When did Americans get so fat? How did it happen?

Burgers.

>>2050379
Wealth

>>2050427
Nope. The poorest Americans are the fattest. It's the fact that McDonald's is cheaper than buying vegetables and other healthy food. Also if you're working long hours and raising kids, you want to avoid any extra work possible, aka cooking

>>2050379

subsidized corn production

excess of corn

production of corn fructose

lacing EVERYTHING with it

also, suburban living - need of car - less physical activity

also, very developed service sector - thus many fast food joints

also, processed food

also, unchecked genetic modification of crops

also, society of individualists who shun telling others what to do

also, anti-intellectualism, thus poor understanding of diet and nutrition

American here.

A lot of it has to do with our love of soda. I would say that is the main cause of our obesity problem.

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>It is mah goddamn right to eat as I goddman please, the goberment needs to stay outta my damn life. We Americans fought for our freedom to stuff ourselves with the heck we want to! Fucking commies trying to educate me on what the hell I need to eat...

>>2050432
>It's the fact that McDonald's is cheaper than buying vegetables and other healthy food.

That's actually a lie, it's only cheaper if you're buying off-season stuff and some fancy biological cabages, you can get lots of frozen vegetables for cheap. Time is the real issue here, no one wants to work for 8 hours, spend another 2 stuck in traffic and then have to cook a nice meal on top of it.

>>2050432
I think the point is that we've reached a point as a society where even the poorest have access to enough calories to become morbidly obese, which indicates more wealth than most previous time periods.

>>2050558
No it doesn't.

>>2050379
mo money > mo food > mo weight

also all the shit we put in our food

>>2050379
The food industry advertising only shit food and even advertising shit food as healthy food (I swear as a child I once saw a commercial where a mom gave her kid a banana for lunch and the child groaned in disgust, but then she gave him some unhealthy lunch and he was like "yeeaaahh!"... I have to find that commercial again).

Also the lack of education on proper nutrition, portion sizes, and calories in vs calories out.

Also, giving a shit about your health is shamed. If you say you are watching your weight, refuse an offer of food because you're not hungry, openly show pride about being a gym goer, or eat a plant based diet people label you as "obsessive" and many time will accuse you of having an eating disorder. It's just jealousy but this crab mentality is so prevalent. Especially if you're fat and have fat friends and decide you don't want to be fat anymore, they'll do everything they can to sabotage you, usually guilt tripping you about being "shallow" and confirming to "society's standards".

Which brings me to my next point. You're not allowed to acknowledge a fat person as fat. The protocol in our culture is to baby and make excuses for fats at all times lest we risk hurting their precious feelings. It's even a struggle to tell your own friend or family member "Hey, you've gained a lot of weight. I'm concerned about your health," because that makes you a FATSHAMING SHITLORD. I await the day we become like Asians and fatshaming becomes normalized in America because we really, seriously need it.

Americans are also really obsessed with binge eating. It's celebrated here. An increased number of Americans are getting fat fetishes too, which isn't helping the situation either. Except instead of fat fetish they call it "thicc".

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Because 9/11. I'm serious, I distinctly remember people were much, much thinner on average before 9/11 ruined everything.

>>2050641
Alaska is on diet.

>>2050641
>say that we will not let the terrorist win
>proceed to throw away our virtues, liberties, economic structure, global reputation, unity, and common sense after 9/11

terrorists win

>>2050641
I was thinner before 9/11 too. Shit. I was a skinny child and then started getting a little chunky when I turned 10, which was literally days after 9/11. Maybe parents were scared something would happen and overcompensated by over feeding their kids?

>>2050446

All of these except the genetically modified crops, which have nothing to do with it. And add on the "low fat = healthy" propaganda in the 80s and 90s.

>>2050649
Bush let them win by being such a shit president.

>>2050660
I'd say the low carb trend did a lot more damage than the low fat trend.

To think, if there was a low calorie "trend" Americans would actually start to lose weight.

>>2050432
>It's the fact that McDonald's is cheaper than buying vegetables and other healthy food.
this is called progress and wealth in liberal society

>>2050567
Yes, on average people are far more richer than in the past however most of them are still relatively poor

>>2050379
It's corn.

>>2050641
I'm European and we were already crack fat jokes about America in the mid 90s.

>>2050641
having a bmi>20 is already bad, but 30 is JUST level and 30% of adults like that is suicidal

>>2050379
Literally no fat people up here. Numbers are skewed by blacks, the deep south and hispanics, who eat culturally shitty food. Most white communities are obsessed with school sports and showing up their cunty neighbors.

>>2050726
Unless you're fucking tiny, <20 BMI is borderline underweight.

