Was European imperialism neccessary to industralice the world?

>>2054722
Japan had a centralized goverment and tradition. Niggers didn't even reach the bronze age. How do you expect them to trade when they were not even capable of mining or grow crops?

>>2054722
Is Africa industrialized?

>>2054729
>>2054737
I'm not just talking about Africa. India and some of south east asia had complex societies that could've traded with europe instead of being heavily taxed and in some cases starved just for a railroad.

>>2054729
but the West African kingdoms?

>>2054722
Could have capitalist countries developed till the level we know nowadays without imperalism?

>>2054744
>India and some of south east asia
In this case most likely. But invading those places was probably more profitable
>>2054767
KANGZ. Nah but seriously I doubt that they could extract the resources at the rate that the Western countries demanded. They didn't have railroads and their tools were pretty bad

>>2054781
Most likely

>>2054722
Necessary by what standard?

People in the modern world aren't more happy or fulfilled simply on the basis of much better material benefit than people in the pre-industrial world

>>2054781
Capitalism is partly defined by the necessity of losers. You can't just pull wealth out of your arse, that extra capital, the growth that is generated, is only possible because someone wasn't properly compensated.

>>2055279
>being this much of a marxist

>>2055279
>because someone wasn't properly compensated
>implying there is no value creation in capitalism
>implying there is a set level of value in all human endeavours that neither rises nor falls
>being this much of a marxist

>>2054767
never reached the iron age

>>2055279
>global GPD has been extactly the same since the beginning of time

>>2055279
Capitalism doesn't justify costs, it provides value

>>2055349
>>2055421
>>2055408


> being this capitalist to think all of this LOL

>>2055451
>You can't just pull wealth out of your arse
you can pull it from the ground via mining, drilling, farming, harevsting, etc and assembling into something of,value though

>>2055549
Are you saying congolese miners, uzbek schoolchildren, chinese sweatshop workers etc. receive fair compensation that reflects the value of the consumer goods their labor makes possible?

>>2055573
yes

>>2055573
what is your definition of "fair"?

>>2055577
Uzbek schoolchildren aren't paid to harvest the cotton. They receive no compensation. Unless you work for free you have contradicted yourself.

>>2055573
if a local government allows its own citizens to be exploited, they would still be exploited whether that country is trading with a capitalist country or not. you do kno workers rights originated in capitalist countries right