help me understand lutherans

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help me understand lutherans 2016-12-08 11:52:44 Post No. 2062647
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help me understand lutherans Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:52:44 Post No. 2062647 [Report]

I think i get Calvinists, they believe god is completely sovereign and decides everything including who gets to go to heaven and who goes to hell. i think i get Catholics and Orthodox who believe that god is all powerful but salvation doesn't mean anything if you didn't freely choose it so he decided to let us choose to be saved or not however he wants all of us to choose being saved. i don't get Lutherans they believe god is completely sovereign, wants us all to be saved but we are not all saved?

Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:56:42 Post No.2062668
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Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:56:42 Post No.2062668 [Report]

I think it's more or less the same thing as Calvinism + Jews automatically go to hell.

Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:58:35 Post No.2062681
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Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:58:35 Post No.2062681 [Report]

>>2062668
but then why do they believe god died for everyone and not just some people

Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:58:44 Post No.2062683
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Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:58:44 Post No.2062683 [Report]

>>2062647

>Trying to understand Theism

There's no logic to it mate.

Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:59:49 Post No.2062691
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Anonymous 2016-12-08 11:59:49 Post No.2062691 [Report]

>>2062683
ok but a lot of theism (although it could very well be wrong) still has a coherent philosophy behind it

Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:20:30 Post No.2062787
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:20:30 Post No.2062787 [Report]

>>2062647
bumpolio

Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:22:51 Post No.2062799
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:22:51 Post No.2062799 [Report]

>>2062683
euphoric

Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:25:13 Post No.2062812
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 12:25:13 Post No.2062812 [Report]

>>2062668
I assumed in most branches of Christianity the jews going to hell was a given.

Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:20:02 Post No.2063548
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:20:02 Post No.2063548 [Report]

>>2062647
>lutherans

its all about mystery for Lutherans m8, that's one of the key difference between the Calvinists and the Lutherans

Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:21:40 Post No.2063551
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:21:40 Post No.2063551 [Report]

>>2063548
so it's kinda like orthodox?

Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:27:37 Post No.2063573
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:27:37 Post No.2063573 [Report]

>>2063551

don't know never really looked it up all I know is that Lutherans love the mystery. I also read up on the Lutherans perspective of baptism and there's non-stop "I agree with the Calvinists but we have different presuppositions and not implementing what is the mystery of baptism and God".

Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:40:11 Post No.2063609
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Anonymous 2016-12-09 03:40:11 Post No.2063609 [Report]

>>2062683
*dibs fedora* :DD

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