>>2050432
This is false
>>2050470
This is true. making nutritious food takes time, many people dont care enough to do it.

the myth that eating fat makes you fat, god damn carbohydrate cabal

Additives/preservatives/hormones/pesticides in food. This is more rampant in poor rural areas.

We no longer have doctor proscribed weight loss medication
You can still get the stuff, but now they call it ADD meds. Or pesticide.

>>2050741
Statistics don't lie, fatass. America is an obese country whether you like it or not and you living in a skinny part of town doesn't change that. Also your concept of thinness and health are already skewed by proxy of being American. Leave to an actually thin country for six weeks then return to your town and compare the average size of the people around you.

>>2050778
JUST EAT LESS

>>2050784
Well what's the fun in that
In exchange for excruciating heat for a two week period I can eat like a pig for months

>>2050432
The only reason food is so cheap is because of wealth retard.

>>2050788
>lacking self control this much

>I forget to eat pretty often, weigh around 120 lbs
How do you guys eat so much

>>2050844
I weighed 120 pounds two years ago. I miss it. Now I'm a 160 pound lard.

I really should starve myself for two months. I would survive off my fat reserves.

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>>2050698

Calories are a social construct.

>>2050780
Stupid europoor. Ive had european relations come to our town and have them shocked that it is just like home. Europoors who think the US is a monolith are the worst. I'll make sure to judge whatever country you are from by Albania from now on.

>>2051010
I'm not europoor and I mentioned specifically to go to THIN countries. But then reading comprehension has never been a strong suit of americans.

>>2051029
Why are foreigners so pathetically bitter and jealous about the USA?

>>2050631
The thicc meme is tumblr subversion passed on by idiotic vedditors.

>>2050432
>It's the fact that McDonald's is cheaper than buying vegetables and other healthy food
Literally wrong. Like, proper lazy American logic. It is always cheaper to buy rice/vegetables and small amounts of meat.

For the price of a single MacDonalds meal, large, you could get yourself enough food to last a week. Maybe not you are your fat ass, but regular people.

Hell for the price of eating out for a week, you could feed yourself that whole year. If you do not mind eating rice.

>>2050379

Corn lobby and corn subsidies.

Made corn so cheap they literally put corn syrup in everything.

Which is why Mexican Coke is better for you than American Coke because its made of cane sugar and not corn syrup.

>>2050379

Federal tariffs and import quotas on sugar made America pay 5 times the world price for sugar. Junk food manufacturers started using sugar substitutes which are even worse nutritionally. The rest is history

ITT:

IT'S NOT MY FAULT I AM FAT. IT'S THE FOOD INDUSTRY!!!!!
IT'S NOT MY FAULT I EAT MASSIVE PORTIONS AND HAVE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT CUTTING DOWN

NOT MY FAULT!!!!

>>2052676
Big government and corporate cronies ruining free market

Every.
Single.
Time.

>>2050749
McDonald's is nutritious. It's just extremely calorie dense.

>>2052679
>some people have bad portion control so nobody should care that the food industry puts high calorie syrup in fucking everything they can

>>2052708.
>Citation needed

>>2052651
2 days out of theweek you can get cheeseburgers for 59 cents and hamburgers for 49 cents. In terms of calories per dollars you cant beat that. Source=poor

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>>2050446
>Society of individualists
Top fucking kek mate, I wish we were, and even if we were being an individualist =\= not telling others what to do.

>>2052738
Check micros and macros for McDonald's food. It's purposely packed with all kinds of nutrients not found in ordinary burgers/chicken/fries/etc. The issue is that it's so fucking calorie dense. A McDouble, ~150g of food, is in the neighborhood of 500 calories by itself. Hardly a filling meal for an adult, but it's ~25% of the recommended caloric intake for most males. On top of that, it's $1.25 (I think, I don't actually know the price of a McDouble, but I know it's in that ballpark).

>>2052736
>everyone is fat in America because of calorie syrup

Holy shit. I didn't think you people actually existed.

>>2052755
>In terms of calories per dollars
Kek. There is 100 calories in 100g of rice, just how expensive do you think rice is? You can get 1 pound of rice for 1 dollar, according to google. And one pound of rice = 453 grams. That's over 400 grams of calories, for almost the same price.

It's also healthier, you are a literal retard, you spend money on things which are needed, that is why you are poor. How much have you spent on food on this week alone, via eating out? If you do 10 bucks a day, which let's be real, is very conservative, by 7 for a week. by 52 for a year thats ~$3500, in unhealthy shit - which is most likely killing you.

You are poor because you are an idiot. Pretty fucking simple.

>>2052809
>things which are not needed
fix'd.

