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>the destruction of Poland in the deluge was more extensive

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>the destruction of Poland in the deluge was more extensive than the destruction of the country in World War II
>Swedish invaders robbed the Commonwealth of its most important riches, and most of the stolen items never returned to Poland
>Warsaw, the capital of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, was completely destroyed by the Swedes, and out of a pre-war population of 20,000, only 2,000 remained in the city after the war
>According to the 2012 Polish estimates, financial losses of Poland are estimated at 4 billion zlotys. Swedish invaders completely destroyed 188 cities and towns, 81 castles, and 136 churches in Poland

what the fuck was this guy's problem?
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fucking swedes mang
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>>2119181
has poland ever won anything?
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>>2119181
>could have been best friends and shit on decentralized hre/russia together
>instead bleeded each other to death
sigimund vasa election was a mistake
>>2119332
yes, for example war the OP posted, now fuck off
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>>2119332
Poland is, for better or worse, Europe's challenge trophy.
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>>2119332
They invaded Moscow un 1610
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>>2119332
Hey, they're still standing, give credit where it's due.
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>>2119770
Considering their geographical position in Europe it's actual admirable. Compare them to Lithuania.
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>>2119332
They are in a pretty shitty location.
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>>2119181
Senpai
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>swedes will apologize for being white
>but not for this
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>>2119776
>>2119777
What is the problem with their location?
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>>2120745
They just happen to exist in a land habitated by poles
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>>2119181
>what the fuck was this guy's problem?
Polen is Catholic country, that's enough.
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>>2120807
Catholics claiming the crown of Sweden to bot
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>>2120745
They've always been stuck between more powerful countries.
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>>2119332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Poland

I don't know. You tell me.
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>>2120833
Not true. it's due the fact that they never eliminated their enemies, but spared them.

Poland predates Germany and Russia. And it had chance to prevent both from forming, but instead they spared them lol.
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>>2120860
>poland predates germany
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>>2120869
Poland: 900/966
Germany: 1871
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>>2119181
A time of religion and war,
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>>2120858

The duchy of Warsaw didn't win the battle of Reszyn, Polish wiki editing isn't going to change that
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teeest
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>>2120860
>it had chance
It hadnt, the buttfucking already started when the saxons got christianised and crusaded the shit out of the wends.
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>>2121007
>The duchy of Warsaw didn't win the battle of Reszyn, Polish wiki editing isn't going to change that
They won the battle. Prove me wrong.
You're just retarded.
>>2121020
It had. Both with Teutonic Order and in Muscovy.

Educate yourself.
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>>2121007
>>2121022
http://mapswar2.x10host.com/Raszyn_battle_War_Campaign_1809.htm

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwa_pod_Raszynem_(1809)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Raszyn_(1809)

No amount of revisionism will change the fact that Austrian Empire got its ass handed by Dutchy of Warsaw.

Poles also kicked the shit out of British and Spanish armies.

Napoleon said: 800 Poles would equal 8,000 enemy soldiers.
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>>2121036
>>2121022

Poles had to retreat from the battle field and later give up Warsaw and the left bank of the Vistula as a result.

>http://mapswar2.x10host.com/Raszyn_battle_War_Campaign_1809.htm

>https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwa_pod_Raszynem_(1809)

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Raszyn_(1809)

Again, I don't care about Polish fan fiction
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>>2121065
You're fucking retarded.

Poland gained the entire Western Galicia region and kicked out Austrians from it.

You're the one creating fan-fiction, because you're a retarded piece of shit without any knowledge about anything.
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>>2121065
The Napoleonic Wars: The Empires Fight Back 1808-1812
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>>2121074
That's a shitty source and you know it.
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>>2119181
Too bad he died so early. He was based as fuck.
He could have taken Denmark and created a swedish lead nordic reich
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>>2121076
yeah, only polish wiki warriors know what's right
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>>2121093
That's a British source though you retarded fuck.

That's why he's against the idea of muh coalition losing.
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>>2120745
>land consisting mainly of fields/forest/steppes that are hard to defend especially after cavalry is obsolete
>not a whole lot of natural borders like mountains
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>>2119181
>4 billion zloty
That should cover it keep the rest
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I happen to know for a fact that some of my ancestors hunted Polacks during Deluge.
I'm proud of them.
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>>2121281
I cringe so hard whenever I read Ameritard posts.
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>>2119181
why couldn't the ebin hussars stop them??
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>>2120745

They have No natural borders and are sandwiched between Russia and Germany.
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>>2119181
Poles deserved it for their interventions in Russia during the Times of Trouble.
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>>2122882
But they did.

When Poland started to get their shit together, Swedes were getting obliterated.

The invasion was so sucesful only because of Lithuanian and Prussian betryal.
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>>2123165
Fuck musocvy and fuck russia
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>>2119181
Pillaging and raping Poland is a proud european tradition.
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>>2123301
Population of Poland didn't even change since Bronze Age, so I don't know what the fuck are you talking about, sperg.

And Germany was even more raped.
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>>2123251
>The invasion was so sucesful only because of Lithuanian and Prussian betryal.
Dont forget Cossacks, Russians and Transylvania.
Ironically the only support Poland had was from Austria.
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>>2119181
...and yet Sweden still managed to lose the war, kek.
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Poles are hilarious in their fanaticism. They're second only to the turks in the prestigious fields of pseudo-history and historical revisionism.
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>>2123402
kek
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>>2121092
>Norwegian Viking armor
You faggots didn't even go on Western Raids in any significant numbers. You went to Russia
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>>2123402
kek
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>>2123402
>>2123446
>>2125132
Where do you see any revisionism?
Did you provide any arguments or sources? No?

