How can we rank the Allies in importance of their roles in at

>>2037617
>UK over USA

>>2037617
Ranking is a clickbait methodology that assumes qualitative aspects can be directly compared.

This thread will devolve into spook confirmation and /int/ faggotry right after this post.

>>2037620
That was actually my greatest doubt.

>>2037626
>qualitative aspects can be directly compared.
They can. There's only one true. Always.

>>2037617
1. Russia
2. UK and USA
3. Poland
4. China
5. Commonwealth
6. France

>>2037617
Put Polan inbetween Chinks and France

>>2037617
>Australia over Canada
What the fuck did Australia even contribute

USSR put the bulk of the cannon fodder and USA the industrial manpower, then comes the British Empire and China and after that resistence movements

The essentially solo-carried the entire empire of Japan.They also contributed just as much or more than the UK on the western and African fronts.The UK played an important role in not giving up though.They're refusal to capitulate even in the face of Dunkirk and the battle of Britain kept the war going.

>>2037617
Yuro Theater

>USSR
>USA
>UK
>Poland
>Canada
>Free French

>>2037617
1.Russia
2.China
3.USA
4.UK
5.Poland
6.Australia
7.Canada
8.France

>>2037650
Tobruk
Kokoda

What did canucks do?

>>2037681
>Canada

How many soldiers did they've fielded? How many have died? Wiki would suggest even Yugos would outweight their accomplishments.

>>2037617
>ussr
>us
>uk
>china
>france
>yugoslavia
>poland
>greece

>>2037694
Juno Beach
Ortona
Trained the vast majority of Allied aircrews

>>2037682
>china
>number two

Retard alert.

>>2037698
accomplishments > numbers

>>2037792
Yugos kicked out Hakenkreuz by themselves, what did Canada do?

>>2037650
they had the longest arrows

>>2037993
>yugos kicked out reserve, 2nd rate German soldiers

compared to invading Normandy, helping the Poles take the Falaise Gap, liberating Belgium and the Netherlands

>>2037708
desu this is probably the best so far, though i'd throw canada and straya on right before yugoslavia

>>2037717
China killed the majority of the Japanese forces. Still, the US also fought in

I'd say it was
1. USSR
2. USA
3. UK/China
4. Irrelevant

>>2038239
Actually China did not kill the majority of the Japanese troops. 2 million Japanese soldiers died in both the Second Sino-Japanese War and WW2 combined. China only inflicted 500,000 casualties.

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>>2037620
It's how we can tell OP is a britbong

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>>2037637
>3. Poland

>>2037637
>>2037708
actually sensible rankings

>>2038401
why are americans so retarded

>>2038411
Are you denying that?

>>2037617
1. Canada
2. New Zealand
3. Australia
4. UK
5. France

>>2037617
The following is objectively correct

1. USSR
2. USA
3. UK
4. Poland
5. France and China
6. Canada and Greece
7. Yugoslavia
8. ANZAC and India
9. South Africa
10. Norway
11. Philippines and Brazil
12. Belgium
13. Czechoslovakia
14. Denmark

>>2037708
Yugo is last

>>2038448
I'd say france did a bit more than poland

>>2038455
>I'd say france did a bit more than poland
Prove it then.

>>2038455
Wasn't it a Pole that cracked the Enigma code?

>>2038444
This

>>2038458
You gave no proof for your list, why should i give proof for mine?

>>2038459
people =/= the state itself

>>2038455
Poland had an armed, continuous and constant resistance and tied down significant german forces. Also the poles contributed to the Enigma codebreak

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>>2038474
>You gave no proof for your list, why should i give proof for mine?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Righteous_Among_the_Nations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBegota
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Jews_by_Poles_during_the_Holocaust
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_resistance_movement_in_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Intelligence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_contribution_to_World_War_II#Polish_Forces_.28West.29

Meanwhile in France:
>French women fuck German soldiers
>French are outstanding citizens of the Third Reich
>no Partisan activities worth noticing happen
>Jews are sold to Germans

>>2038465
HOCKEY STRONK

>>2038497
fair enough, i suppose

though, one thing that bugs me

>French women fuck German soldiers
these women were publicly humiliated and shamed afterwards, they were seen as traitors. they were by no means the norm

>>2037637

>Poland

Fucking India was more useful

>>2037708

>France

Why?

Not talking shit, just curious

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>>2038436
Poland was crushed in little over a month and barely put a dent into the German war machine, even less when they were revived by the Soviets. And don't even get me started about the "resistance", they objectively made things worse.

