) army, the senate was restored, but the institution (like classical Rome itself) had been mortally weakened by the long war. Many senators had been killed and many of those who had fled to the east chose to remain there, thanks to favorable legislation passed by Emperor Justinian, who, however, abolished virtually all senatorial offices in Italy. The importance of the Roman senate thus declined rapidly.

There you fucking go, OP, in the 600s. Because of the fucking Byzantines.

>>2136781
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>>2136705
>>2136770
>>2136776
ffs guys

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>>2136776
>Amerifucks actually believe this

>>2136619
Well the Senate survived in the east for a fair old while but gradually was phased out in the late first millenium. The Senate in the city of Rome itself was torn apart by the Gothic Wars as much of Italy was in the 6th century and never really recovered, slowly declining afterwards.

>>2136635
Actually that's wrong. In the 5th century AD with the powerlessness of the emperor in Ravenna the Senate regained a fair bit of power, and individual Senators were the prime beneficiary of the weakness of the Western Roman state, becoming extraordinary wealthy and powerful in their own territories. Many even become independent as so called "bacaudae" or paid mere lip service to the state. With virtual tax immunity and their own private armies of bucellarii they were essentially in some ways the forerunners of the later feudal lords, providing protection and support to tenants in their area. In the 5th century it was the various senators divided between Gaul and Italia that dictated who could be declared emperor by the Germanic warlords like Ricimer.

>>2136779
It wasn't just the fucking Byzantines. Evidence suggests that the city of Rome was steadily depopulated throughout the sixth and seventh centuries. Grain shipments from Sicily and North Africa ended, and maintenance of the aqueducts seems to have failed. The Senate (and senators) likely ceased to exist some time after 603. No reliable stats, of course, but by 700 the population was probably under 25,000.

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>>2136802
Most of us are too stupid to know shit about rome.

A few of us know about rome and really stretch that America = Rome analogy to Full Retard levels.

Most of us know we're just cucked by rome and worship their failed "I Gots Mine" value system.

We took the religion that toppled Rome (Christianity) and turned it into a mockery of itself. Which is what might've happened if Rome kept going.

>>2137849
>maintenance of the aqueducts seems to have failed

A shit load of them were cut by the Goths too I believe in the various sieges of the city.

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Following the Sack of 1204.

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The Senate has never died my friends.

>>2136705
Sure, Viktor.

>>2136770
kek

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>>2136619
It never died. The reich lives on

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>>2137741
As you say it had been reduced to landowners with ad-hoc troops under their personal control. The Roman Empire had changed drastically, it split into east and west, Rome had a much smaller population, they still ruled the Med but trade had declined. The senate was no longer part of a bureaucracy managing the interests of the great latifundia estates, the huge amount of commerce, the cities and the legions and navy all centralized on Rome.

The senate of the 5th century was different in nature, "senator" was a title confered onto the powerful as opposed to being a source of power in its own right, as far as I know there were no figures like Cicero who rose to power through politics, law and administration. There may have been a sense that the senate could be restored or its institutions were valuable even if it held little power. All things considered the crisis of the third century culminating in the senate's demotion by Diocletian marked the end of the Roman senate proper that most people are familiar with.

>>2136619
Stopped existing, became irrelevant, or lost what little power it had left?

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>>2136705
>le 3rd rum
Never ever piotr