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Why does /his/ hate him?
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>>2046198
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>>2046198
Because people keep making threads about him every goddamn day
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>>2046198
He's incredibly biased
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>>2046202
what
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>>2046206
he's spooked out the wazoo
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>>2046203
they do it because they want you to hate him

it's a meme thing
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>>2046205
Care to elaborate?
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>>2046228
it's a buzzword, don't take it seriously
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>>2046198
Because he destroys their naive eurocentric, androcentric view of history.
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>>2046205
...like almost every single historian ever?
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>>2046260
I don't know if he completely destroys eurocentric views

Most of what he touches tend to be the western path of history, he tries to deviate but he doesn't succeed to often.
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>>2046260
>implying Europe and east Asia aren't the only relevant regions in all of human history and prehistory
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>>2046390
This
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>>2046260
>any nonliberal opinion is eurocentric and androcentric
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>>2046390
>What are Persians?
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>>2046428
Persia is in Europe you retard
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>>2046433
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>>2046428
The Arabian and Muslim world is European, though they technically are on Asia.
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>>2046198
Because his material isn't made for people interested the subjects he is going over. They are quick overviews of history for people in high school which is fine. But people here scrutinize him like he is serious historian.
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>>2046198
muh Alexander
muh Human Geography
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>>2046471
It's one thing to "Scrutinize" him too much, it's another one when what he says is wrong on the surface.
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>>2046198
He's a cuck.
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>>2046662
Well I mean sometimes he is plainly wrong, but that is expected when doing high-school history and keeping the material simple.
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>>2046662
Provide an example.
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>>2046433
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>>2046725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRYzW3BSj0I
in this video, Green says that the HRE was not holy, nor roman, nor an empire, but in fact the emperor was crowned by the pope making it holy, was the continuation of the roman empire therefore roman, and consisted of many states of varying culture and ethnicity, making it an empire.
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>>2046767
That's the only thing you can find that he said that was untrue?

I'm beginning to think there is nothing wrong with this guy and it's just a /pol/ meme because of "muh liberals"
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>>2046874
>an example
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>>2046198
His fucking voice.
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>>2046433
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>>2046198
It just annoys me that there aren't any more channels like his only without the agenda. I mean there are some but it's mostly just a guy talking to the camera for 40 minutes.
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>>2046904
what agenda?
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>>2046874
It's a joke you fucking faggot.

>>2046725
Literally his most used meme "Except for the mongols" is wrong basically every time he says it.

In fact I defy you to name me a time he uses it where it's not wrong.
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>>2046433
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>>2046910
Being the same as any other modern textbook. Safe, pc and not free of actual historical myths and mistakes.
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He thinks Macedonian success was due to the "invention" of the sarissa when really it was due to the training needed for the phalanx formation.
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>>2046767
>was the continuation of the roman empire therefore roman
An argument can be made for Charlemagne but Otto's empire was anything but Roman.
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>>2046931

i think it's the point, though. like the whole thing was originally made with AP World History in mind.
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>>2046911
I don't watch his videos, what does he say about the Mongols that's wrong?
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>>2046198
Says that much of what westerners know about history in the west is very Eurocentric (not wrong) whilst adding many of his own biases in his own limited interpretations. John would fit right in here at /his/.
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>>2046948
They're the only ones to invade Russia successfully, they build great cities while simultaneously being nomads which no other nation has ever done, the mongols are the only nomads who never settled into cities (And of course the corollary that the mongols never settled into cities), the persian empire became the model for all land based empires except for the mongols (WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?), and so on and so forth.
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>>2046993
>They're the only ones to invade Russia successfully
If he means ALL of Russia inside a few generations he's right, but that's moving the goalposts.
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>>2046198
I dislike him because his numale cuckery tend to ooze on the subject material he discussing. To paraphrase: "sorry ladies, world history will have very few roasties to talk about. The paterachy strike again". Instead of just saying world history is quick summation of three years of the written record.

