A Question on Saint Veneration

>>2113173

Wouldn't the fact that they apparently formed a "connection" suggest they might have been on to something?

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>>2113223
I put the question in terms of catholic holy men but in a general sense I would assume that all holy men would interpret their experience in terms of their own societal expectations.

>>2113173
Catholics aren't Christian

>>2113484
This meme again

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bumping for curiosity

>>2113173
Saint George is equated with the figure of al-Khidr, popular in more esoteric Islamic traditions. In general, Saint George is the equivalent of many I-E dragonslaying heroes.

Also Buddha Sakyamuni was at one point a Catholic saint. I believe he's still venerated in Orthodox Church. That's the opposite migration than what you're asking, but it's an example either way.

>>2113173
This isn't to say you must be dogmatically Roman Catholic but It would be in bad faith to beseech as saint who devoted their life Christianity without believing at least basic Christian principals.

>>2113603
Imo that is. I don't speak for them, I don't pretend to know how they'd feel about it.

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>>2113603
>>2113611
I can easily see where you are coming from there. Perhaps in some cases one should at least donate to the church to receive a saints approval.

I guess a corporeal way of considering it could be a case of a local priest. You may not be christian but he is a pillar of the community whos wisdom goes a long way and whom you would respect and support regardless out of a sense that you know he is the wisest and best person in the community. Depending on how chill he is, he may help you with his wisdom regardless on your views on the cosmic order.

If we accept the permanence of the spirit and their ability to guide the earth, then we just extrapolate this relationship beyond the pale of death and increase the scope. We would accept that certain spirits of men whether they were Catholic or Buddhist or otherwise, have a distinct level of wisdom in their respective fields and may be respected, venerated or possibly contacted and hopefully they would accept the differences in faith and intercede on ones behalf.

Now that I am thinking about it, this may in effect be an extended form of ancestor worship, though I am not sure.

>outside of Christianity
There is Catholicism

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>>2113484

>>2113806
You know real life isn't Skyrim, right?

>>2114046
I'm sorry that you are so hollow that you can't discuss religion without thinking about vidya.

>>2113173

All saints are outside of Catholicism.

All born again Christians are saints.

Dealing with demons is a really bad idea.

>>2113488
Facts are stubborn things. check'd

>>2113806
Yes, if you were Japanese, the system you talk about would be Shinto.

And the local priest teaching pagan ways and molesting young boys has zero spiritual benefit to the neighborhood.

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>>2114127
>the system you talk about would be Shinto.

...but I don't want to be a weaboo...

>>2113806
It's not ancestors worship. Saint veneration could be described like forging relationships with people in Heaven. Let's say your devoted to Saint Joseph. You might meditate upon his life, look to him for inspiration when you need to make decision, and pray to him for intercession. You might even consecrate yourself to him in the manner of a master/apprentice relationship.

>>2114380

>It's totally not necromancy when we do it.

Papists have no friends, and no place, in the Kingdom of God.