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Could the Japanese have made better use of the Yamato, or was

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Could the Japanese have made better use of the Yamato, or was it completly useless ?
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>>2080208
The age of the battleship was long over when they start using these in the pacific. the importance of aircraft carriers with their long range torpedo and dive bombers could destroy capital warships with ease and practically render them irrelevant in the battlefield. Also the Yamato had very inadequate anti-aircraft guns which made things even worse. The naval war in the pacific was about sinking and destroying each other's aircraft carrier not battleships.
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>>2080237
So, how could the Japanese navy fare better than it did ? From what I understood, it was pretty good, and had a few advantages. But its intel was terrible and its codes were easily broken.
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>>2080277
The IJN's ships suffered from the lack of radar and other advanced technologies fitted to the US ships at the time. It doesnt help that they also lost most of the aircraft carriers in the battle of midway which effectively sealed the fate of IJN. Also the IJN had no way to replace their losses as the americans can.
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>>2080277
They were kinda fucked. The Japanese was army was subpar compared to the rest of the world powers, and the Navy couldn't really solve the resource problems Japan had. They were mostly winning conflicts because competent people were busy fighting someone else on the other side of the globe.
The moment the USA entered the fight, their days were numbered. They could've prolonged that date with better strategy and tactics (no retarded situations such as putting support ships miles away from ships they needed to support, or a fake invasion of alaska), and being more aggressive while they had more ships in the pacific active than the USA did. The attack on Pearl Harbor also didn't really do that well, as they overestimated the damage they did and many ships that had been downed got raised back up.
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>>2080306
>>2080308
I know there was no way for the Japanese to defeat the USA. But even tactically, their results aren't great, they had a few successes in the beginning of the war, but after that it's just terrible. The imperial navy should have had more experience than the americans which could, at least, have reduced their technological disadvantage. So I just guess they made all sort of bad decisions, or that I overestimated the quality of the japanese navy in the first place.
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>>2080344
Their experienced pilots died. That tends to happen when you send your veterans on poorly thought out missions.
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>>2080348
Do you have examples of those japanese poorly planned missions ?
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>>2081015
Coral Sea, Midway.
God, Midway.
>Typical of Japanese naval planning during World War II, Yamamoto's battle plan for taking Midway (named Operation MI) was exceedingly complex.[18] It required the careful and timely coordination of multiple battle groups over hundreds of miles of open sea. His design was predicated on optimistic intelligence suggesting that USS Enterprise and USS Hornet, forming Task Force 16, were the only carriers available to the U.S. Pacific Fleet. During the Battle of the Coral Sea one month earlier, USS Lexington had been sunk and USS Yorktown damaged so severely that the Japanese believed she too had been lost.[19] However, following hasty repairs at Pearl Harbor, Yorktown sortied and played a critical role in the discovery and eventual destruction of the Japanese fleet carriers at Midway. Much of Yamamoto's planning, coinciding with the general feeling among the Japanese leadership at the time, was based on a gross misjudgment of American morale, which was believed to be debilitated from the string of Japanese victories in the preceding months.[20]

>Yamamoto felt deception would be required to lure the U.S. fleet into a fatally compromised situation.[21] To this end, he dispersed his forces so that their full extent (particularly his battleships) would be unlikely to be discovered by the Americans prior to battle. Critically, Yamamoto's supporting battleships and cruisers trailed Vice Admiral Chūichi Nagumo's carrier force by several hundred miles. Japan's heavy surface forces were intended to destroy whatever elements of the U.S. fleet might come to Midway's defense once Nagumo's carriers had weakened them sufficiently for a daylight gun duel;[22] this was typical of the battle doctrine of most major navies at the time.[23]
Copied from wikipedia.
>Critically, Yamamoto's supporting battleships and cruisers trailed Vice Admiral Chūichi Nagumo's carrier force by several hundred miles.
Seriously, what the fuck.
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>>2080308
>The Japanese was army was subpar compared to the rest of the world powers
>They were mostly winning conflicts because competent people were busy fighting someone else on the other side of the globe.

So basically they were the WW2 version of Seven Years War and Napoleonic Wars Britain?
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>>2081072
Not really. Napoleonic Wars Britain had their allies do lots of work against france on the land.
WW2 Japan had their army overextend itself all over china and SEA.
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>>2081044
Thanks. The japanese doctrine was indeed really shitty. But at Midway, the codes were broken anyways
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>>2080208
Sailing it into San Francisco harbour firing away and then detonating ala Halifax Explosion tier.
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>ww1
>German admiralty's desire for a suicide cruise leads to mass mutiny that spreads to a nationwide revolution
>ww2
>Japanese Admiralty wants to do a suicide cruise
>Sailors grimly accept and die pointlessly by the thousands

Was it autism?
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>>2080344
>The imperial navy should have had more experience than the americans
Why?
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>>2081303
>Was it autism?
No, the Japanese were just not infested with Socialism like the Germans.
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