Is there anything more important for a government than military

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North Korea seems to be getting by on nothing but that

>>2070118
For now, but it's starting to fall apart.

>>2070133
[citation needed]

Norkor is a lot of things but falling apart is not one of them.

I'd say an autonomous "deep state" apparatus that you're not entirely sure what they're up to half the time because they're not accountable to anyone is more a useful tool to a state than a military.

>>2070133
>it's starting to fall apart

Source please

>>2070170
>autonomous "deep state" apparatus
What would be an example of this?

>>2070173
>>2070155
not him but i've heard that the military actually hates kim jong un

it could be bullshit tho

>>2070174
Cia, NSA, state department

>Is there anything more important for a government than military loyalty?

When you say "military loyalty", do you mean support from the guy charging towards the enemy's trenches, or the officers?

>>2070179
>I've heard that the military hates Kim Jong Un
>it could be bullshit tho

Obviously. Did the "news site" that reported it interview a high-ranking official from the NK military? Or did they get it from a South Korean tabloid?

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>>2070180
Couldn't those be considered a part of military, an intelligence branch if you will?

>>2070199
Well the cia and department of state operate totally independent of the military, so I'd say no.

>>2070181
Well if you have the officers wouldn't the rank and file be disposed to follow suit?

>>2070186
it's from a reliable source

trust me, my dad works for kim jong un

>>2070201
I spose. But is that the rule or the exception?

>>2070207
till he got fed to the hounds, right?

>>2070109
Yes, civil loyalty.

>>2070204
Depends on the discipline.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny#Famous_mutinies

>>2070109
Social cohesion, economic success, stable diplomatic relations.

>>2070210
The whole "execution by dog" is a proven South Korean lie made up for sensationalism and to sell copies of magazines.

>>2070204
>>2070181
Are there many examples of an effective rank and file mutiny. One that threatened the state's stabilty as a whole.

>>2070212
There lots of examples of long reigning regimes HATED by there subjects

>>2070216
I know I was making a joke about the commenters credibility

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Kek

Turkish President executed by Military

Thanks TSK

>>2070305
good old 146/1