>>2038411
>>2038584
Poles are deluded faggots who think that getting conquered in a month is cool because France did as bad as them

>>2038497
Why are Poles so butthurt toward France?
Countless times I've seen Poles wantonly shit on France aboput WW2 in a pathetic attempt to make their shitty performance look any less miserable

You're truly a pathetic people, and while I agree that France was shit in that war, I still respectthem thousands time more than you, be it only because they dont share your ridiculous attitude of self-importance in war in which you were less than dogshit

>>2038444
This and only this

>>2038541
even for a french it's strange (too much much banter on us)

>>2038541
even for a french it's strange (too much banter on us)

>>2038584
War only started for Poland in 1939.

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>>2038507
>they were by no means the norm

They were mostly prostitutes doing their job
German soldiers weren't allowed to have sex with local women except for high officer
The text the butthurt pole posted was literally made by himself on MS Word

>>2038541
Inflicted 150,000 casuatlies to Germany in 1940
Meanwhile pathetic Poles inflicted them less than 60,000
How can Poland be so shit?

>>2037617
1.USSR
power gap
----------------
2. WHO cares tier contribution

>>2038654
Fuck off vatnik

1. Rothschilds.

>>2038625
because French try to shit on Poland whenever WW2 is mentioned.

It's often combined with uneducated remarks and insults.

>>2038965
I've always seen Poles start the shit (like in this thread)

>>2037617
>UK that high
>Australia even on the fucking list

>>2038584
Thanks for the input Ivan

1. USA

USSR would have lost if it wasn't for USA.

>>2039001
this desu. The French never started any shit on the Poles, and before going to 4chan, I thought of them as bros, since Napoleon and shit. Well, my point of vue has changed quite a bit.

They are probably butthurt because we're a key NATO member eventhough we did ALMOST as bad as them in WWII (don't be delusionnal, Pole), but they forget that there is an history before WWII, and that we played a key role in it. Including in reestablishing their shithole.
Fucking hell we really should stop giving people their independance, we only get shit from Burgers and Poles wtf

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>>2038401

>>2037637
Fuck off, Polack

>>2038401
>Another country
GODDAMN JAMAIACAN NAVY STEALING THE GODDAMN SPOTLIGHT AGAIN

>>2038458
Poles routinely punched above their weight class. Polish pilots dominated during the Battle of Britian, Poles closed the Falaise Gap, had a real resistance movment at home and contributed more in the liberation of the Netherlands and Belgium

>>2038448
>France tied with China

Even if they didn't fight in Europe they did more than French.

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>>2038455
This >>2038486
Not only did the poles help break the german code but the Polish Home Army was the biggest resitance movment in Nazi Europe during the war.

They slowly tied a nose around germany's neck in the eastern front thanks to partisans disrupting german supplies and fed intellegance to both sides. True the army didn't do the majoirty of the work in the eastern front, seems we're all in agreement the USSR put in that work.

At the bare minimum least it's better than Charles "fuck anglo saxons" de gaulle, seriously dude was a prick considering his situation.

>>2039793
You forgot the worst part

>Poland above China

>>2037617
1. USSR
Did the heavy lifting in the fight against the Nazis. They help contributed to Japanese surrender.
2. USA
Did the most successful fighting in the Far East. They also opened the Western Front to divert Nazi's resources against the Soviet Union.
3. UK
Provides the platform from which the Allies could open up the Western Front. Also fought the Axis in Africa and frustrate the Japanese plans in South Asia.
4. China
Ties up a lot of Japanese troops in their own land, giving the U.S. some breathing room. Also helps U.K. in taking back Burma and help distract Japan from annexing Soviet territory.
5. Australia
They help the Allies both in Europe and in the Pacific region so I think they are more important than other commonwealth countries.
5. France
More like the Free French desu, they help in the Northern Africa front.

Honorable mentions for Poland but I don't know much about them lol

>>2039881
6*. France

7. Poland
Nvm, turns out that they contribute quite a lot in the war effort along with the Allies. Still unsure about how their resistance playing a role in Germany's defeat though.
8. Canada
They were important players in the battle of Atlantic and Juno beach. Also helped in the U.S. in the Pacific.

>australia is more important than India
how exactly?

