Was it common for landlords to have affairs with qt peasant women

>>2125053

God-tier fetish OP.

>>2125053
It was basically masturbation since they were your property

Can you post more qt peasants?

>>2125053
Ew, no. Who would bone a peasant?

>>2125350
ever heard of prima noctis?

>>2125365
Prima noctis is a fucking myth you retard.

>>2125062
its the thinking mans fetish

>>2125365
Only Sumerians might have done that and I really doubt a lord would want to fucc that much. Cases of extreme noble depravity were pretty rare, as seen by how controversial and scandalous Gilles de Rais was

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>>2125350
Pic related

>>2125403
visigoths and other germanics practiced it, then the spaniards took the custom to south america, It´s not common anymore but until the 50s it was still a thing

>>2125429
Source required

>>2125431
google Beilager, Droit du seigneur or Derecho de Pernada youself

>>2125426
who?

>>2125365
It's a myth.

It's probably more common in modern capitalism for a female employee tofuck her boss while prima noctis is a meme from the enlightement.

>>2125350
Well...Going by history...Other peasants.

>>2125365

>braveheart was non fiction

I hate this fucking board

>>2125381
It's not.
>>2125403
Nope, real. Lords would treat the sex-threat as a marriage tax, and just fucc the best.

But it was an actual heritage in times of conquest. Saxon conquerors then Norman conquerors in Britain, Norse conquerors of south of Italy, they all practiced actively this blood-mixing for obvious reasons of securing their power, and also used to keep an eye on their offspring (usually racially different) to favor them and make them be a kind of buffer-class betwen the few rulers and the low paesants.
Gilles de Rais was a serial killer, point absolutely not in case.

>>2125426
dayum

>>2125403
>as seen by how controversial and scandalous Gilles de Rais was

You're the idiot here if you believe any of that propaganda by scheming, power-hungry nobles.

>>2126227
Facts conveniently exploited for propaganda? Yes.
>Was De Rais a degenerate? I think he was.
>A murderer? Of course, at least during war.
>A degenerate murderer? Highly probable.

I feel that this "Ius primae noctis" (ps. get your latin straight you two >>2125365 >>2125381 ) is the same kind of historiographic bullshit with a political agenda as other
>debunked
myths, like
>no anon, barbaric invasions were not invasions nor barbaric, it was just a "migration" or should I say enrichment?

>>2125429
Historians debate whether Peron (Argentina) born as a result of a prima noctis

>>2126357
Trujillo fucked every beauty queen or good looking woman in the Dominican Republic. Fidel Castro was no different.
It was a component of latin american caudillism

>>2126227
>GILLES DE RAIS WUZ A GUD BOI HE DINDU NUFFIN

>>2125078
no they weren't

>>2126245
>>2126489
>persecutor had the rights to all his lands if he was found guilty

sure m8 it totally wasn't a kangaroo court.

>>2126357

You can say whatever you want about Argentina and memes, but I am pretty sure that it was not part of Feudal Europe.

>>2125053
IIRC it wasn't unheard of. While prima noctis isn't really accurate, prostitution did occur. And lords could take advantage of villein ignorance of the law
Richard III forced several married woman from his home fief into concubinage.

>>2125053
It's highly probable. Feudal setting was a good place for sexual exploitation as the lord had his own manorial courts for justice and could also resort to violence of arms to get what he wanted since he had a monopoly of force.

>>2126660
Tudor Propaganda

>>2126660
>Richard III forced several married woman from his home fief into concubinage.

Wtf I hate the French kings of England now!

>>2126660

Citation needed for that.

If doit de seigneur existed there would be records of it. Coroners rolls. Charters. Household accounts. Something other than rumour and legend.

>>2126846

>born in Fotheringhay
>grew up in Ludlow and Middleham
>only visted France to invade it
>French

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>>2126874
Deal with it butthurt bong

>>2125053
Doubtful.

I mean how sex obsessed do you have to be to stick your royal dick in a filthy peasent?

Plus, nobility was obsessed with proving moral superiority or having good standing with the church and the people.

Pretty hard to get shit done if everyone thinks you are a mindless sex addict.

>>2126892

>The Tudors are Welsh

Then by the same criteria that would make them Welsh, means that most of the Plantagenets are England

>>2126892
>>2126902

Come to think of it, Henry VII is literally 1/4 French, his grandmother being Catherine of Valois.

>>2126869
I say it on a BBC documentary about Richards 1 to 3

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>>2126291
>I feel that

That's nice. The next step, and this is the important one, is "I have reason to believe that" moving on to "I know that", so why don't you go do some research instead of talking about your feelings.

>>2126196
>all evidence points to monogamous intermarrying
I don't think OP was looking for this.
>>2125441
>appealing to hearsay as evidence
STOP
Those are myths, you dolt.
>>2125365
That's been discredited by so many historians.....Even the meme ones.
>>2126291
Agreed
Some Francis Pryor tier bullshit.