Then shut the fuck up.
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>>2119181
But I thought Christianity united Europe.
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Funny how Poland bitches about Vilnius when half their country was predominantly German 70 years ago. They even acted as a mini Reich in the East during the prewar.
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>>2125163
>Funny how Poland bitches about Vilnius when half their country was predominantly German 70 years ago. They even acted as a mini Reich in the East during the prewar.
Was it really?
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>>2123763
Skåne has the biggest concentration of norse culture (runestones) in the world.
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>>2123301
>>2123313
>raping central Europe is a proud European tradition
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>>2123763
>Norwegians existed along Norse
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>>2125168
>Raping Europe is a European tradition
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>>2123763
They conquered Finland and controlled most of the Baltic trade in the 10th century. Finland by accounts was actually pretty hostile + Novgorodians rallied the ribes there against the swedes who were setting up shop. They had to fight to tooth and nail to draw the borders.
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>>2121098
>prove it, i need to see a source
>hurr source me no likey
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>>2119332
why are people on this board so retarded?
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>>2123402
no arguments here, boss
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>>2125210
kys
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>>2125198
shh, we have to revise all Swedish history because of its contemporary state
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>>2123763
it's because i couldn't find the carolean wojak
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Swedes are niggers and martin luther ruined europe
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>>2125438
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>>2125163
>predominantly
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>>2123253
Oh my god this
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>>2120780
This made me chuckle, thanks anon
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>>2120780
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>>2125438
we prefer the term Afro Scandinavians
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>>2125428
this one?
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>>2119332
But we won the Deluge
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>>2127922
>win war
>stop existing as a nation for 200 years
boy, sure showed us
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Literal barbaric subhuman scum
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>>2127938
Partitions started over century after the deluge and lasted for 120 years.
Educate yourself before posting, idiot.
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>Poles had to beg a frenchman and send their wives over to him in order to have his nation back

Actual not-meme cucks.
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>>2119181
why arent swedes importing poles as an apology?
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>>2128017
What?

>>2128021
They are.
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>>2120870
STOP
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>>2128021

We are. Polish and Baltic people come here and build shit for cheap, work hard and has a compatible culture to ours. 7/10 immigrants would recommend.
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>>2119181
I think Poles just like to whine a lot
They also claim that Germany should pay them 800 billions of reparations, lol
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>>2120858
seems like Poland never won against Germany
>inb4 monastic order = germany
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>>2128181
t.Ivan Slalovic
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>>2119181
>>According to the 2012 Polish estimates, financial losses of Poland are estimated at 4 billion zlotys.
So like ten bucks
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>>2127922
your pic is inaccurate as fuck
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>>2119181

My face every time I see a polish thread
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>>2128347
Poland won many times against >H>R>E but I guess it doesn't count.
Well, there is this I think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Poland_Uprising_(1918%E2%80%9319)
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>>2128347
Well, they had whooping 2 wars against united Germany. First one they won, on second they were on the winning side.
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>>2128347
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Poland_Uprising_(1918%E2%80%9319)
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>>2125198
>conquering Finland

it's like beating up a downie
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>Poland
The country that european powers keep bringing back from the dead just for laughs.
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>>2119332
Most battles involving winged hussars.
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>>2119332
No
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>>2130908
try and find a more beta country then pooland its impossible
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>>2130968
Beta?

Since when do Betas fight hard? Betas give up, Alphas fight.
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>>2127538
thansk senpai
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Lolxd
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>>2130976
betas fight when no other alternative is available
and then they lose because they are betas
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>>2132958
When did Poland lose though?


>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262


>Raids from the direction of Coudehard managed to penetrate the Polish defences and take captives. The final German effort came at around 11:00—SS remnants had infiltrated through the wooded hills to the rear of the 1st Armoured Regiment's dressing station. This "suicidal" assault was defeated at point-blank range by the 9th Infantry Battalion with the 1st Armoured Regiment's tanks using their anti-aircraft machine guns in support.[6][58] The machine guns' tracer ammunition set fire to the grass, killing wounded German men on the slope.[59

>Stefanowicz, himself wounded during the day's fighting,[52] struck a fatalistic note as he addressed his four remaining officers: "Gentlemen, all is lost. I do not think that the Canadians can come to our rescue. We have only about 110 able-bodied men left. Five shells per gun and 50 bullets per man. That's very little, but fight all the same. Surrender to the S.S. is futile; you know that. I thank you. You have fought well. Good luck, gentlemen. Tonight we shall die for Poland and for civilization! . . . each tank will fight independently, and eventually each man for himself."[56]

>According to military historian Gregor Dallas: "The Poles had closed the Falaise Pocket. The Poles had opened the gate to Paris."[62] Simonds stated that he had "never seen such wholesale havoc in his life" and Canadian engineers erected a sign on Point 262N's summit reading simply "A Polish Battlefield.[6]

>In 1965 on the battle's 20th anniversary, a monument to the Polish, Canadian, American and French units that took part in the battle was erected on Hill 262.[63] Marking the occasion, former President of the United States Dwight D. Eisenhower commented that "no other battlefield presented such a horrible sight of death, hell, and total destruction."[64]
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>>2130894
Hahaa, you got me hehehe. It was not actually. As i already pointed out they put up fierce resistance and won over them few times before pacifying after that they had to figh novgorodians who rallied the eastern tribes aginst the western ones and sweden. Is this /int/ tier garbage what /his/ has become?
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>>2133014
>Is this /int/ tier garbage what /his/ has become?

You're free to ignore posts. Also citing sources and quoting without doing a direct reply works to maintain quality.

This isn't meant to be the ideal vehicle for debate, because you usually have to condense everything that is convincing into a single post.
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