>>2037617
1. USSR
2. USA
3. UK
4. China
5. France
6. Yugoslavia
7. Greece
8. Canada/Aus/NZ
9. Poland

>>2037694

>>2037714

Plus

Ran and protected the Atlantic convoys
Liberated most of the Netherlands in brutal as fuck conditions

>>2040524

And slaughtered in the thousands at Dieppe for "Educational purposes" for the Normandy Landings.

Italy was the Allies best ally.

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>>2037620
at least we took part for the whole thing.

>turn up halfway through and still think you can sit at the winners table

lol americans

>>2038449
>first liberated territory in Europe
>had two resistance movements
>largely liberated itself, Red Army was an afterthought

Certainly not last.

>>2037617
>people ranking Greece that low or not at all
First allied victory, plus kicking Italy's ass so hard that Germany had to delay operation Barbarossa to help its ally thus losing the war afterwards.

>Poland

Charging tanks on horses does not justify them being on any list

>>2040512
This

>>2037617
>>>/int/

>>2038497
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bir_Hakeim?wprov=sfla1
Free France participated in many battle in Italy and without it, D-Day wouldn't have been possible.

Also, the Vercors, the liberation of Paris, the liberation of most of French territory was made by the resistance. Beside this, the french colonial empire was still fighting against vichy France ( see the Libreville conference ) so yes, France was absolutely relevant durung WWII and that's why it was considered a winning power in 1945.

>>2037617
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Policemen
This is pretty much the most Important allies.

Everyone else is second fiddle or BTFO earlier.

>>2040616
>Participate the whole war
>Somehow manage to do less than the Americans who turned up halfway

Lol you cheeky wankers.

>>2040706
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262

>Raids from the direction of Coudehard managed to penetrate the Polish defences and take captives. The final German effort came at around 11:00—SS remnants had infiltrated through the wooded hills to the rear of the 1st Armoured Regiment's dressing station. This "suicidal" assault was defeated at point-blank range by the 9th Infantry Battalion with the 1st Armoured Regiment's tanks using their anti-aircraft machine guns in support.[6][58] The machine guns' tracer ammunition set fire to the grass, killing wounded German men on the slope.[59

>Stefanowicz, himself wounded during the day's fighting,[52] struck a fatalistic note as he addressed his four remaining officers: "Gentlemen, all is lost. I do not think that the Canadians can come to our rescue. We have only about 110 able-bodied men left. Five shells per gun and 50 bullets per man. That's very little, but fight all the same. Surrender to the S.S. is futile; you know that. I thank you. You have fought well. Good luck, gentlemen. Tonight we shall die for Poland and for civilization! . . . each tank will fight independently, and eventually each man for himself."[56]

>According to military historian Gregor Dallas: "The Poles had closed the Falaise Pocket. The Poles had opened the gate to Paris."[62] Simonds stated that he had "never seen such wholesale havoc in his life" and Canadian engineers erected a sign on Point 262N's summit reading simply "A Polish Battlefield.[6]

>In 1965 on the battle's 20th anniversary, a monument to the Polish, Canadian, American and French units that took part in the battle was erected on Hill 262.[63] Marking the occasion, former President of the United States Dwight D. Eisenhower commented that "no other battlefield presented such a horrible sight of death, hell, and total destruction."[64]

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>>2040772
>turn up to an island with ZERO japs
>still lose 300+

seppos get btfo by nothing

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>>2040616
How does it feel knowing that the french covered your retreat so you wankers can hide in your little island and be useless until the Americans joined kys britbong

USSR
USA
UK
*POWER GAP*
CHINA
*POWER GAP*
Everyone else

>>2037694
>what did canucks do?
butcher nazi soldiers to the point that the allies couldn't keep Canadians alone with the prisoners, because they kept "trying to escape" under Canadian supervision.

Still makes me chuckle when I see Denmark listed among the Allies.
We collaborated hardcore for the first 3 years or so until the tides turned in Russia. There was no resistance movement worth mentioning for the first three years of occupation.
Good PR and diplomacy got us counted among the Allies, not actually doing anything...

>>2037617
italy first

Without Ozzies, Poles, Kiwis and SAers in the RAF the Battle of Britian would have been lost. However on a per capita basis Russia and New Zealand did the most.

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>>2041019
>french
>amerijuans

both got raped by rice monkeys lol

>>2041395
Philippines weren't part of the US during the Vietnam war

>>2037617
>Poland
>Netherlands
>Norway
>Denmark
>Belgium
>Czechoslovakia
>Allies
shit list

was it worth it tho

>>2040706
lol the Poles and Canadians contributed more to the liberation of France than the French did

see
>>2040786

Middle East and Pacific. Operations base early in war, got bombed by Nips. Directly under threat unlike Canada

>>2041395
>26
kek

Do you have a whole folder to flame Americans?

