was napoleon an alpha or beta male?

>manlet

you tell me

>inb4 the cries of the whimpering frenchmen "b-but he was 5'6" and that was average back then!"

still 5'6" cry harder

>>2074124
he was 5' 8" and stooped his neck

also he defeated tons of "alpha males" (tall white guys) so that makes him alpha

I don't believe in the alpha/beta dichotomy.

>>2074116
"Alpha/beta" meme is bullshit. It came from a study about wolves, not humans, and even that was eventually revised.
Even so, "beta" doesn't mean complete loser, that would be "omega". Beta means second in command, a powerful member of the pack that is in line to take the alpha's place.

>>2074116
He was a proper big don but not an alpha

>>2074128
this fuck you OP

>>2074128
>>2074132
fine, was napoleon a loser

>>2074128
This, now pol, int, r9k pls go and stay go

>>2074134
>conquers most of europe
>every single other empire gangs up on him but he braves the odds
>the Coalition battle plan literally RELIED ON avoiding fights with Napoleon and getting their victories elsewhere
>lemme repeat this, the Strategy by which the Coalition won specifically stated that people should stay the fuck outta Nappy's way because otherwise they'd be crushed
>banished

>comes back
>soldiers love him so much that they abandon their previous duty and go join him
>conquers most of europe. Again. More outnumbered this time
>braves inhospitable campaigning weather in nonpermissive environments to capture the largest empire in Europe
>outnumbered many times in his biggest mistake ever, but perseveres nonetheless
>He steamrolls the Russians, forcing them backwards for many months in their home terrain
>the Russians literally give him their city

Sure, Nappy didn't win the russian cmpaign. He lost badly. But the Russians were forced to give up Moscow. jn meme terms, he cucked Russia before getting his face pushed in and being forced to retreat.

Idk, is he a loser?

>>2074116
He married a prostitute, so yes he's a beta.

>>2074153
>He lost badly.
>Idk, is he a loser?
uhhhhhhhhhh

>>2074153
Also just to cap it off

>LOSING in Russia scares Europe so much they form a Coalition again
>Europe fears his man's tiny 120,000 force of cripples tramping away from Russia so much they all have to gang up on him just to gain an advantage.
>defeated by the Prussians (the english were there too) and banished.
>his soldiers all volunteer to be his homour guard to the middle of fucking nowhere

Veteran soldiers who would've made a fortune in officer's commissions if they'd stayed home all volunteered to keep him company on some godforsaken rock. Grown men, hardened by dozens of campaigns and the slaughter of tens of thousands literally wept when their Leader sailed away.

Does that sound like an """alpha""'" to you?

>>2074156
You have a point. The retreat from Russia will always be Nappy's lowest point.

>>2074128
>It came from a study about wolves

it came from captive behavioral studies.

biologists studying wild wolf packs were never so decisive on the subject. David Mech's findings were criticized in the day and now nobody takes them seriously aside from dog trainers like cesar millan (read: con artists peddling pseudoscience).

the wolf 'alphas' are simply the parents of the pack. most wolf packs are just extended family bands. their role is not of strict leadership in the wolf society but of general guidance, and oftentimes non-alphas (or sons/daughters) will lead the pack. when the sons get old enough they go off to form their own packs with a lady wolf and become their own 'alphas'.

this entire idea that natural wolf society is a big struggle for dominance from the top is bullshit peddled by dog trainers who want you to donate shekels to their scam.

>>2074154
but then he divorced her and married his defeated enemy's daughter.

>>2074171
Only when he made her Empress and found out she couldn't give him kids. What a cuck.

Napoleon was the Hitler of his day. The number of parallels is remarkable.

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>>2074315
and hitler was the elliot rodgers of his day

makes you think

>>2074315
t. anglo

>>2074343
I'm spanish actually

>>2074134
man had an entire beethoven opus dedicated to him, you tell me.

>>2074393
dedicated and then undedicated

>>2074116
he was an alpha like hitler and /r9k/ shitposters
>>2074315
>>2074331
really makes you think... huh...

>>2074424
>Napoleon-Hitler comparisons
>2016

come off it guys, they had literally nothing in common other than being male and wanting to conquer Europe.

which is a pretty fucking large category when we're talking about European history

>>2074432
they had a lot of the same personal mannerisms

>>2074432
Napoleon and Hitler were the same person just in different centuries

>>2074393
>man had an entire beethoven opus dedicated to him, you tell me.
From wiki:
>I was the first to tell him the news that Buonaparte had declared himself Emperor, whereupon he broke into a rage and exclaimed, "So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of Man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!" Beethoven went to the table, seized the top of the title-page, tore it in half and threw it on the floor. The page had to be recopied, and it was only now that the symphony received the title Sinfonia eroica.

>>2074458
How tsun

He was a beta and obsessed with Caesar like an autist. However once he understood how normies worked and how shit women ate he had no trouble becoming their leader.

>>2074124
>caring about height

the smell of a butthurt bong

>>2074794
manlet detected, when will you learn?

>>2074802
being a manlet is the way for self-improvement

>caring about height

>>2074116
Beta because he was a manlet. If you're below 6' might as well off yourself.

>>2074124
>>2074876
t. perfidious albion

>>2074315
Mentioning Hitler with Napoleon is a sure fire sign of someone that knows nothing about Napoleon.

>>2074802
>>2074124
challenge this "manlet" and then you'll see how will learn kek

>>2074876
I'll never understand anglo obsession with height.

>>2074116
the ultimate beta male

You niggers realize he was taller than poopington right?

>>2074116
He looks like anime

>>2074331
Was it autism ?

>>2074116
>born in corsica as a proud italian
>1 year later get conquered by france
>get brainwash to be french
>everyone actually believe this
>the only good french general was italian
beta as fuck

>>2078837
>>the only good french general was italian
That'd be dismissing the other fantastic french generals of the time, who plagued the other continental powers with defeat when Napoleon was known as nothing more than an artillery general at Toulon (Massena, Ney, Davout, Soult, etc...), and the other french generals across the ages.

>born in corsica as a proud italian
>1 year later get conquered by france
Conquest of Corsica: 1768
Birth of Napoleon: 1769
It's sketchy but it works.

do not mistake his beta-rage for being alpha. Alexander was alpha, Napoleon was a bit of an aspie.

>>2078895
Napoleon only went autismo during his campaign against russia
everything else was fairly reasonable

Fascinating /his/torical discussion chaps.

Really makes you think...

...that /his/ should be shut the fuck down for being totally fucking riddled with shitposting morons.

Good fucking thread OP now go kill yourself.

>>2078870
He's doing it purposely m8. No way he can be that ignorant.