Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded his empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for him. — Napoleon Bonaparte
All memes and redpill aside, do you think love and faith can prevail in this modern society, if one man can make such a profound impact on pure love why cant we all......
He may have founded his empire on love, but it sure as fuck didn't spread that way.
>>2040454
Wasnt it through spread through missionaries, and martyrs? and progressiveness spread through the roman empire in such ways, but if it wasnt spread through love how you say, then how how was it spread? In your opinion?
>>2040472
Violence and conquest.
>>2040488
can i have sources and evidence for that?
>>2040527
You've heard of the Crusades before, right?
>>2040541
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're baiting rn, the crusades were a near defensive acction taken due to muslim agression. for centuries, and even before the first crusade, christianity was already well established friendo
Jesus never existed.
>>2040568
nice meme
>>2040569
That's what Peter said to Paul when the latter said, "No, really dude, that Jesus guy appears in my dreams every night, but no-one has ever actually met him."
>>2040527
>>2040553
>the Roman Empire declaring Christianity a state religion and violently persecuting non-Christians
>conquest and forced conversion of the Americas and indigenous peoples of South and Central America and the Caribbean
>conquest and forced conversion of the Philippines and other colonies in Asia
>conquest and forced conversion of the Northern Europeans and the Baltics
>Northern Crusades and Teutonic Knights
>massacre of the Anglo-Saxons and their forced conversion into Christianity
you get the idea
>>2040652
Ok, so you're just baiting.
>the Roman Empire declaring Christianity a state religion and violently persecuting non-Christians
Romans did this to heathens were they Hellenic or Christian, ever read about christina martyrdom?
>conquest and forced conversion of the Americas and indigenous peoples of South and Central America and the Caribbean
>conquest and forced conversion of the Philippines and other colonies in Asia
Fair i'll give you this one.
>conquest and forced conversion of the Northern Europeans and the Baltics
Yeah, no. It was merely not even religious. Lithuanians were aggressive towards poles and they reguested aid, and it did happen that they could leverage the religous heads since lithuanians were pagans. Other than that, northern crusades are just memes. Finland was converted mostly with contact to novgorodians and Swedes only came as conquerors.
>massacre of the Anglo-Saxons and their forced conversion into Christianity
Yes, these indigeneous pagans were truly peaceful and only minded their own business.
>>2040680
>Romans did this to heathens were they Hellenic or Christian, ever read about christina martyrdom?
Later Christian propaganda not supported by contemporary sources.
If you reply with the word 'Tacitus' I'm going to have to point and laugh.
>>2040708
>Tacitus.
>>2040717
Ha ha!
>>2040768
Well you did it. Feel better now?
>>2040680
So... What is here about love? Eye for an eye was known thousands years before Christ. The Empire that is founded on symmetric violence is based on the violence anyway.
>>2040680
>Romans did this to heathens were they Hellenic or Christian
yes which is primarily why the West and the Mediterranean as we know it is Christian and has been so historically - violent state imposition of faith and persecution of nonbelievers.
First the late Romans, then the Church and various kingdoms and principalities.
>Fair i'll give you this one.
no shit you'll give me this one.
All of Latin America says hello - Latinized and Christianized violently and forcefully by Christian conquerors
>northern crusades are just memes
The Teutonic Knights, the Catholic Church archives, academic consensus, and reality seem to disagree.