I swear there is nothing more cringy then watching mr. white guilt on display.
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>>2046433
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>>2046433
Wew lad
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>>2046433
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>>2046198
He's an idiot.
>the original Rus weren't scandinavians because Russians don't speak a scandinavian language
Wow that's some great reasoning
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>>2046874
He also said the Jews had no hand in Jesus' execution and wastes all of his Alexander the Great video to complain that the title "The Great" is sexist despite some women like Catherine receiving that title.
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>>2046433
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>>2046198
STOP MAKING THESE THREADS, DAY AFTER DAY
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>>2047042
>Woman hosts the worst Crash Course they've ever made (IE: The Human Geography)
>John Green has to apologies and needs to white knight her as not responsible for comparing Diamond's writing to racist 19th century thought
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>>2046874
>asks for example
>gets an example
no way of satisfying your kind, right?
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>>2046433
I think you mean asia
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>>2046198
He's only interested in history as a vehicle to talk about how western white guys oppressed everyone else. He doesn't actually give a single fuck about the subject beyond that.
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I hate people who think they're funny but they're very obviously not
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Is John Green a historian? I'm confused.
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>>2047225
Are there any copies of the human geo vidoes? They were deleted off his channel and I want to see how bad they were.
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>>2048264
https://youtu.be/9mGvZXvRNLs
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>>2048264
Sargon covered it in one of his videos, you can just skip around his commentary if it's not your thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvaRcDvGPck
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>>2046205
you misplaced based
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>>2047209
that "the Great" one is the one that triggered me the most. blatant cherrypicking to drum up clicks and outrage.
>yfw Green himself could be considered sexist for ignoring Catherine's title
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>>2048572
She isn't even the only one.

>Queen Tamar of Georgia don't real, Saint Gertrude don't real, Margrethe I of Denmark don't real

Margrethe I really bothers me the most here since in the 14th fucking century managed to be such a great ruler that the Swedes explicitly didn't want a king of their own.
That wasn't the case through the entirety of the rest of the Kalmar union.
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>>2046198
I don't hate him for his history, I hate him because whenever he talks about subjects outside of history its like he thinks he has the final words on the matter, and his "nerdfighters" just eat that up. He made a crappy book too. Also, pic related.
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>>2046198
I don't hate him, or agree with him too much, but people really exaggerate how bad he is.

Pop-historians aren't subject to peer review, and if you explain to a normal person where his biases are, they will generally agree with you.
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>>2046433
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>>2046433

Are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>2046198
>>>/lit/
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>>2046390
*Europe, asia, the middle east, and central and south america

Really, just "everywhere but north america, Australia, and subsahran africa"
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>>2048628
>a crappy book
>a
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>>2049444
>south america
>relevant to human history
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>>2046433
Wrong
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>>2046198
Fuck, isn't him a shitty teen book writer? Screw him
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>>2046198
Episcopalian scum
Also he writes boring YA stuff
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>>2046198
>the greeks were incredibly evil, almost as bad as christopher columbus or hitler!
>those gentle and kind persians didn't mean any harm!
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>>2048465
This video seems fine to me. You must be a triggered /pol/ack
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>>2046198
John "Dicks in your cereal are G-r-reat!" Green
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>>2048465
>>2048472
>"I think part of me knows that there would be less uproar if it was coming form a middle-aged white man."

>"2. I think people aren’t used to seeing young women as credible sources of information, even when they are. I think if it was me saying those words, there would be pushback, but not anything like we’re seeing. But I also don’t think we’re going to move past that mindset by never giving young women a chance to be the purveyor of credible information. We picked Miriam because she knows what she’s talking about and she’s comfortable in front of the camera.

>"3. I think it’s weird how defensive and angry people have gotten, and that’s likely about the anchors a people have formed around discussions privilege and prejudice. We had the same thing happen when discussing how language can be dangerous in both overt and subtle ways on CC Philosophy. There’s just a lot of tension and frustration and even anger about that stuff right now."

How can someone shill this hard for someone who is clearly in the wrong?
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>>2049444
I'll only give you Europe, East Asia and Western Asia with the inclusion of Egypt. Anything else and you're going full retard.
>south america
Absolutely hilarious.
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>>2049776
That's an ad hominem
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Thinks China is the savior of Africa

