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A day which will live in infamy

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Why did Japan decide to fight the USA? Was America right in imposing embargoes on Japan?
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>>2056069

Why are you trying so hard to moralize history?
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>>2056080

Just trying to understand motivations
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>>2056069
>Why did Japan decide to fight the USA?
Japan was trying to become a world power and did this by expanding eventually taking the colonies of South East Asia, including Singapore, Indochina, Dutch E. Indies, etc. This threatened US interests in the region, which lead to an economic embargo by the US against the Japanese. The United States froze all Japanese assets in the US and slapped an embargo on exports to Japan, among other things. Although the Japanese did pursue legitimate diplomatic means of resolving the tension throughout this time, part of this southern strategy was to take over the Philippines, which were essentially a ward state under the United States.

In November of 1941, the Japanese agreed that if negotiations failed, they would go to war with the United States. To do so, they would have to contend with Pearl Harbor, which had a significant buildup of US naval forces. The Roosevelt Administration was focused on Europe, and essentially rebuffed the Japanese's negotiations. The Japanese then decided to attack Pearl Harbor, preemptively, which would theoretically disable the US fleet enough for them to continue their southern strategy.

Japan needed oil to continue growing as a superpower and also only 5% of Japan is flat enough to hold arable land (land you can farm).
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>>2056069
Desperation/arrogance/military independence

Yes. It was perfectly within the right of the US to cut off trade of the resource that directly fueled the Japanese invasions.
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>>2056069
>Why did Japan

Sophomoric
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>>2056336
God knows history is all about fluffing your own ego and the well learned are deeply respected by our society so its not just masturbatory useless nonsense.
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>we don't like what you're doing so we won't trade with you
How is this immoral or illegal in any way?
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>>2056103
More like trying to simpathize with them? lol
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>>2056069
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>>2056069
>Why did Japan decide to fight the USA?
Resources so attempting to cut the head off the Pacific fleet plus longstanding grudge against the US due to Wilson vetoing the Racial Equality Clause at the end of WWI.
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>>2056069
>Why did Japan decide to fight the USA
Because negotiations were stalled and Japan saw it as the only alternative. Basically the US wanted Japan out of China (and also Indochina but not as much) and Japan thought that was up for negotiation. It wasn't. It hadn't been for nearly half a century at that point.

>Was America right in imposing embargoes on Japan
Well, Japan had directly violated the Open Door Policy by invading China so the U.S. was justified for anything up to and including military force at that point. It's the reason the U.S. refused to negotiate until Japan withdrew from China.

>>2057225
The anti-American grudge was even older than that. Japan held a grudge since the Treaty of Portsmouth, though the argument could be made for 1854.
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