>>2126929
>BBC """"""""Documentary"""""""""
>these important talking heads with no obvious agenda to push said it so it must be true
PSD or get out!

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HIDE YO KIDS

>>2126414
Trujillo would also demand ministers and other allies to give him access to their wives and daughters, as a way to test their loyalty.

Hot as fuck.

I think more often than not, whatever relationships the aristocracy had with their underlings were consensual. I can imagine peasant girls dreaming about being "picked up" by the noble, just like white girls dream of being selected as concubines by black men.

>>2126929

Was it presented by this bloke?

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>>2127007

Adding the pic might be useful....

>>2127007
Can't remember.
I guess I'm going to watch documentaries all day to find a source

>>2125053
I recall reading an excerpt from Usama ibn Munqidh where he talks about an uncle who boasted that his day couldn't really begin until he'd fucked a peasant girl in the morning.

Affairs in general were common no matter the time period, but what really mattered was proximity and access. It'd be really hard for a noble to just stroll into a random village, get his dick wet, and walk out without getting attacked by an angry mob. What would more likely happen is that a noble on the march with his army might lodge someplace or hire some local servants and be tempted to start an affair under a more secure roof. This sort of thing was common enough in the early Modern period with young men of a household and the maids that worked there.

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>>2125365
>a higher level of discourse

>>2125426
T H I C C

>>2126103
bye rddit

>>2127607
Well look at it from the girl's perspective. At worst she ends up with a baby (which she can end up using as a token of favor later) and at best she becomes a concubine or mistress, and dramatically improves her quality of life.

>>2128139
That's only if she's legally or physically secure, and neither are all that likely since a peasant community recognizing and accepting a single-mother and er bastard isn't historically common, nor was any court or manor openly accepting of a peasant concubine possibly any sort of influence on a noble's personal/household affairs. Even harems were pretty strict about that sort of thing.

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Testosterone levels were double, triple, or even quadruple the levels of modern men today, add in to that no porn and no privacy to masturbate the average man was horny as FUCK constantly, as soon as some peasant bitch bends over and you see her ass outline through the dress you're already rock hard

>>2128258
>Testosterone levels were double, triple, or even quadruple the levels of modern men today
citation needed

>>2126892
HOW WILL ANGLOKEKS EVER RECOVER!?

>>2125053
>Sex with somen during any points in history before they regularly shaved their vaginas, assholes, legs and armpits.

No fuckin thanks.

>>2128628
People have been shaving forever.
Athenian women shaved themselves with sea shells

>>2128258
http://is.4chan.org/wsg/1481617730679.webm

You get your history from inforwars, don't you?

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>>2125053
>qt peasant women
>hairy legs, arms, armpits, face, probably chest and back too
>no bath since ever
>incapable of having any kind of critical thinking/having a meaningful conversation - mere beasts of burden with human clothes
>10 kids by the age of 20 leave a trail of mayhem and destruction all over their bodies

>qt

>>2128628
>Not liking a little hair to add some flair

get the fuck out

I wonder how many women Genghis Khan fucked.

>>2128842
It's estimated that 1/5th of all East Asians are related to Genghis.

Of course, this is more because Genghis' descendants fucked around as much, if not more than he did, but still.

DON'T TALK TO ME OR MILORD'S SON EVER AGAIN

>>2128935
Very good post

>>2126998
> Random Black men
>not celebrities in general like Justin, Drake, or One Direction
You /pol/ fags have a serious problem and possible fetish. I really feel bad for you.

>>2128628
For the longest times, women would never shave their vaginas and neither men their balls though. Armpits and legs might have been different though. I heard the Scottish used sand paper.

>>2129000
>I really feel bad for you.
I enjoy their stupidity.
checked.

>>2128686
The face hair thing makes no sense. The average women, no mater how poor or rich does not have back or facial hair, the same way few women are over 6 feet.

>>2129018
I find it funny that /pol/ thinks that white women are being conditioned to offer themselves to black men and be bred by them in an effort to destroy the white race.
When in reality most chicks just want to sleep around with celebs.

>>2129013
>>2129020
Sorry, ignore that first comment if it's still there, I misread it and thought you were the /pol/ poster. It's late and I got to be getting to bed.

>>2125426
hnng

>>2129127
I know the Plantagenet were French, but Southern France didnt even speak French
Now, Lionheart could speak Occitant, so maybe his descendents could too

There is a folklore rumor that Henry IV had a relationship with a peasant girl in southern France. Is true ? I don't know.

>>2125365
Read a book

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Why do redditors make pretend they don't want to fuck a peasant girl?

>>2129331

>hairy
>grubby
>sweaty
>terrible teeth
>awful body odour

Sounds like a *dream*, anon.