>>2052809
Calories aren't measured in grams fampai. Calories are a measurement.

>>2052819
Where did I say it was? Kek, 100g of calories in 100g of rice, is a literal measurement.

Kek.

>>2052809
>>everyone is fat in America because of calorie syrup
that's not what I said

>>2052827
>100g of calories
You just did it again.

>>2052833
That is a unit of measurement, not a measurement?

>>2052839
You don't measure calories in grams. Calories are a unit of measurement, but you keep measuring them in grams. I'm trying to help you not look stupid, but you keep doing it.

>>2052841
yeah but 100g of calories in 100g of rice is still a measurement, wrong, but it's a literal measurement.

Calories are a unit of measurement, not a measurement itself. >>2052841
>Calories are a unit of measurement, but you keep measuring them in grams

Is what you want to say.

Calories are a measurement means literally nothing.

>I'm trying to help you not look stupid, but you keep doing it.
Sure, way to argue semantics, and not the point.

Good on you.

>>2052849
I'm not the person you were arguing with and you're digging yourself deeper into the stupid hole.

>>2052855
I am literally correct though and wrong. Unless of course you think calories is a measurement itself, not a unit of said measurements.

>>2050379

It is the corn

Eurofag here.

I am no doctor, but based on my personal experience and knowing a few americans, I d blame soda. Many americans that I know drink soda instead of water, also during meals.

I am 184 cm, 74 kgs, I eat whatever the fuck I want, but I never drink soda, never.

>>2050470
Fucking this. When I was unemployed and only my GF worked I used to cook. Now we both work 40+ hours a week. I can't be arsed to cook when I get home so we order foods. I gained 5 pounds since then. The extra money you have to buy delicious things doesn't help either.

>>2052849

>yeah but 100g of calories in 100g of rice is

But how many km/h are in the grams of calories?

>>2052863
fucking aussies
kill yourself

>>2050379
Food is cheap
Work is not physically intense
Culture sees eating as fun affair

Similar to many other western and rich nations.

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>>2050470
For the calorie ratio, McDonald's is a hell of a lot cheaper. Further, ghettos don't have many grocery stores (not enough big spenders and too many shoplifters), and the few that do open up, mark up their prices for those same aforementioned reasons. This is why extremely poor areas such as parts of Long Beach, south central LA, and Detroit, etc are referred to as "food deserts".

Fast food franchises have no such issues.

There's also the issue that nutritious food tends to be more volatile than processed food. It goes bad quickly if you don't eat it, and with the nearest grocery stores often so far away, a lot of poor ghetto families only shop once or twice a month.

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>>2052809
You can also starve to death eating rice. Unlike ating burgers, it provides almost nothing but light carbs. The protein it does provide doesn't absorb properly, unless there's something else for it to bond with, which is why you always put meat and/or veggies in that shit, and no one eats straight rice for a meal. Said meat and veggies are extremely perishable and/or expensive, and thus difficult for the extremely destitute to acquire in ghettos with few produce outlets.

Not that the poor don't eat a lot of rice too, but I suppose the thought of blender'ing up a burger and tossing into the rice cooker with the rice to stretch it out hasn't caught on.

There's also this odd cultural thing in America, that only Asians are supposed to have rice cookers. Uncle Ben's may keep, but it isn't as cheap and is even less nutritious, in addition to tasting like ass.

Sugar industry lobbying in the 1970s.

Also doesn't help that the wheat industry - the largest in the world - has managed to push itself to the top of the USDA's pyramid - wheat and corn being in basically everything.

Wheat is basically poison if you're also sedentary, which, of course, most Americans are.

>>2050673
How so?

Looks like the natives will finally win the war and corn was their secret weapon all along.

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>be registered dietitian
>this thread

Why isn't this thread on /int/ ?

>>2050379
>>2050432
Low calorie but nutrient packed foods with fiber and protein for satiation such as fruits and vegetable groups have short shelf-life.

Processed foods with preservatives not only provide more caloric energy, but you can buy more calories vs fruits and vegetables and the shelf-life can last for months. This allows a larger stock and resource storage of the supposedly "unhealthy" foods. (too much of anything is unhealthy, even water as you need sodium to balance it out in cells)

>fruits/vegetables: low calorie + short-lifespan = weekly shopping excursions expensive $$$

>Processed/preservative foods: high calorie + monthly expiration dates = cheap costs and satiation. larger reserves compared to their base ingredients

Basic consumerism really. You can also trace bad eating habits which stems into the nurture argument, not nature nor genetics which most blame today. Also those foods are packed with delicious fats and carbs, we gain euphoria from "comfort" food chemically in our brain so it only further perpetuates the cycle. So an eating high so to speak abusing meals that would be considered luxurious in prehistoric times.

