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Spanish Conquerors

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Why did Spaniards wear Iron armor and helmet in tropical countries like Mexico and Peru?
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Arrows can kill
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Protecting your head is priority number one in wars and construction zones.
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still won
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>>2128435
>Peru
>Central Mexico
>Tropical
These regions are NOT TROPICAL. You don't know any better obviously, and that's why /his/ is here, but it'd be helpful to read a book before making a thread full of assumptions ffs.

You make a good point though. Interestingly enough, the Spaniards DID adopt native cloth armor when they entered tropical regions of Central America (Yucatan, Guatemala, Nicaragua etc.) because it was lighter, less hot, more flexible and more than sufficient against native weaponry.
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>>2128435
lots of inca sites where the spanish fought like cajamarca, jauja or cuzco are in the andes mountains (the main area of the incas) and have a temperate/cold climate
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>>2128552
>These regions are NOT TROPICAL.

Not him, but they're located between the tropics so technically tropical. Tropicality, which you're associating it with, only came about once geographic imagery was a thing in the 1940's.
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>>2128435

It's a misconception that they were all in armor like your picture, it's just assumed the Spanish would have been wearing what their European contemporaries were, but archaeological finds are usually of armor more or less obsolete back in the old world.

The Gentleman of Elvas, a Portuguese officer w/ De Soto, wrote about Castilian armor;

>...the Portuguese had good armor, but that "the Castilians had for the most part very bad and rusty shirts of mail, and all had headpieces and steel caps." The cavalry were more heavily armed, some very probably in full suits of plate armor. Even the horses were protected.

'Arms and Armor in Colonial America';

>The majority of the chain mail brought from Europe by the Spanish was probably of moderately good quality. The splinters from the reed arrows of the Indians, which split upon contact, could pierce it, but such splinters would normally be very thin and sharp.

>...most of the armored men on later Spanish expeditions wore mail shirts or hauberks with reinforcing plates for the thigh and possibly the knee. The beginning of the 17th century seems late for this form of armor, but it may have been dictated by local conditions. Chain mail was cooler and less tiring to wear, and these factors may well have caused it to remain popular for long expeditions in hot climates against enemies whose weapons were not comparable to those which forced changes in Europe.

>The helmets which the Spanish infantry wore in conjunction with their mail shirts were of a variety of designs. Probably all of the forms then in use in southern Europe were represented among the "headpieces and steel caps". Among those types which were probably most prevalent were the later versions of the salade with its variant, the barbute; and the chapel de fer in all its forms. All of these were essentially close-fitting helmets and, in a general sense, open helmets as contrasted with closed helmets such as the armet.
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>>2128676
I find that hard to believe. The word tropical came into existence in Early Modern English. You also see Montesquieu and other Enlightenment folks associating the tropical climes with laziness, disease and other moral and physical defects. So the association with the Tropics and hot, humid weather has existed for at least several centuries. And clearly OP uses tropical in the sense I'm referring to because he's implying that armor wouldn't be feasible in the Spanish conquest because Peru and Mexico were too hot for its use.
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>>2128435
>Iron
No. Just no. They wore steel. No one would have been wearing iron armour for hundreds of years by then.

They wore armour to protect them, as warfare in the period still relied on close combat as the main fulcrum of victory, and no one wants a pike through the stomach or sword through the skull.

>>2128552
> the Spaniards DID adopt native cloth armor
And they came with plenty of their own quilted defenses too. As >>2128690 mentions, maille and quilted defenses were widely issued by every nation sending men to the Americas, as they had armouries full of the stuff that would otherwise be useless back home, but works fine against native weapons. The English did the same thing at Jamestown.
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>>2128850
Steel was only invented in the 19th century
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>>2128880

kys
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>>2128676
The altitude makes those places have a different climate. Mexico City, in central Mexico, the capital of New Spain and later Mexico, and once known as Tenochtitlan, the capital of the Aztec empire, is at 2240 meters above sea level. And Peru is in the Andes.
Both countries have tropical climates, but not in the places where the conquest took place; the same places which would later become the capitals of their respective viceroyalties.
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>>2128435
They did only during the first decades of exploration and during combat obviously, after 1550s they pretty much adopted padded cloth armor for that rol.
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>>2129037
would they really be wearing gothic armour like that?
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>>2129056
>gothic
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>>2129841
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_plate_armour
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>>2128516
I've always wondered if that whole "ancient Greeks thought your brain was actually in your heart" was bullshit. It seems obvious enough that animals who get their head crushed are kill.
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>>2128880
1/10. Apply yourself next time.

>>2129037
No The vast majority of infantry was in quilted defenses, with additional armour over it as available, as they were in Europe. We have their equipment manifests.

>>2129056
That its continental style, with Milanese and Gothic influence, but it and the clothing is way out of date to be Cortes, as mentioned in the file name.

>>2130580
Most people of antiquity thought that, but knew that the brain and such were important, just not why.
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