>>2129336
>wahhh she smells a little bit mommy I don't wanna put my special place in her special place I want her to be clean like my animes

Bet you're a virgin

>>2129345

>I'll fuck anything at this point!!

you sound like the virgin here, virgin.

>>2126944
About today's revisionism, you pleb
>i "feel" that this is historiagraphical propaganda orientated by interest or zeitgeist
>we will "know" in a few decades
See the difference.
About feudalism and IPN
>I "know" for a fact that the inhabitants of many different villages nearby my hometown are still dubbed "Earl's bastards" because of the exuberance of pic related, who enforced the ius well into the XVII century. This is a fact. I can provide more, but i think you'll be more comfortable clinging to the narrative they taught you in primary school.

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>>2129386
Forgot the pic related
>mfw arguing history with plebs

>>2126957
You clearly lack comprehension of the very posts you're replying to, how should I think that you can read something like a history book?

>>2128686
>hairy legs, arms, armpits, face, probably chest and back too
>no bath since ever

Almost every woman from any estate of the realm was like that.

>>2129439
I don't think women had "hairy faces" or backs anywhere really/ Women do not get those things. If some do, it's a genetic anomaly.
And no, nobles and wealthy people who had money at the time bathed most days, especially women. Please get that myth out of here.

>>2129588
Southern European women do grow facial hair

>>2129914

Yes, they call such people "men".

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>>2129014
you would be negatively surprised if we women didn't have a 21st century arsenal to end any trace of hair from their bodies

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>>2125381
>>2125403
>>2126040
keep in mind that while this might have never happened in a medieval europe, it happens today in some places of africa

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3703122/HIV-infected-man-paid-3-girls-virginity-sexual-cleansing-ritual-Malawi.html
>http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hiv-infected-man-paid-3-8461262

>tfw no education to become an hyena

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>>2129331
>believing early days photoshop
i was hoping the IQ average on this board was higher than what's currently showing

>>2130136
Oh gawdy fap fap fap

>>2125426
who dis is

I recall reading of a french count that did this, he had well over a hundred bastard children

an eighth of the frogs are doubtless related to this guy

>>2128935

10/10

>>2130122
hay guys im a grl lol

fuck off.

>>2129331
>rough hands
>hairy
>clothes smell of manure
>yellow teeth
>eats with her hands and reeks of beer cause the water has amoebas and nobody wants to drink it
>Only topics of discussion are what the pastor told us last sunday, that her crotch is itchy and that the cow gave birth to another calf

You can have that 10th century pimply ass all for yourself m8

>>2130244

Not everyone is like in your family, boy.

>>2130244
>>yellow teeth

Would her teeth be worse than a noble woman if she can't afford sugar?

>>2126892
>Tudors were Welsh
This meme needs to stop. Henry VII was like 1/8th Welsh or something ridiculous like that.

>inb4 butthurt Anglo
I'm a Welshfag

>>2129336
Women are supposed to smell.

>>2130228
>implying you need to be a girl to know about their deceitful nature
permavirgins pls go

>>2130259
yes, since they consumed a lot of wheat
so expect them to be toothless at the age of 20

>>2130122
I said few. There women over 6 feet, yes? How many though? And plus many of those few women with any "unsightly hair" have like 5 strands sticking out from their upper lip or chin. Wow, what a hairy beast.

>>2130353
SO you're not a woman and you just pretended like many a pathetic faggot on this site? Ok, thanks for being honest at least.

>>2130368
>implying

Medieval peasants had better dental health than we do today. Your carbo garbo rubbish needs to fuck off back to

>>>/fit/

where it belongs.

Moore and Corbett examined patterns of dental caries in Britain from the Iron Age through the 19th century (1971; 1973; 1975; 1976) and found that for much of the 2000-year period between the Iron Age and the end of the Medieval period, overall caries prevalence was low (less than 20 percent of teeth, on average, were carious). Studies of various medieval populations have found frequencies of individuals with caries that range from 5 to nearly 50 percent (Kerr et al., 1988; Kerr, 1990; Šlaus, 2002; Vodanovic et al., 2005; Caglar et al., 2007) and percentages of teeth that are carious that range from less than 5 to nearly 25 percent (Lunt, 1974; Kerr et al., 1988; Kerr, 1990; O'Sullivan et al., 1993; Watt et al., 1997; Esclassan et al., 2009). Investigations of dental caries in more recent populations, such as 18th century England (O'Sullivan et al., 1993; Whittaker and Molleson, 1996), late 19th/early 20th century Portugal (Wasterlain et al., 2009), 19th century Canada (Saunders et al., 1997), and 19th and early 20th century U.S. (Sledzik and Moore-Jansen, 1991; Sutter, 1995; Winchell et al., 1995; Davidson et al., 2002; Higgins et al., 2002; Wols and Baker, 2004; Phillips, 2006) found frequencies of individuals with caries ranging from 27 to nearly 90 percent and frequencies of carious teeth ranging from 11 to 70 percent