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>>2040656
We will never forget

>>2038444
This is the only correct answer.

TOP TIER
>1. USSR
>2. USA
marginal power gap
>3. England

PUNCHING ABOVE THEIR WEIGHT CLASS TIER
>5. a.) Poland
>5. b.) Yugoslavia
>5. c.) Greece
Honorable mention: Czechoslovakia

DILIGENT ALLY TIER
6.) China
7.) Canada
8.) Australia

CAPABLE BUT UNDERPERFORMING ALLY
9.) France
10.) New Zealand

LET DOWN TIER
>11.) Norway
>12.) Belgium
>13.) Netherlands

SHIT TIER
>13.) Denmark
>14.) Brazilian Favela Monkeys

>>2040682
Retard

>>2037617
India is definitely the most important colony

>>2042685
POO

>>2038625
>>2038625
i'm not pole and i agree that poles did more in the war than the french

>>2039119
Not a /pol/, but here's how it looks from my perspective. You're a key NATO member because you didn't wind up getting sold out to the USSR, as Poland was. Being on the ass-end of Germany meant also that you were in an important position should the USSR ever decide to push into western Europe. Your history had jack shit to do with it.

>>2042710
>Not a Pole.

Though I'm not a /pol/ either.

>>2037617
1.Poland
2.US, Russia
3.Britain
4.China
5.Commonwealth
6.France

>>2042723
>Sweden not 1
fuck off

>>2037617
>France over Yugoslavia

>>2037617
Hmmm I'm slightly curious, what was China's importance to the war, I know that towards the end it was them and the Russians that pushed the nips off of mainland Asia but was there anything else?

>>2037617
>Russia
It was the Soviet Union, comprising several different states, not just Russia.

>>2037617
>China over anything

Chiang Kai-Shek was so utterly incompetent he might as well be considered an axis asset. He probably killed more Chinese people than the Japs ever did.

>>2037617
>tfw your country probably contributed more to the German war effort than it fought
t. Netherlands

s-sorry for being such an embrassment

>>2037617
USSR = USA >(Slightly) UK > India >>> Australia >> South Africa > New Zealand > Poland = France = Belgium = Netherlands >>> China

Why people always talk about Allies' relative importance but never about Axis' one? Let me start:
>1. Germany
>2. Japan
>3. Finland/Hungary/Romania
>4. Italy
>5. Bulgaria/Vichy France/Slovakia/Croatia
>6. Manchukuo/Thailand

>>2042969
I reckon Italy and Bulgaria could go one higher

>>2042789
Japan trying to conquer China was the reason why they had major steel and fuel shortages in the first place. Everything related to the Pacific War was related to Japan trying to conquer China.
China had a secondary role of preventing British India and Siberia from direct invasion by sucking up manpower and resources.

>>2042982
The problem with Bulgaria they refused to help Germany on Eastern front unlike other European Axis members. Even Franco's Spain helped more with their Blue Division.

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>>2042969
Pretty sure italy was the allies greatest secret weapon, or Germany was the worlds greatest babysitter not to sure really.

>>2042969
It's kind of hard to compare the Axis as a hole because the Pacific and European theaters were essentially completely separate. The Japanese and Germans had essentially zero collaboration in overall military strategy.

It was the Japanese vs the US, China, and some European colonial forces in the Pacific. In Europe, it was Germany and a few smaller powers including Italy fighting nearly all the Allies in Europe near the end.

>>2042961
Jealous and butthurt Indian.

>>2042961
Literally what did indians do that ranks them above all those other nations

>>2042961
lol/10

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>>2042961
>Poland = France = Belgium = Netherlands

>>2037617
Russia over USA, USA over UK

Others are nearly irrelevant

>>2037708
This

>>2040616
>I don't acknowledge the Asian theater: the post
If it weren't for Burma you'd be almost off the list.

>>2040682
You know the one instance they did that, it was a immobile crew(s) and the hussars won, right?

>>2042594
objectively correct, swap punching above their weight class with diligent allies tier though

>>2040937
>turn over about all possessions in asia to japan
>defend india with almost all locals
>leave australia to almost itself
brits should be embarrased.

