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Why plebs' too flail to understand him:
>One does not only wish to be understood when one writes; one wishes just as surely not to be understood. It is not by any means necessarily an objection to a book when anybody finds it impossible to understand: perhaps that was part of the author’s intention—he did not want to be understood by just “anybody.” Every more noble spirit and taste selects its audience when it wishes to communicate itself; and choosing them, it at the same time erects barriers against “the others.” All the more subtle laws of any style have their origin at this point..

What's your favourite fruit, book, trail, music, painting, city?
What would he think of the 1900s?

Allowed ITT: fruit, Greco-Romans, Renaissance, French classicism, Dionysian art, >>>/out/, power cosmology, anti-pessimism, immorality, genealogical method, fruit, >Identifying Ressentiment.jpg

>I myself am still enough of a Pole to give up all other music for the sake of Chopin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rr5VTpUw_c
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>>2085487
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>>2085506
Give me your queries.
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>>2085487
>he did not want to be understood by just “anybody.”
Strauss plz
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>>2085529
Nietzsche is the opposite of what the "Straussian" in my class keeps talking about though. He doesn't ramble or obfuscate or alienate through bad style or use noble lies (other than explicit sarcasm) etc. If anything he wants to alienate those kinds of readers/thinkers:
>Mystical explanations are thought to be deep; the truth is that they are not even shallow."
>The stiff yet demure tartuffery used by the old Kant to lure us along the clandestine, dialectical path that leads the way (or rather: astray) to his “categorical imperative” – this spectacle provides no small amusement for discriminating spectators like us, who keep a close eye on the cunning tricks of the old moralists and preachers of morals. Or even that hocus pocus of a mathematical form used by Spinoza to arm and outfit his philosophy (a term which, when all is said and done, really means “his love of wisdom”) and thus, from the very start, to strike terror into the heart of the attacker who would dare to cast a glance at the unconquerable maiden and Pallas Athena: – how much personal timidity and vulnerability this sick hermit’s masquerade reveals!
..and these are following Schopenhauer's complaints over the Hegelian style.
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>>2085517
What has fruit got to do with anything?
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>>2085583
>With a Spartan rigour which never ceased to amaze his slave servant, Socrates would get up every morning when the faintly dawning sky was still grey, and, after washing himself with cold water from the greek vase in his bedroom and drinking some warm wine, he would, when not fellated by young boy pupils, talk uninterruptedly until eleven in the morning. He then went for a brisk, two-hour marathon through the nearby forest or along the edge of Acropolis, stopping every now and then to ask his latest thoughts to random craftsmen he always found around with him. Returning for a late symposium at the local lord's manor, Socrates, who cherised promiscuity, sought the midday crush of the orgy in the large dining-room and ate a more or less ‘private’ lunch, usually consisting of a beefsteak and an ‘unbelievable’ quantity of dicks, which was, Plato persuaded, the chief cause of his frequent stomach upsets. After luncheon, usually dressed in a long and somewhat threadbare toga, and armed as usual with thick, bulgy, and a large musscles to shade his intellect, he would stride off again on an even longer walk, which sometimes took him up the Mount Parnassus as far as its majestic oracle. Returning ‘home’ between four and five o’clock, he would immediately get back to work, sustaining himself on young aristocratic boys, peasant boys, wine (sent from Sicily), fruit and pots of ambrosia he brewed for himself in the little upstairs ‘dining-room’ next to his bedroom, until, worn out, he snuffed out the candle and went to bed around 11 p.m.
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>>2085606
>>2085583
Fuck, wrong pasta.
>>With a Spartan rigour which never ceased to amaze his landlord-grocer, Nietzsche would get up every morning when the faintly dawning sky was still grey, and, after washing himself with cold water from the pitcher and china basin in his bedroom and drinking some warm milk, he would, when not felled by headaches and vomiting, work uninterruptedly until eleven in the morning. He then went for a brisk, two-hour walk through the nearby forest or along the edge of Lake Silvaplana (to the north-east) or of Lake Sils (to the south-west), stopping every now and then to jot down his latest thoughts in the notebook he always carried with him. Returning for a late luncheon at the Hôtel Alpenrose, Nietzsche, who detested promiscuity, avoided the midday crush of the table d’hôte in the large dining-room and ate a more or less ‘private’ lunch, usually consisting of a beefsteak and an ‘unbelievable’ quantity of fruit, which was, the hotel manager was persuaded, the chief cause of his frequent stomach upsets. After luncheon, usually dressed in a long and somewhat threadbare brown jacket, and armed as usual with notebook, pencil, and a large grey-green parasol to shade his eyes, he would stride off again on an even longer walk, which sometimes took him up the Fextal as far as its majestic glacier. Returning ‘home’ between four and five o’clock, he would immediately get back to work, sustaining himself on biscuits, peasant bread, honey (sent from Naumburg), fruit and pots of tea he brewed for himself in the little upstairs ‘dining-room’ next to his bedroom, until, worn out, he snuffed out the candle and went to bed around 11 p.m.
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I've heard it said that to truly understand Nietzsche, one would need to be somewhat like him. So what would be entailed in being like him?

>>2085487
Fruit: Bananas
Book: The Epic of Gilgamesh
Trail: There's one behind where my gramma used to live that ended in a little stream with a nice clear spot to sit down. I miss it.
Music: The Sword - Warp Riders
Painting: I'm not rightly sure I have one.
City: Vancouver
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>>2086046
>There's one behind where my gramma used to live that ended in a little stream with a nice clear spot to sit down. I miss it.
do you have a picture.
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>>2086210
I wish.
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>What's your favourite fruit, book, trail, music, painting, city?
Blackberries, Tempest, Lake District, Byrd, Gainsborough, London
>What would he think of the 1900s?
First half: nationalism, realpolitik and machinery propel a global war. Rising from the devastation, herd ideologies achieve full political realisation; their opposition to true leadership or nobility leaves them easy prey to unmensch/strongmen of a type that makes Napoleon seem angelic. The liberal capitalist economies outpace these desperate dictatorships and the world becomes dominated by the USA (partly British) model and culture.
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>>2085487
>What would he think of the 1900s?
He already anticipated everything of note that would happen in the 1900s and from that he didn't think very highly of it.

The real test comes now in the 2000s, this is when nihilism really puts the screws in and we can see if humanity is to survive.
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>>2088430
Are you a European? Nihilism has not been a problem in the USA. Maybe you don't know much about modern culture, which Nietzsche would have been amazed by (Wagner's total art realized in the cinema, to take just one example).
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>>2088565
>Nihilism has not been a problem in the USA
Did you even read Nietzsche?
The USA has all the symptoms that 19th century Europe did, plus an extra century of degeneration. The fact that it's just given in to explicit strongman politics shows that everything is going as Nietzsche thought it would.

>Maybe you don't know much about modern culture, which Nietzsche would have been amazed by
He would have absolutely hated it, (well the vast majority of it anyway). Nietzsche was no friend of plebeian art, which capitalist artistic enterprises like Hollywood produce in order to sell the highest volumes of tickets. The fact that this kind of art has become the standard and absolutely dwarfs any contemporary high-culture in prominence would give him another stroke.

Though, I do think he would have mixed appreciation for how pornographic and violent popular culture has gotten.
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>>2088565
>Nihilism has not been a problem in the USA.

It absolutely is. The religious demographic is declining and the non-religious demographic is basically the last-man personified (so is most of the religious demographic, for that matter).
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