Why do Catholicucks consistently claim that Jesus claimed to

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>>2068223
He said things only God can say and did things only God can do.

>>2068223
Nice try heretic, the Lord did claim what He is and it has nothing to do with popery

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Exodus 3:14

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:58

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>>2068248
>King James translation

>>2068248
The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was lifted up to heaven. Throughout this period they never refer to Jesus as God.

postin in a cuck bread

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>>2068298
Peter refers to Jesus as kύριος which means LORD or אֲדֹנָי

>>2068328
This
kύριος was how the septuagint translated the tetragrammaton, wherever the NT says Jesus is Lord it is properly translated LORD
>>2068298
But Jesus clearly identified Himself as YHWH

I read in a Bart Ehrman book that Jesus isn't God in the first three gospels

Is it true?

>>2068403

Only the Gospel of John, which is the historically the last Gospel to be composed, makes references to Jesus' divine nature ("I am", etc.)

The other 3 older Gospels make no such references, treating him more like a prophetic preacher or God's "adopted son", rather than an actual divine being.

>>2068403
No. Stop reading Bart "I have degrees so i am smart" Ehrman. Watch his debates with James White to see him get BTFO

>>2068412
False
Matthew 22:41-46
While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David.

He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.
Jesus here claims the messiah (Himself) to be the 2nd person of YHWH

>>2068328
and jesus calls peter a fucking rock

>>2068430
Jesus is the rock

Stop posting stuff that makes me angry. Stop it right now or I will scream really loud.

>>2068223
>Why do Catholicucks

You just answered your question OP.

These '''people''' will gladly accept a hoard of a 100M Africans into Europe to destroy it, as long as they can earn brownie points for heaven.

>>2068426
matthew and luke have contradicting genealogies; why should i trust anything said in there.

>>2068417
>his debates with James White
Are you sure you saw the whole thing? Ehrman has an annoying voice that makes it sound like he's defensive and overly annoyed, but if you listen to what he actually says, be blows out James White pretty hard.

Remember that Ehrman seriously knows his shit. He isn't some random internet fedora, he's one of the top (and most experience) new testament scholars in the world. James White is an evangelical apologist that only has an education in evangelical theology (none in religous studies), bought a degree from a diplima mill, and bases all of his arguments on secondhand knowledge.

>>2068463

all of the gospels contradict each other

the bible is full of bullshit contradictions and embarrassing inaccuracies

the only thing the gospels can agree on was that jesus was generally a massive beta pussy nu-male and a bleeding heart cuck whose followers abandoned him at the last second and who got his ass nailed by the Romans

>>2068463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWq3fVQuSuA
>>2068466
All i have learned by listening to Ehrman and White is that Ehrman is a sophist fool
>>2068475
*tips fedora*

>>2068466
>James White is an evangelical apologist that only has an education in evangelical theology (none in religous studies), bought a degree from a diplima mill, and bases all of his arguments on secondhand knowledge.
These are lies. James White got his degrees from a liberal seminary and is an expert in New Testament textual criticism. "Religious studies" is SJW garbage.

>>2068480

you know you've anally rekt a Christcuck and gotten under his skin when the only argument they've got is a *tips fedora*

not even an atheist btw

just don't worship a cuck manchild as my God

>>2068475
Unfortunately, I can't disagree with any of this.

The sooner the West abandons Christianity the better. Else there will be nothing left to save, Christcucks are the biggest multicultural shills there are.

>>2068483
Go back to >>>/pol/ LARPagan

>>2068475

>the only thing the gospels can agree on was that jesus was generally a massive beta pussy nu-male and a bleeding heart cuck whose followers abandoned him at the last second and who got his ass nailed by the Romans

fucking THIS

Jesus is the biggest hype man for Leftism and degenerate SJW cancer ever to have walked the Earth

No wonder the West is the way it is right now; no wonder it's always been so historically liberal and seen feminism and other progressive movements as signs of absolute progress. The fifth column is literally in the Church.

>>2068475
>>2068486
>>2068495
Samefag

>>2068482
>is an expert in New Testament textual criticism
Is that why so many other theologians criticize him for buying a doctorate and misrepresenting his credentials?

>>2068480
dude fuck off im not listening to some american baptist fundamentalist shit that if i listen to, will find logical inconsistencies in, when ive already looked this up and found that it is general consensus that biblical scholars cant find a way to reconcile those genealogies. its nothing to do with different lines down mother or father. its just someone fucked up.

now if you want me to listen or think theres something new in the video, type it in a short message.

and dude sorry but you're deluded if you think there are no contradictions and inconsistencies in the bible. its widely known by the people who study it and you havent got the best weight since you have to believe in it already.

>>2068492

I'm not that poster, but if you refutation to atheists is *tips fedora*, I'm not really impressed with your faith.

>>2068503
Lying is a sin anon

>>2068510
*tips fedora*
You just hate God. You're not interested in truth.

>>2068513
>>2068520
>>>/pol/

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>>2068536

triggered Christcuck?

>>2068536
So how many rapefugees have you invited into your home, good Christcuck?

If the answer is 0, Jesus is disappointing and you are going to hell. [Insert shitty and contradictory Bible quote about selfishness here]

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>>2068530

There are thousands of Christian philosophers facepalming every time you try to refute atheism with *tips fedora* instead of actually using all the logic they wrote down in the hundreds of texts they conveniently left for you over the centuries.

>>2068412
It could be argued Jesus suggests he is divine in Mathew Luke and John. The only reference in Mark, the earliest seems to have been inserted into the text later in an attempt to make it congruent with Christian doctrine.

Acts was written by a supporter of Paul, it would be surprising to find anything in it that contradicts Paul's theology, though it does point to some of his conflicts with the early church.

