ITT:Psychopaths

>>2102511
Stalin was probably more of a sociopath desu

He did literally nothing wrong.

>>2102568
This stale as fuck argument. the terms are interchangeable..

>>2102607
t. Tankie
You people are worse than Hitler worshipers

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>>2102511

Im glad this marc maron looking faggot got picked

>>2102728
They both take themselves as seriously. Day of the pick when.

>>2102537
Why did she classify those who took social security and Medicare as "Moochers" advocating for these programs to be shut down and yet she took these same benefits later on in life?

>>2102511
Your are bad in history if you don't see him as a hero.

>>2102746
You're bad at reading if you think he said he wasn't a hero in the annals of history

>>2102746
If Stalin was such a hero why he did he throw millions of his own people denoucing them as 'traitors' into the hellish gulags including tens of thousands of soldiers such as Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Lev Kopelev along with all Soviet POWs who had to put their lives on the line to defeat Nazism and defend the Soviet Union?

>>2102764

lol he was Georgian, those weren't his people and neither was anyone supporting the Russian Tsarist system of slavery and excess.

>>2102816
>slavery and excess
the irony is strong with this one

>>2102826

They lived in excess by enslaving the peasantry. What's so difficult to understand about that?

>>2102816
He imprisoned and killed Georgians too buddy, and he advocated the adoption of Russian culture in the non-Russian territories.

Why didn't he end the Tsarist system of slavery and excess by creating a better life for the people he ruled over and who sacrificed so much during the five year plans and the Second World War instead of throwing them into camps to work as literal slaves?

what the fuck is a psychopath?

IIRC they took it out of the MDM or whatever the book of mental illness is called

>>2102835
>Why didn't he end the Tsarist system of slavery and excess by creating a better life for the people he ruled over and who sacrificed so much during the five year plans and the Second World War instead of throwing them into camps to work as literal slaves?

Because it was necessary for the survival of the USSR. It was either that or genocide by the nazis.

>>2102843
So after the war when Nazism was crushed why didn't he end the system of slavery by rewarding his people including the soldiers for the struggles they went through against Nazism?

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>>2102843
"Tsarist system of slavery" was ended in the mid 19th century.

>>2102625
He stopped the Nazis by killing millions of Communists.

He's Earth's greatest hero

>>2102764
To beat the nazis that wanted to genocide his people.

>>2102897
And then he killed Millions more Communists

Truly a great man

>>2102857
A new enemy rose.

>>2102901
Only to continue the Gulag System that would last for years after the Nazis had been vanquished.

>>2102903
You mean the enemy that provided it's veterans with work and a far better life than they had experienced during the Great Depression while the Soviet Soldiers came back to only more of the same tyranny and state control that continued and was excused by a continuing state of supposed war.

>>2102910
The were mainly German POWs in the gulags after the war.

>everyone I disagree with is an x-path
>the new weaponized faux-science of hipsters and social justice has leaked onto 4chan

Stalin suffered from Schizophrenic paranoia later in life, due mostly to plaque build up in his brain. Prior to that, he was simply a man that was willing to do whatever he needed to, in order to win conflicts and protect his position, just like Hitler, just like Churchill, just like Roosevelt. The only difference being, he wasn't bound by law or popular approval, during and after the war.

These people aren't insane. World leaders don't think in terms of individuals, right, wrong, etc., and must not, given the gravity of their position. They must thing only in terms of groups, trends, patterns and possible outcomes. They must not think like little people.

>>2102938

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#cite_note-gulag1-51
Repressions". Publicist.n1.by. Archived from the original on April 19, 2009. Retrieved January 6, 2009.

According to the above source it states "At the beginning of 1953 the total number of prisoners in prison camps was more than 2.4 million of which more than 465,000 were political prisoners."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Union#cite_note-1

This source states "According to Soviet records 381,067 German Wehrmacht POWs died in NKVD camps."

Therefore the majority of Gulag Prisoners were not German POWs as there were still many more gulag prisoners that remained in the camps before the german POWs arrived.

Additionally Stalin issued Order 270 issued in 1941 effectively banned Soviet soldiers from surrendering in which Stalin stated: "There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors."

Even though more German POWs were imprisoned in the Gulags than for mer Soviet POWs it is appalling that Stalin imprisoned these men who despite surrending still fought against the Invaders before being captured and were sent to camps that were just as worse as the German camps the few who did survive had to endure.

So even though the number of German POWs imprisoned was great it didn't exceed the number of Soviets already and subsequently imrpisoned in the camps including the prisoners, former soldiers, and political dissidents.

>>2102975
>There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors."
Stop this meme. This quote is never found neither in the order text, nor in any other document.

Don't forget that Gulag system was meant for prisoners of all kinds - both political and criminal. The post-war USSR had to deal with great threat from criminals and ex-nazi collaborators in baltic countries and Ukraine.
>>2102835
>Why didn't he end the Tsarist system of slavery and excess by creating a better life for the people he ruled over
He did. Industrialisation, mass-building of the new facilities and houses. For example, try to search for photos of Omsk in 1910s and in 1950s.
>>2102764
>millions
Most of them are just street thugs.

>>2102999
He still threw former Soviet POWs and tens of thousands of soldiers into camps after the war.

Even if the quote may not be real Stalin still commited this unjustifiable act.

>>2103009
>He still threw former Soviet POWs and tens of thousands of soldiers into camps after the war.
Not just "in camps".
The filtration camps were established under control of SMERSh and their main idea was to be the place of temporary detention of POWs while the investigation of their fate was going on. If you were in the concentration camp, you could know about rats, collaborators, spies disguised as freed POWs. The filtration camps are not a crime, but a neccesary, demonised by perestroika and post-perestroika writers.
The mechanism of spy infiltration through POWs is well-shown in the first episode of polish Stawka wieksza niz zycie TV series.

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>>2102511

>woops! just molested an intern, drunkingly drove my car into a river, and left her there past out to drown!

>Woops! Just made contact with the KGB and committed treason simply to make sure a republican doesnt win the 1984 election!

>hehe oh well, Im still going to be viewed as some sort of folk hero by democrats even though I have done dick in my time

>>2102568
>>2102511

What social norms did he compulsively violate? What were his age-inappropriate actions?

>>2104357

murdering millions of people/genocide

>>2104410
But he did this using society. Doesn't demonstrate antisociality.

>>2104419

yes it does. All you can do is bitch about semantics

>>2102568
There's no difference.

>>2104427

No, it doesn't. The guy didn't have a tough time fitting in because he was constantly breaking basic social norms all the time. He was very effective in persuading society to do what he wanted.