>>2037617
1. USSR
2. U.S.A.
3. U.K.
4. France/French Resistance
5. Poland
6. Italy

>>2043345
forgot China, a majority of Japanese troops were fighting in mainland China for the duration of the war

>>2037617
> 1. Soviet Union
> 2. US (as a supplier mostly)
> 3. UK
> 4. Kingdom of Greece
> 5. Republic of Poland
> 6. France

>>2043396
>US (as a supplier mostly)

The US was the primary ally fighting the Japanese for most of the war. Nearly all island territory taken was accomplished entirely by US forces. Not to mention the atomic bombs that ended the conflict without an invasion of mainland Japan.

>>2041395

> "outdated" arms coming in unlimited quantity from the USSR and China

> Fighting a mostly guerrilla war and still getting a 10 to kill ratio

> Only left because the country itself was facing massive social, political and economic problems.

But of course, its all about those brave NLF who ceased to exist as an effective fighting force after 1968 :<).

That being said, North Vietnam was pretty justified in attacking the south given that the promised reunification referendum never happened.

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>>2043345
>Italy

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>ctrl+f "greece"
>only seven results

1 USSR
2 UK
3 Greece
4 USA
5 Canada
6 Australia

>>2043414
Yeah , Japan. The war started and could only end in Europe where American military presence was only because they did not wanted the Soviets getting all the German geniuses when they were marching to Berlin and that i why i said mainly as a supplier

>>2037617
1-URSS
2-UK
3-USA
4-China
5-India
6-France

>>2043443
>>2041995
We wont forget anon

>USSR
>US
>UK
>China
>Free france
>Brazil
>Yugoslavia/poland
>Philippines
>Dutch/Belgs/Danes

>>2037637
Ah yes, the glorious nation of "The Commonwealth". Truly, they will go down in history with other great nations, like the European Union and NATO.

1 - United States
Butthurt Nazis complain about two-front disadvantage....so murica showed them how it is done.
2 - Soviet Union
Did the dirty work for the allies, militarily speaking.
3 - United Kingdom - North Africa, Deffense of the island, D- day and so on.
4 - China
Suffered greatest casualties.
5 - Yugoslavia
First liberated territory in Europe. Only country in Europe that liberated itself. Suffered great casualties.Seriously underrated.
6 - Poland/France
Underground movements.

>>2043649
>Suffered greatest casualties.
That's Russia, even if they were fighting a civil war at the same time.

>>2043649
>american education
The Germans in WWI were fighting in their home territory and without any competent allies. Meanwhile Americans were fighting two fronts but away from their country meaning their population and industry was pretty ok. And also the Americans had a lot of competent allies on both fronts.

>USSR
>Anything but bullet sponges

>>2040616
>at least we took part for the whole thing.

As a Canadian whose proud of the achievements of Britain and the commonwealth in the war, don't be a jackass. You can't just claim you were more important to the defeat of the Axis because you participated longer, that's retard logic. Get your participation medal bullshit outta here.

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>>2043263
>>2043282
I mean I don't agree with the ranking, but its worth noting that that the Indian army in WW2 is the largest volunteer army in history, nearly 2.5 million men. I believe that Indians served in all theaters as well. I don't think that they should be that high, though I do think that they are often unfairly forgotten,

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>>2044245
I find India in WW2 to be interesting in general, especially the propaganda.

>>2043282
>largest volunteer army
>major part of the fighting in SEA done by indians
>CW's first win in WW2 is via indians
>East africa
>A large part of the early war in africa
>were present during the invasion of italy.
>Major logistics hub for the allies
They already did more than pretty much every other CW nation other than canada.

They were far more important to the war effort than poland.

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>>2044253
>point 6
>passed the vernacular press act

>this entire thread
>these mentions of French resistance
they wernt shit, and didn't do shit. incompetent on Italy tier levels

>>2044312
They were useful as hell for the invasion of europe

Put Greece in Resistance Tier

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>>2038411

There were more Polish troops fighting Germany then French.

The fact is that most of the French troops who evacuated to the UK after the Fall of France in 1940, VOLUNTARILY returned to France to sit out the war (all later claiming to have been in La Résistance) and wait for the Allies to liberate them (when they weren't volunteering for the Waffen SS....)

>>2044365
providing intelligence on German trenches doesnt put you above actual partisans routinely involved in direct action engagements with German forces

>>2044401
I guess all the brave french died in ww1

>>2038251
[Citation needed]

>>2042789
60% of Japan's war spending, majority of military casualties, and provided immense moral butthurt (which pushed America towards opposing the Japs).