>>2068543
You said
>why does x contradict
I responded with proof it doesn't contradict
you responded
>ur dum the bibles dum
That doesn't deserve anything more than *tips fedora*

>>2068547
You're wrong

>>2068543
why dont you do it then. false belief is crap though spirituality and religion is good.

>>2068552
Great argument.

why dont you point to some evidence or at least a mainline academic source which disagrees with me.

>>2068549

Lol. I was that poster. I come to thread. Scan thread arguments and I see *tips fedora*.

I'm not an atheist and that shit gets old. If you want to convert people to Christ, then fucking be a damn Christian.

>>2068559
to be frank, read what hes responding to and its almost as shit as saying "you're wrong" go on, big boy.

>>2068579
I wrote what he is responding to and it completely accurate.

>>2068559
>mainline academic source
I have no interest in cultural marxist pseudo intellectuals

>>2068582

well, if you have a side to the argument then you could have put a better comment yourself in terms of evidence. if you're not on oneside then fair enought, you're just pointing out a vague comment.

>>2068584
you can fuck off too big boy.

>>2068584
Got it, your one of those people who thinks every professor is on some quest to destroy religion.

Got it, sorry to bother you, enjoy discussing your translated holy book as if it were fact.

>>2068595
its a statement of fact. Granted I didn't give a paragraph with citations, but I really dont feel like digging into my bible right now and a google search would validate what I said.

Now, I think that the claim to divinity needing to be inserted into the earliest Gospel implies the concept was an invention of christian theology rather than something Jesus actually said. But it doesn't prove anything either way.

>>2068621
i just think the bible is inconsistent.

>>2068610
>>2068621
Enjoy the flames of Hell

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>>2068621

Wow. You are a lazy Christian. You are going to let people burn in hell because you were too lazy to quote the Bible.

New level of laziness. Jesus would be proud.

>>2068621
>the earliest Gospel
Luke is the earliest gospel, it's quoted as scripture by Paul

>>2068643
is it? cite. dont be lazy. i thought mark was the earliest gospel and paul the earliest NT literature

>>2068645
1 Timothy 5:18 quotes Luke 10:7

>this thread
atheism is a mental illness

>>2068651
dont fucking cite the bible to prove your case. thats fucking idiotic,

>>2068223
Can someone explain to me what triggers people so badly about this image in terms of doctrine?

>>2068698
it only triggers /pol/

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>>2068223
Protestantism is dying, while God's religion is blooming

>>2068651
Yeah, accept Paul's authorship if that text is challenged

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Epistle_to_Timothy#Date

>>2068799
pretty sure paul didn't write what hes refering to. atleast biblical scholars dont think so. Timothy. still amazed cukstians still think john wrote john. fucking retards.

>>2068223
>Why do Catholicucks consistently claim that Jesus claimed to be God when he never said anything of the sort?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLapIcULLvvedMSy8Ilis0tzvMKCkCtMtj

He claimed to be God in various ways, or claimed attributes that are generally attributed to God alone or held such high regard in Jewish society that it was effectively heresy.

>>2068698
In terms of doctrine, not much. It is more that Francis demands that the nations of Europe (or what little remains of Christendom) take in those who actively seek to destroy them. He'd do a much better job (but also a lot less popular job, and Francis is nothing if not an attention whore) encouraging Catholics to provide aid (financially or otherwise) to safekeep refugees within the region (so in countries like Lebanon, Israel and Jordan).

Also notice that he's kissing the foot of a black "refugee". Last time I checked there weren't that many black Syrians.

>>2068403
It's more subtle in the synoptics.

>repeating shit you heard but don't understand
Did Jesus not say he is the voice of the burning bush?

>>2068463
>matthew and luke have contradicting genealogies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBEygmqNAUQ
36:10

even just as a history buff, this is really interesting

>>2069258
>Also notice that he's kissing the foot of a black "refugee". Last time I checked there weren't that many black Syrians.
But plenty of black Sudanese.

>take in those who actively seek to destroy them
Somehow I don't think victims of the Syrian genocide want to destroy Europe.

>Catholics to provide aid (financially or otherwise) to safekeep refugees within the region (so in countries like Lebanon, Israel and Jordan).
If you guys actually wanted to help you'd be shipping off for boots-on-ground warfare like the German antifa embedded in the Peshmerga.

I mean, dominionism and actively brokering the eshcaton always seem like good rhetoric but I rarely see any keyboard crusader who 'knows what's best' follow through on the rhetoric.

>>2068430
Then that means Peter was a fucking rock, you heretic.

>>2068486
Tbh Christians are only pro-immigration because they want to convert everyone to Christianity.

I always thought Jesus was Messiah, not literally GOD.

(Messiah means anointed one BTW, hence why Divine Right kings were anointed and shit and why John the Baptist is such an important character in liturgy)

>>2069602
>If you guys actually wanted to help you'd be shipping off for boots-on-ground warfare...
Kingdom of God is obtained through universal Catholicism. Militarily helping muzzies kill each other in no way helps to achieve that.

>>2068444
> Implying Sweden and Germany are Catholic
BACK TO POL

>>2068433
And he rolls my blues away

>>2069681
Sweden and Germany aren't even Christian anymore.

>>2068417
I don't even like Ehrman but he blew White the absolute fuck out, White was completely out of his depth. I mean just watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2Mp4v8VQwQ&

>>2068223
>>2068286

He did you're just terrible at finding it

Mark 14:61-62

61 But he remained silent and made no answer. Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?” 62 And Jesus said, “I am, and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version.

>>2072238
Titles like messiah or even Son of God do not confirm that you are God. King David was referred to as the son of God.

Son of Man certainly did not mean you were God.

Also how did they author of the bible get a witness account to the trail anyway? were they are someone they knew in Pilots audience chamber?