Would he of liked Marx?

>>2074554
why not?

>>2074566

His entire philosophy was build around praising hierarchy, the very thing Marx tried to end

He would have probably denounced him as an atheistic Christian

well obviously not since he hated socialists

didn't stop leftists from appropriating and being influenced by his thought though.

>>2074571
he didn't praise hierachy, he scolded those who accepted hierarchy to the point of saying they deserved it

>Nietzsche never mentions Karl Marx or Friedrich Engels, and it is generally assumed that he had no knowledge of them and their kind of thinking and socialism. However, this is not correct. Marx is referred to in at least eleven books, by nine different authors, that Nietzsche read or possessed. In six of them he is discussed and quoted extensively, and in one of them Nietzsche has underlined Marx’s name.

The nine authors who mention or discuss Marx, whose works we know that Nietzsche either owned or read, are Jörg, Lange, Dühring, Meysenbug, Frantz, Schäffle, Frary, Bebel, and Jacoby. Of these, the books by Lange, Dühring, Frantz, Schäffle, Bebel, and Jacoby contain extensive discussions and long quotations. Nietzsche read several of these nonphilosophical books in 1876 or shortly thereafter.

>>2074606
Brobjer has some interesting implications, although you can see that Nietzsche mentions a lot of authors in his works which Brobjer doesn't mention. I guess the books were not found in the Nietzsche library? So he should not be taken as the ultimate authority when it comes to what Nietzsche was reading.

>>2074551
>Would he of
Dude, you should be wearing a helmet when leaving youre basement instead of trying to discuss German philosophers.

I don't think his philosophy of how an individual should live their life is compatible with any governing system, especially with a highly collective one.

Plus, Nietzsche seemed to be pessimistic about most people actually being able to achieve their goals in life and the collective populace being able to rise to become virtuous and prosperous. On his lectures on education, he says that the truly educated come to be by purposely being intellectual snobbish by disregarding education's purpose just for monetary wealth from the skills produced by it, and beyond that by being very punctual on matters of education and living an intellectual lifestyle that the drive practically comes from doing it either intentionally or unintentionally to spite them, and such is necessary to have in order to become truly educated. He also warns how giving literacy to the masses will lead to them corrupting it further. Which all of this is rather elitist in attitude wise and seemingly not compatible with communism and equal class structure.

>>2074785
>would of
>defiantly
not even native anglo but these annoy the fuck out of me

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>>2074551

"WHO DO I HATE THE MOST?? THE SOCIALIST RABBLE WHO TEACH WORKERS REVENGE"

>>2074797
If you were a native speaker you'd have a higher chance of not even noticing.

>would he of

Werent Nietzsche and Marx contemporaneous? surely Nietzsche read Marx.

>>2074801
where is this from?

Frankly I don't really know Nietzsche very well but

The bad
- deep down the guy seemed to be a right winger. People deny it but it really seems to be there. This natural psychological conservatism doesn't gel well with Marxism
- Deep down Marx assumes equality as an axiom, I think. His analysis still works even if you're an anti-egalitarian, but it strains heavily
- Marx is about the objective over the subjective personal experience
- Marx believed from many comes strength (like a fasces you might say)

The good
- Marxism is all about being a strong individual that rejects being a servant to others. Stop beign exploited and be your own boss.
- Marxism critically examines sacred cows of society and challenges everything
- Marx's focus on revolution is basically him believing that no one is going to stop using you easily and you have to struggle and fight to truly live for yourself rather than your would be masters
- Marx was critical of Christianity being a con game to control and pacify people

If he were intellectually honest I feel he would have to agree with exploitation theory. You can't be a working class radical individualist and be okay with people stealing from you, which is what the theory proposes is happening. But I feel emotionally he would come up with excuses for rejecting the whole deal, baby with the bathwater.

>>2075675
Obviously the text that was published under his name but wasn't his, Will to Power.

>>2074806
>If you were a native speaker with a couple extra chromosomes
ftfy

I don't care to sit here and teach you all but the difference between Nietzsche and Marx is that Nietzsche didn't know political economy.

>>2075827
lol this guy

>>2074801
Didn't Marx hate socialists too?

>>2074801
This is proof that Stirner is better than Nietzsche. Nietzsche is spooked as fuck.

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>>2077494
blah blah blah

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>>2074551

He commented on Marxism- through his comments "the labor question" where he discusses the European worker.

He thought there was a stupidity in a labor class. On the one hand they are slaves- who have enough wealth to demand more. They also have the numbers to accumulate power to have those demands met. On the other hand, establishing themselves as a class precludes self sufficiency. So, I think, Nietzsche sees the workers as cementing their slave like existence by establishing a class of workers and at the same time workers are viewing their existence as an injustice (referring to equality).