>>2054694
If you truly are understanding of the issue, can you explain rather than mock and thus not contribute? While this thread is bait, nobody enters serious threads anymore. If you want to truly enlighten those who are misguided, these threads are the best way to do so due to their inflammatory nature. There are people seriously wondering why here, basic calorie counting isn't even part of the curriculum in grade school neither.

>>2050451
Saw some burgers on /fit/ telling they lost like 10-20lbs by just cutting out soda. But it can't be only that. Had a lot of friends going to the states for a semester and coming back chubby. Even my sister gained like 10lbs over there, and she was so thin that doctors asked her if she had bullimia all the time because she just didn't give a shit about food.

>>2054836
>There are people seriously wondering why here, basic calorie counting isn't even part of the curriculum in grade school neither.

There is some in health classes, but the subject is mostly left to parents. Some parents don't want the government to mandate food education (look at the massive backlash Michelle Obama got for trying to stop fat kids being fat). Some parents are just too poor to give kids a full diet, some parents don't see it as a problem. In my experience most people are just ignorant to the harm being obese brings, that or they say so what I want to enjoy life and who cares if i die earlier. Sometimes when confronted with the fact that their children will also die earlier because they follow the parents example, they change their ways. I feel like they are smoking addicts. Will this one cig (or steak) kill me? Of course not, but they keep kicking the can and it adds up til you have diabetes, or hypertension.

>>2055017
As far as things that are commonly ingested, sodas are probably about the most evil thing ever invented. They literally have so much sugar packed into them that they'd make you puke, if not for the phosphate and shit they put in there to prevent it, and pretty much only have negative nutrition value (they even dehydrate you).

...and then there's the diet shit, which has no sugar, but is actually designed to make it impossible to properly process any sugar or carbs you do ingest, making you fatter quicker. (As The Divine Emperor of Mankind says, "You never see a skinny person drinking a diet soda." for a reason.) Nevermind all the chemical consequences involved for most folks, who drink them like water, when they are only gauged as "safe" for 16oz a day.

And only in America will you find 32oz sodas defined as "medium", and have readily available 64oz ones at every gas station.

Just about everyone gains weight on vacation though, regardless of where they go, as a big part of traveling is trying all the new fangled food and breaking regimens.

Physical fitness is seen as a negative thing, and fat acceptance is ever growing.

>>2052759
4 calories per gram of protein, 4 calories per gram of carbs, and 9 calories per gram of fat. a 150g sandwich having 500 calories is pretty fucking normal you idiot.

>>2055017
If you read the food labels on anything in a grocery store, unless it is specifically marked organic, no corn syrup, no additives, no preservatives and non-gmo, then it is guaranteed to packed with bullshit additives, chemicals, and stuff that is bad for you.

>>2055017
I actually haven't drunk any soda for like four months now. I don't notice any changes but that might be because i'm young. I just don't want to get fat when i'm 40/50. Think I can start letting myself go at 60.

>>2056071

Well cutting soda out wont improve things if you're consuming too many calories another way.

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>>2051010
>dude we're so different! They have Biggie, we have 2pac XDD

When will this meme end?

>>2050379
Poor people eat shit food. Shit food causes obesety. Yet another blessing of the free market.

>>2056133
It's still better than no food

>>2050379
You jealous we got more food than your piss ass country does?

>>2050379
Corn syrup.

>>2055514
>Physical fitness is seen as a negative thing
Take a guess as to how I know you don't live in the US.

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>>2056329

Go on

>>2056354
>some half assed argument using blog world as evidence
Thanks for proving my point even further. Aside from poorer areas of this country which aren't even 100% for obesity, fitness is very much idolized here.

>>2050567
Yes it does.

>>2056179

>hurr

>>2056424
NTG, but I'd say it is in the blue zones (particularly here in Commiefornia). But having also lived in Texas and Tennessee, I can in say that in such places and the rural areas, healthy eating and exercise is kinda look down upon as liberal hippie talk.

>>2056424

>is shown what he asks for
>n-not that

>>2050379

If you don't understand how fat people get fat, then you're probably a fat person.

> this thread
>one day later

Holy shit, fat people never fail to astound me. I finally get it, you are fat because the gubberment.

>>2056849
It's a gommunist plot! The free market will fix it!

>>2050379
>How did it happen?

We consume far more calories than we burn. It's pretty simple.

>be European
>immigrate to America in my 20s
>INSTANTLY started gaining weight like a motherfucker even though I'm not eating more

There has to be something about that fucking food.