>>2042864
You are gonna blame him for the 30 million slaughtered by the Japs?

>>2042961
>India

Hi Rajeet.

>>2043345
Where is China?

>>2043396
Where is China?

>>2043660
Incorrect

1) Soviet Union.

2) USA: Funded the allies both materially and agriculturally

3) China / Chinese Resistance: Never get enough credit, in my opinion. Forced the Japanese to keep the overwhelming majority of their army in China fighting rebels. Sabotaged Japanese supply lines during their Burma campaign, and overall was a massive distraction for the Japanese Empire. In my opinion, the Pacific theatre was basically 1/2 of the U.S. Armed forces vs the Entire RJN and RJA, but almost none of the army. After the disastrous Midway, Layette Gulf, and the Philippines Sea, it was simply a matter of how deep the Japanese could dig in to the highly dependable islands.Japan had like a 25% chance of winning after Pearl harbor, 10% chance of winning after Midway, and a 0% chance after the other ones. China made sure it was just Navy vs Amerifats.

4) Poland: Militarily was defeated in 3 weeks, but I shit you not: the greatest contribution of Poland was the sheer amounts of Jews and Poles that were gassed. It represented a huge risk factor for the Germans- the ghettos and camps were one spark away from riots, or in the case of Warsaw in '44, open rebellion.

5) France: Pierre did okay

6) Britain: Fuck these guys. The only reason we remember them at all is because they were still powerful enough after the war to paint themselves as a major fighter during it. The only major things they did were:

Protect the Suez canal (who's value during the war was dubious enough... the only thing you'd need it for is to protect India, and they only reason they needed India is because thats what kept Britain from destruction.

Gibraltar and Malta: Arguably the best thing they did: Kept the Mediterranean safe from Italian naval supremacy in the Atlantic; gave a BOI to Eisenhower during Operation Torch, and made the Italians and Germans divert a significant force to Sicily and eventually the gothic line in '44 and '45


In all honesty though, fuck Britain. Those niggers get too much credit.

>>2044573
China is pretty overhyped in their involvement and contribution towards Japanese defeat.

If you look at the numbers here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Army#Casualties
You can see that China only inflicted around 400,000 casualties against Japan. If you look at the other numbers, the US pretty much carried the Pacific Theater with around 500,000 casualties inflicted against the army plus another 400,000 deaths in the navy which you can probably all attribute to the US.

At best, China held down the IJA, but was probably not needed to win the war as the USN had already buttfucked the IJN to the point where they probably wouldn't have been able to transport those soldiers across the Pacific without getting sunk.

>>2037650
Oh you know fighting off the italians and germans in Africa, invading iran, French Syria, and fighting off the japanese who threatened to isolate us from the rest of the world

>>2037617
the fact five, thats FIVE flags have the union jack on them pretty much means UK is GOAT

>>2044573
>You are gonna blame him for the 30 million slaughtered by the Japs?

I'm gonna blame him for his ill-considered war plans and for triggering huge famines by letting his ineffective armies forage off the land.

>>2037626
>clickbait methodology
This term made me chuckle and I'm going to use it whenever I can, thank you anon

>>2044573
The KMT always gets a free pass for shit like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

>>2043649
>putting Polish and French in the same spot

>>2038459
>>2038486
>>2039841
The Polish didn't crack the code, they got their hands on an enigma machine and the Nazis soon changed the code because of this.

After they sent their codebreakers to Britain it was up to Alan Turing and his team to use the enigma machine and build a new machine to crack the new code.

>>2044573
No, it's correct.

Around 25 million of Russians died and "only" 22 Chinese, even though battles between the commies and the Kuomintang were quite common on that time.

More civilian Chinese died, that's true, but overall the Russians "win" by a wide margin.

>>2040682
>He fell for the Polish cavalry meme
Get the fuck out of here American.

What did South Africa do in the war and did only white South Africans serve?

