Roman Genes

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>>2036557
Yes, the same thing happened to Greece. Sad!

>>2036590
modern Turks are pretty much Islamized Anatolian Greeks.

>>2036557
you wuz never kangz man

i'm sorry.

snownigger.

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>>2036614
painting made several hundred years after his death

or his contemporaries describing him as blonde

>>2036619
>200 years later

Do you expect the racial mixing to have been fulfilled by that time so hard that they think everybody in their history had been dark haired?

I don't think an entire continents gene were race mixed out of existence and its history erased in just 200 years.

Also, painting was from Pompeii, central Italy, untouched. They have always been dark haired. Never blond. Pre-roman times.

You wuz never a kang snowfuck

>>2036557
Do you even into genetics?

>>2036557
There is no such thing as being ethnically Roman. Rome itself was made up of the various people of the peninsula. The Italians, the latins, the sabines. Greeks, etc. etc.

Being Roman was more a cultural thing.

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>>2036628
>They say that the most amiable and beautiful amongst the Greeks was Alcibiades; amongst the Romans, Scipio. It is reported also that Demetrius Poliorcetes contended in Beauty. They affirm likewise that Alexander Son of Philip was of a neglectful handsomness: For his Hair curled naturally, and was yellow; yet they say there was something stern in his countenance

>For he had the hair of a lion and one eye was blue; the right one was heavy lidded and black, and the left one was blue; and his teeth were sharp as fangs, and he looked upon a defensive attack the same as a lion would

>4 The outward appearance of Alexander is best represented by the statues of him which Lysippus made, and it was by this artist alone that Alexander himself thought it fit that he should be modelled. 2 For those peculiarities which many of his successors and friends afterwards tried to imitate, namely, the poise of the neck, which was bent slightly to the left, and the melting glance of his eyes, this artist has accurately observed. 3 Apelles, however, in painting him as wielder of the thunder-bolt, did not reproduce his complexion, but made it too dark and swarthy. Whereas he was of a fair colour, as they say, and his fairness passed into ruddiness on his breast particularly, and in his face. 4 Moreover, that a very pleasant odour exhaled from his skin and that there was a fragrance about his mouth and all his flesh, so that his garments were filled with it, this we have read in the Memoirs of Aristoxenus

Sorry but we were kings.

The first Roman Emperor, Augustus was described as blonde too.

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>>2036590
Proffesional Greek here with Roman genes as well , here to answer all your questions.
Dont be jelly

What the fuck are Roman Genes? Fucking illiterate /pol/ coming here again to throw around concepts its doesn't understand.

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Among high class ancient Romans blue eyes were extremely rare, considering 30% of modern Italians have light eyes there is no way they didn't mix with their Germanic slaves and invaders.

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>>2036557
Romans were race of blonde blue-eyed giants, who conquered world with help of odin, but jews in their empire tricked them into racemixing, few redpilled romans left for east prussia where their noble genes existed until 1945 when communist judeo-masons destroyed them

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>>2036557
>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans

Pls

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>>2036557
> Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans
And do you have any source on that?

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>>2036781
/pol/ and blog i found told me so

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>>2036590
What bulshit is this? I am from Bulgaria and I can distinguish Greek from turkshit. Get your propaganda away!

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>>2036645
>Alexander the Great was blond because some retard born 600 years after him said so
Meanwhile this portrait of him traces it's origin to the Macedonian royal court while he was still alive.

Roman genetics live on in greeks, spainiards and various balkanites.

Can someone explain what "Roman" genes are?

Because last I checked a Roman was a citizen of the city of Rome and any tribe conquered by Rome and given citizenship

>>2036557
Same thing that with most roman shit. They never existed to begin with.

>>2036645
>only Nordics can be blonde
>being this retarded

>>2036557
"Romans" were already a composite race. For example, the Etruscans and their cousins were non-Latin, but part of a unique now-extinct language group (and likely ethnic/haplogroup -- whose name and details are subject to debate). Southern Italy was swarming with Greek colonists. Northern Italy/Switzerland/Austria, in the mountainous regions, were basically Celtic.

They mixed rather freely with the locals of places they colonized, like Spain, Illyria, Gaul, the Levant, etc. etc.

>>2036688
>Proffesional Greek
How much do you take for some Russian partyboss to pound your boipussi?

>>2036557
>all sorts of historical events like the mass rapes in the Middle Ages from Muslims conquesters or is the gene still alive today?

Muslim only got to sicily

>>2036763
This bait is bigger than my penis

>>2036917
Or maybe its a fucking joke

>>2036932
Like my penis :^(

>>2036778
Isn't that man an Arab, or a a Semite of some type? I've seen that pic in a video about the history of Arabs.