Called Guns, Germs and Steel eurocentric

Outright took a shit on everybody who loves to study battles

Constantly harps on the damages of colonialism while promoting the Mongols as a funny cartoon mascot for his youtube channel
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>>2046433
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>>2051866
What I've seen of him coupled with the fact that he is a teen book writer pretty much points to the conclusion that he consciously markets everything he does for impressionable teenage girls to further his personal brand. There's quite a number of right-wing historians warping history to fit their own stupid views and agendas so it's not that much of a mortal sin.
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>>2046433
>2046433
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>>2051873
>Thinks China is the savior of Africa
What?
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>>2046205
Literally all history is biased, Freshman. Once you get past survey-level classes that rely on textbooks you'll discover that virtually everything you know about history is somebody's opinion.
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>>2046202
>if you do not reply to this post, your mother will be spooked in her sleep tonight
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>>2046433
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>>2051873
Only libcucks think China isnt bringing Africa out of the stone age and reducing their dependence on the geopolitical equivalent of food stamps
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>>2046433
I made you a visual aid
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>>2046433
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>>2046198
Because he gets more pussy than the average 4chin user.
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because he claims to be nonbiased, yet constantly asserts our current position at "the end of history" or that we're somehow post-ideological which is really the most ideological thing someone can say. he's a pure capitalist, neoliberal shill who deserves to go to the trash
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>>2046198

Brings idpol into discussions of history. For example, when he was talking about African kingdoms and city states he'd constantly talk about how colonials would treat them AND post colonial attitudes somehow shape our society.

What could have been an interesting talk, turned into a liberal lecture
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>>2046433

/his/ needs flags so we can all be prepared for leafposting
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>>2052318

His laptop has a sticker that says "This machine kills fascists" on it.

Don't expect a lot, boyo.
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>>2046433
Put me in the screencap
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>>2053581
He's a fucking white male.
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>THIS
>MACHINE
>KILLS
>FASCISTS
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>>2046433
>low-tier bait
>gets a million (you)'s
>probably gonna be a screencap
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>>2046198
Is it easier to bait people with John Green or questions about Africa?
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>>2054080
>hurr but John Green is in africa
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>>2054080

Africa. Or black people in general
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>>2048628
That's the whole point of being a pop-intellectual. you are mediocre in what you practice and spend most of your time talking about things outside your area of expertise as authority to push an agenda.

Just look at Chomsky and Zizik. Hell even people like bill nye or black science man.
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>>2054093

I like Zizek tho
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>>2054096
Then you need to get your shit together.
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>>2054101

INTO THE TRASH CAN OF IDEOLOGY YOU GO
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>>2046260
HE IS FUCKING EUROCENTRIC. HE SEES THE WORLD FROM AN ENTIRELY WESTERN PERSPECTIVE BUT SPRINKLES IN FACTS ABOUT OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD BUT HE TREATS THEM LIKE THEY'RE JUST AN ACCESSORY TO WESTERN HISTORY.
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>>2054105
Bro how many ideology are you on right now? i'm on like 2 or 3 right now my dude
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>>2054113

YOU ARE LITTLE BABY, WATCH THISCH

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sTzANl_BYg0
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>>2054113
(((sniff)))
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>>2054128

Zizeks not a Jew, m8
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>>2054170
(((sniffs))) what is this jew? It is nothing but ideology and dildos.
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>>2050281
Greek were pieces of shit.

>Greeks in Anatolia revolt because they're naturally shit disloyal subjects
>Athens supports the revolt with funds and troops, burning the capital of that Satrap to the ground

Greeks gud bois, din du nuffin.
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>>2054184
It's almost as if having a massive imperialist power's presence on your shores is threatening, huh. Fuck those white people though, the natives had every right to revolt!
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>>2052318
China is investing infrastructure into African nations.

Going by one documentary though it looks like its money wasted due to the incompetence of the natives.
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>>2054187
>Athens invading modern day Turkey and burning down a Persian city is a defensive act

You really dont know the cause of the Persian Wars do you?
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>>2054188
it's neo-colonialism.
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here it is
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>>2054188

There are African countries that are doing fine/ developing without the Chinese. Botswana and Namibia for instance
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>>2054239
wow someone doesn't know their geography better give them 30 (you)s and posting laughing image reactions.
cunts
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>>2046198
I don't hate him. I think his history series accomplishes its own goals, gives teens and young adults a good overview of historical topics, and provides avenues for further investigation. I was in college when the first series was running, and it was honestly the catalyst for me to commit to a Middle Eastern History degree. There were a lot of points he brought up regarding the early Islamic empires that I hadn't thought of before and wanted to learn more, so I took a few classes and ended up with a degree in it.