>>2045414
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37666005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UimelKILcRg

>>2038647
>shitty as fuck comparison
France was a global power
Poland wasnt

>>2039114
>beliving the land lease had any significant impact
Iiteraly only americans belive this

>>2044094
>bullet sponges
>that killed more then 80% of the axis forces
Still did more then all others

>>2037617
>france
>surrender after a month
fuck off, brazil did more than france

>>2045590
>inflicted a higher daily casualty ratio to the Germans than during the entirety of Barbarossa

Fuck off, the French put up a better fight than the Russians, they just didn't have the luxury of being able to retreat hundreds of miles

i like how everyone completely forgets canada.

like its all
top tier: usa, uk and ussr
helped do something tier: china, yugo,poland,france

its like canada is a fucking afterthought after they stormed the fucking beaches of normandy with 10x better success than the usa or britbongs

>>2038448
seems about right yep

>>2037617
USA
>Supplied the Allies with food and logistics equipment. Largely kept the USSR in the war with their supplies.
USSR
>Wore the Germans out in some of the bloodiest fighting in the war.
UK+Commonwealth
>Kept up the fight through the darkest hours of the war, didn't let Germany unify all of Europe under their banner.
Everyone else.
The USA, the USSR and the UK were the big players on the world stage, you can not dispute their importance to the war effort, while other nations got better results with worse odds in the grand scheme it mattered little without the USA, USSR, and United Kingdom those sacrifices would have been in vain.

>>2045615
The France help by pass DST to Germany.

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1.-USSR
2.-USA
3.-France & Uk (they both failed tho)
rest is negligible.

>>2045968
>France tied with UK
>no China

>>2038625
>>2039001
Exactly
Just look at that gigantic faggot there >>2044401
The dude he's replying to probably mocked the fact Poland was put above China (which is ridiculous), but the butthurt Pole decided to spout some verbal diarrhea on France just because a dude who gives zero shit about France mocked his precious little country

Poles are one of the most pathetic people in history
As a German, I've met many of them and they're all scum

>People coviniently forget Pooland was the main contributor to breaking the enigma
Come on, I'm not asking for top 3 or 5, but give us some credit.

>>2038533
>>2038411
>>2039262
Are you brain damaged?

How about you learn about WW2 before you started sperging out like imbeciles without any clue.

>>2038608
But "Poles" didn't get conquered in 1939.
They fought to the end of WW2 and some even when it fucking ended.

You bunch of idiots.

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>>2046692
>But "Poles" didn't get conquered in 1939.

How deluded can one be?

>>2046704
Poland was conquered, not Poles.

>>2047361
the autism is strong with this one

>>2047371
Are you seriously mentally handicapped?

Read on Polish partisans, underground state, polish forces in the west. AK fought against the Reds even when the war was over in 1946.

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>>2037617
US at the top because the western and italy front was more important than many people think AND they heavily supported all the other allies financially. Without them russia wouldn't be defeated germany in the east I think.

Russia second because the eastern front was a game changer but desu I feel like any other nation would have been just as successful with the amount of troops and US money they had.

UK third, rest was pretty much useless.

t. german

Why the heck does everyone put the Soviets first? Name one reason.

Protip: "M-Muh communism" doesn't count

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>>2047429
Studied history.

>>2047441
Oh, and you can see how much of a commie I am by the image.

>>2047384
it was a futile resistance movement during the war, the warsaw uprising was fucking pointless and resulted in the capital getting decimated as well as the deaths of countless civilians, yet it's needlessly glorified nowadays because of the WE WUZ MARTYRS AND SHIT, POLAND STRONG mentality perpetuated by the government and conservative movements

after the war the AK became nothing short of fucking bandits hiding in forests that committed many atrocities yet for some reason many try to push the agenda that they were some sort of heroes oppressed by the communists (they actually threatened to kill my grandfather's family when he refused to join them after the war, he used to do some partisan shit earlier but was sent to prison), fuck those bastards

I fucking hate Poland and contemporary Polish """"patriotism""""

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>>2046692
>>2047361
>>2047384

>>2038448
Surely Norway contributed more than countries like Greece and South Africa? The merchant marine was indispensable for the logistical effort of the Allied.

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>>2047429

>>2046692
Every single country that was conquered had resistance forces, do you even into war?

What about Vichy France? And their fierce battle against the opposition forces in France?

The French resistance even supplied foreign intelligence to London during the war.

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>>2047455
>>2047479
>>2047531
can't hear you

>>2045444
Some mopping up in colonial theatres (Italian and French colonies) and they did help the allies in North Africa early in the war, against the Afrika Korps, but it was pulled out later. Sending troops was not popular with Boer voters (the majority of whites), so made it hard to do. Although I recall reading that most volunteers were predominately British anyway, as Boers were generally farmers and not interested in sending their sons (farm labour) to die in Europe or wherever. Boer political factions were generally for neutrality and somewhat anti-British, some even approved of Nazi actions (Germany as Prussia had been one of the Boers few international friends during British invasion in the late1800s/early qopps).