The doom of the romans was the moment we started to follow christianism.
I was surprised when onne of my teachers in economics school told me that "by coincidence" the countries in deeper crisis were chatolic.
Years after I have come to realize he was right. Many christian techings are far and deeply communist.
>Help the poor
>We are all sons of god (equal)
>Being rich is something bad and without virtue

Maybe if the religion weren't so Socratic. But fuck man I hate to belong to a religion so deeply commie.

I have to either change it or covnert to one of the protestant churches. Anglican sounds good.

>>2037031
*tips fedora*

>>2036557
>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans

Nope and fuck off with your "muhrace" nonsense.

>>2036864
I'm a living result that anybody can be born blond.

Semite here, of Assyrian origin, parents migrated to USA (I know, slime) and birthed me. I have blue eyes and light brown hair (Call me a jew I don't give af). Semites have a gene to birth blonds (jews, assyrians, syriacs, arameics, etc), so do I guess indo europeans

>>2037031
Protestantism birthed materialism, you are in a pretty bad posture to give lesson, the biggest proponents of "diversity" (aka ethnical replacement and feminism) are Sweden, Germany and the anglosphere, in short the strongholds of protestants.

>>2037078
>Assyrian origin, parents migrated to USA (I know, slime)
Aren't you a Christian, not a mudslim? Assyrians at this point Assyrians are partially defined by being Christian.

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>>2037031
>I think Catholicism is a religion for libshits
>I'll convert to Protestantism


The Roman Church doesn't need traitors like you, anyways. Go wave "refugees welcome" banners with your protestant bishops.

>>2036757
>>2036557
augustus was not roman guys , if you want a pure-breed roman you shoud look at caser, and he does not look nordic....

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>>2037596
also forgot pic

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>>2037295
>Go wave "refugees welcome" banners with your protestant bishops.
Look who's talking

>>2037603
He's just got a thing for feet m8

>>2036825
Bucharest is brown.. yea, that is totally accurate.

>>2037295
>>2037603
>Cuckholics and Lutherboos arguing who sucks Muslim cock more

What a time to be alive

>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans

fucking ignorant /pol/tards

All human groups are related anyway, so this racemixing is just remixing, really.

>>2036688
Weak jaw

>>2036605
Pfft is that why they are genetically closely related to uralic and central asian people?

>>2036557
>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans
How? It's actually the opposite in that 'roman' genes would've spread from britain to northern africa, anatolia, and everywhere in between. Especially with the colonia and veteran settlement shit going on.

>>2036645
>Moreover, that a very pleasant odour exhaled from his skin and that there was a fragrance about his mouth and all his flesh, so that his garments were filled with it, this we have read in the Memoirs of Aristoxenus

>tfw you will never smell Alexander

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>>2037922

I can only imagine how good he smelled.

*inhales deeply*

>>2036557
Rome was full of a variety of different ethnic groups. Emperors came in all colors.

>>2036778
severus was part berber

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>>2036763
Fuckin' lel.

>>2037031
Rome was already a sinking ship when Christianity took hold

>>2037866
but they aren't

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>>2036688
Nice dubs, professional Greek.

>>2037621
Its the Catholic church. They are the biggest cuckolds in the U.S.

>>2038001

the American Catholics are potentially the most conservative members of the Church, they voted Trump.

>>2038036
And yet they are in favor of illegal immigrants and other leftist ideals.

>>2036899
He has more body hair than you ever will.

>>2036917
On this 32 inch screen it's bigger than anyone's penis.

>>2038052

what part of "the majority of American Catholics voted for Trump even though the Pope hates him" do you not understand?

>>2036831 I think everyone is talking about the Mediterranean race when it comes to the Romans

>>2036638
Thank you for being the only one in this thread who isn't trying to explain how the Romans were REALLY their ancestors

>>2037866
they are not close to asian people kek

>>2038071
Especially mine :^(

>>2038072
The part were they continue to believe that the pope is infallible and they wonder why they dropped from a quarter of the population to 16%

>>2036638
Yep Rome just sporadically grew and rose out of fucking nothing for no reason, no genetic component at all. Patrician class was a myth, plebs were just the same, whole system was raciss, plebs becoming citizens near the fall, pure coincidence, everyone's the same genetics are meaningless.

People like you will bring the fall of civilization and bring more damage to the world then you will every realize, I hope you realize that before you die.

Everything is genetics, every civilization rises and falls because of genetics and mongrolization, from Egypt to Persia to China to India, and Rome.

>>2037603
>high sparrow
you realize that movement is literally protestantism and the pope in GoT is the High Septon, right?

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>>2036590
>>2036605
>>2037866
>>2037986
>>2038357

ITT: retards who believe that ancient romans and greeks were north european genetically/phenotypically

>>2036557
>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans
topkek

>>2039328
>genetically/phenotypically

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>>2036645
Blond hair exist as a minority in the Mediterranean type dumb ass. Or are you so deleuded you think snow monkeys are the only ones who can produced blond hair?