Yeah, he's got a pretty strong liberal bias, but that's a known quantity. Importantly, he has the courtesy to acknowledge counter-arguments and where his own theories might be lacking. That's part of the reason I was so pissed with the Human Geography series, because it came right out of the gate making wild accusations and not really recognizing alternate viewpoints.
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Becaus /lit/ likes him
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>>2046433
PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP
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>>2046205
This is the truth that you can't deny.
>>2052342
>Using indoctrination to prove someone who is indoctrinated is correct
okay kid
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>>2046390
What the hell do you mean by "relevant"

All history can expand our understanding of human behaviour and development. For example, by studying the history of sub-saharan africa we can see that city-states and kingdoms can form even in hostile tropical environments and that "blacks" aren't inherently inferior to other """""""""races""""""""".
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>>2054395
Someone's mad they didn't make it into the screencap.
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>>2054106
>implying other places haven't always been an accessory to western history
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>>2046433
Nice aim
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>>2054395

t. persia is in europe guy
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>>2055001

t. eurocentrist
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>>2052342
He doesn't even try to temper his bias and makes entry level mistakes like applying narratives to some societies yet completely ignoring similar events that would lead to a very similar narrative of another society. In other words he impresses white male guilt into everything.
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>>2046904
This.
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>>2046198
Because he's a filthy cuck.
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>>2057795
Not an argument.
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>>2046433
PUT ME IN THE SCREENCAP
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>>2047225
>John Green has to apologies and needs to white knight her
WOMEN ARE CHILDREN THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED REEEEE
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>>2046433
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>>2046433
>t. Khosrau
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>>2046956
>much of what westerners know about history in the west is very Eurocentric

>european history is eurocentric
>european historians wrote from a eurocentric perspective

the fuck else would it be, afrocentric?
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>>2051866

he does write YA shlock though, thats accurate.
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>>2059706
My god who is she
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>>2054029

that fucking sticker triggers me every time, what the fuck does he even mean by that, did his laptop get used to bludgeon blackshirts to death in the 40's?
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>>2047225

>Human Geography
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>>2048628

the way to blow him the fuck out on this is to ask why does it him so much that promiscuity might not be something that other people find attractive?
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>>2046198
Because he is fucking super hot chicks and basically you are fucking stupid
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>>2046198
In order to engage with high-school children (his target demographic) you sometimes need to teach like one. This upsets autists because in their narrow view only pure unfiltered history is allowed (except for retarded memes of course) even though the majority of people interested need to make great strides to make sense of it. Ergo, stepping stone-tier education like OPs pic.
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Daily reminder that 'the Great' was a misogynistic title.

Catherine the Great doesn't count because people said mean things about her, something that never happened to male monarchs ever.
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>>2046433
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At least lindybeige could be a decent top gear host. Except that he would non ironically hate muscle cars while masturbating on a v8 f-type and complain about the lack of a manual transmission.
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>>2046198
who's this faggot
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>>2059999
What wasted quads.. Also you're autistic if you think this. Every "the great" had enemies which said mean things about their opponent. Just because it also happened to Catherine as well and it hurts your ickle little feelings doesn't make your point true.
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>>2046433
>/his/ - History & Humanities
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>>2060048
That's the joke retard, HE said that in a video (hence the epic meme pic) and I'm parodying him.

My quads are NEVER wasted.
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>>2060073
Wouldn't catch the joke then anon. I stopped watching his swill after the first few episodes. I never got to Catherine the Great.
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>>2059756
Saylor Twift
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>>2058817

not an argument.
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>>2060156
How am I supposed to provide an argument towards something that is not an argument in the first place you bloody muppet?
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>>2060291

Well that's not really an argument, now is it?
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>>2060298
No, it isn't. It's a question, you illiterate twit.
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>>2046433
*inhales*
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He clearly met someone like Alaska or that girl from his other book, Paper Towns. This makes us alike, but it depresses me that he decided to become a milquetoast liberal.

He lacks the intellectual honesty to look at group evolutionary pressures or mention anything truly controversial. He doesn't seem to realise that he exists in a cuck cage, which makes it more depressing.

There are things I like about Greene. I think part of him is really trying to be a good man, but his definition of good seems to be 'agreeable' and safe, rather than strong, inspirational, dedicated to truth...
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>>2060301

Not a question.
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>>2046433
INCLUDE ME IN THE SCREENCAP
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>>2046198
>Believes the armenian genocide happend
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