Worth keeping in mind, that the main problem was that South Africa did not have a large or well equipped professsional army at the time. And of course, white only. That, said many also volunteered directly with British units too.

>>2047609
They also did some fighting in Italy. I've seen a couple photos of blacks in non-combat duties, like cooks and staff drivers.

>all those butthurt Poles
kek. I guess we Brazilians aren't the ones ruining the Internet after all.

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>>2047455
Today it's easy to say it was a total fucking failure (and it was, but could've ended differently if soviets moved in and helped instead of waiting until the shitstorm is over and marching in as liberators.) We have the luxury of time perspective and all the information we need, they didn't. And I don't blame them, they tried. I don't know how it is to be conquered and humiliated but I guess it's worth leveling the capital city.
I don't know why people have audacity to call the uprising stupid from the comfort of their homes, under the rule of thier democratic govs.
Uprising was military failure but fags who shit on it trigger me because it wasn't aimed at helping the allies but rather a desperate attempt at regaining freedom.
Call me butthurt all you want.

>>2050295
>I don't know why people have audacity to call the uprising stupid from the comfort of their homes
I on the other hand don't know how people have the audacity to glorify it, we should remember it as a tragedy and respect those who have fallen (with particular emphasis on innocent bystanders) instead of making it out to be some fierce battle that we should be proud of, this is a very unhealthy approach to history that always puts the poles in the role of the victim, without any considerable self-reflection, it's basically skewing facts in order to brainwash the youth with patriotic propaganda (just look at how fashionable patriotic clothing is)

I'm not saying we ought to shit on the polish resistance during/post WW2, but we should step away from perceiving ourselves as constant martyrs and heroes, poland vs the world kind of bullshit

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>>2047455
probably because your grandfather was a smelly vatnik

>>2050352
A fair point, I agree.

To everyone poo pooing the Britains war effort and claiming that USA should be above Britain, what do you think the course of the war would have been if Britain had remained neutral from the beginning, or capitulated after the fall of France?

this entire thread is pure autism and shitposting

really makes you think why i keep coming back to this shitheap board

>>2045539
Well, them and Zhukov, but who cares what he thinks, amirite?

Oh, and ignore that Americans led to victory in the Atlantic, enabled a partial second front in Italy and an actually second front in France, and assisted Britain in aerially pounding Germany into the dirt.

While also blowing Japan out in the Pacific.

Objective rankings
1) US
2) Vlatniks
3) Kuomintang
4) UK
5) Literally who cares

Ban all yanks

>>2050404
blyaat

As a leaf, for being a minor power, Canada played a huge role relative to its size. From the raw resources provided, to the food and production, Canada is like the little engine that could.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Canada_during_World_War_II

(I know it is wikipedia, but I'm at work so I can't go more in depth)

Although for power rankings like these, I generally like to just put down North America instead of USA and Canada, because they were so co-ordinated.

All that sweet allied butthurt...

>>2037617
1. Russia
2. USA
3. China
4. UK
5. France
6. Australia

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>>2037617
1. USA
2. USSR
3. USA
4. USA
5. USA

But seriously 1. USSR 2. USA 3. UK 4. China 5. France

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>>2037617
>Netherlands

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>>2038634
>The building is a former synagogue

>>2038444
trips of truth

>>2047502
Greece had the second biggest Ally navy in the war plus 60% of the merchant marine was Greek as well

>>2052219
>>2050404
>>2045737
>>2039114
>America first
That's pathetic.

UK>REST ARE IRELEVANT

>>2057094
USSR did next to nothing on their West coast and couldn't have dealt with Japan.

>>2057484

>kicked out Elevens from Continental Asia
>did nothing
kek
Of couse, Americans worked more on the Asian front, but that doesn't change the fact that Russians played the largest role at defeating Hitler, what is pretty harder than defeating Japan.

>>2037617
1. USSR
2. USA
3. UK
4. Poland
5. China
...
57. France

>>2057514
>elevens
edgy references

>>2037617
1. US
2. Russia
--------------
"3." UK
"4." France

>>2038507
>these women were publicly humiliated and shamed afterwards
Would have been great if the French "resistance" had as much courage facing the Germans as they had when taking it out on their women.

>>2040786
>phoneposters

fuck you and your mobile links

>>2041148
Weren't most of the troops they fought in Normandy Hitler Youth scumbags? They always acted like that.

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>>2040786
freaky