Pic related is Fabio , a blond haired blue eyed Italian.

>>2039465
Northern Italians are Germanic.

>>2039478


They have some Germanic heritage mixed with other heritage.

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>>2036557
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>>2039478
Northern Italians are as Germanic as African Americans are Irish. There is mixing going on, but it's not as significant.

>>2036784
>/pol/ and a blog as sources
Well there's your problem

>>2038819
>Not knowing the origins of Rome

It actually did just sprout out of nowhere. It was comprised of outcasts of the local tribes. To the point where it created a problem because nobody would marry them so they had to abduct their wives according to legend.

Again there are no Roman genes.

>socioeconomics is about genetics
Kill yourself

t. American who thinks half-puerto rican sicilians from jersey are Italians

>What happened to Iraq?
>What happened to Egypt?
>What happened to Iran?
>What happened to Greece?
>What happened to India?

myancestor.jpg

2000 years are technically nothing in genetics OP, apply yourself.

>>2037619
>Bucharest
And how do you know his horse was not brown, exactly?

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>>2036645
>>2039478
There isn't really such thing as Germanic genes. We just have genes - such as the ones responsible for light colored hair, skin or eyes - that are more present among Germanic speaking peoples. And they were present in ancient times as well.

Those genes are also present among other people in smaller numbers, including Greeks, Italians etc. That doesn't mean that Alexanders ancestors were speaking German.

We know Indo-Europeans came from the same area and they must have had the genes responsible for light and dark complexion, so naturally, mediterraneans also have those genes too, only they remained in fewer numbers due to natural selection (the same with Nothern Europeans and dark complexion).

Blond hair and blue eyes are much older than German languages themselves and people who had those genes began to spread out long before that too. It's ridiculous to assume that if someone had blonde hair their ancestors must have spoke German.

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>>2039478
>>2040878
>>2040878
People seem to misunderstand genetics and tie it too much to modern ethnic groups. As if a group like "Germans" or "Greeks" just suddenly sprung into existence with a unique gene pool and appearance, originally every Greek and German looked the same, and only began to look differently due to mixing.

The reality is that the languages and ethnic groups we know of today didn't form in isolation. It was usually various people who got together, got conquered, mixed or were exposed to selection etc. long before they even became "Greeks" or "Germans". Like I said, there are no "Germanic" genes, just a ratio of certain markers that are typical for Germans (pic related). Germanic is a language group, not a set of genes.

>>2039478
1.There's no such thing as germanic genes
2. Fair hair is not germanic trait

>>2036557
They are found all over southern France. We are the true descendants of the Romans. As a matter pf fact, when i look in the mirror, i see fucking Caesar. True story.

>>2038819
So is there evidence that all these great people had the same genes?

Italy had a second golden age during the renaissance, is it so hard to think the people of the renaissance descend from Romans?

Nowadays Scandinavia is a socialist welfare state leftist peaceful land, and no one doubts their ancestros were Vikings.

I think Anglos were "hurt" by the great number of movies and tv shows about Rome and Greece with American and British actors, and find therefore are hardwired to think Romans and Greeks must have looked like those actors, which isnt true.

>>2036557

Dispersed throughout the region, just like the bloodline before the Romans. bloodlines and genes aren't static systems that come from landscape. The romans conquered and mixed with many people.

Ethnic groups, culture, ect, change drastically and constantly. They are fluid. They mix and merge and meld and flow and evaporate.

Muslims also didn't mass rape, but historical revisionism is a staple of the alt-right. If anything, Syrians of today are the most Greco-Roman in terms of culture. They just speak Arabic and are (mostly) Muslim.

>>2036605

Islamized isn't a thing. Turks are a different culture than the people of Syria, who are different from the several groups of Iraq. Same with Iran, Egypt, ect. Muslims are extremely diverse, more diverse than Europe is.

But lumping everyone together as "Muslim" is lazy. Syrians are Muslim Greco-Romans. Egyptians are Muslim Greco-Copts. Moroccans are Muslim Berbers. Iranians are Muslim Persians.

>>2041569

this. TV is not what you base history off of.

I'm an American ginger of English, Scottish and French-Canadian descent, but I have a traditional Ronan nose

Does the name for that nose style really mean anything? Is it possible that some Gaelic ancestor of mine was boned down by a roman?

>>2036557

>Ethnic Italians are very much racially different than the ancient Romans

But that's wrong you fucking retard.

>>2036764
He looks like prince on GoT
The douchefag that drank poison

>>2039478

No, genetic studies have shown this to be false. They always looked like that, if anything they have Celtic ancestry, far predating those Germanic invaders