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Babby question, but why was distribution of it so poor? For all I know, production was high and balanced
It can't have been the exporting, because it wasn't that huge in most countries for it to affect the ammount that stays in the country
Collectivisation can't have played a big role because it's not as if products weren't made
You could argue that it was the lack of money, but over here in Romania money wasn't such a big worry in terms of buying food as it's thought of, standing at a queue for hours and ending up with random rotten shit was the worry, and I believe that it was the case more or less in other countries (at least the sane-ish eastern european bloc)
What's the missing link then
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>communism relies on proper resource management
>resources did not get managed properly
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Because planned economy fucked up agriculture royally
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>>2033096
Because the state produced it arbitrarily rather than the emergence of organic social systems that produced and distributed food in a socialist fashion.
That's the problem with political revolution, it doesn't consider social systems from and ecological standpoint. planting the seeds of cultural evolution is superior to a political revolution. Introducing ideas as mutations and letting natural selection do the work for you.
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>capitalism
Free market distributes food based on demand. Seeks to maximize profits so if a region doesn't have food capitalism sees that as a market failure.
>communism
Government manages everything. Unlike free market, they don't rely market trends because they don't care about profit
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>>2033096
But I thought Ceausescu having to pay off the immense debt by exporting so much was the actual reason why Romania ended up with no food.
I can't tell for the rest of the Eastern Europe though.
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At least they had REAL food
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A chicken was a luxury under true capitalism.
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gommunism has never actually happened. The attempts at gommunism were purposely being assholes to trigger a gommunist revolution, but the gubbment held so much power that it was not feasible that there be an uprising.
Long story short: you can't force it. Forcing it will actually repress it.
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Capitalism was a disaster before socialistic measures were put it place.
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>>2033615
That was a result of communist hidden agenda.
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Food under Capitalism: eat shit, turn into shit
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Food under Capitalism:
eat shit, turn into shit
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>>2033635
This is bullshit, Japan and Korea are as capitalist as it gets.
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Food under Capitalism: Carcinogen
Lobbyist Claims Monsanto's Roundup Is Safe To Drink, Freaks Out When Offered A Glass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM
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>>2033096
Because central planning is horribly inefficient.
It's no surprise, you need to be an inbred moron to believe that a bunch of bureaucrats in the capital could plan and distribute food adequately on the scale of a whole nation.
The most efficient system is free market capitalism, because this task of production and distribution is completely decentralized : loads of middlemen (the much hated capitalists), through the usage of the price system, ensure that all the food is distributed in the most efficient way possible.
There was a statistic during the 1980s in the USSR about the percentage of food which rotted before reaching supermarkets. It was staggering, something like 40%.
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Little did he know
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you see
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>>2033110
>>communism relies on proper resource management
So does capitalism. That's why capitalism transitioned to relatively free market systems, because of the ability for markets to do a decent job of allocating resources. Soon, in the next few hundred years, market socialism will take over, and eliminate the market speculators and capital investor parasites who don't actually produce anything and are basically rent seekers, and the economy will be even more efficient.
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>>2033414
>Free market distributes food based on demand.
That's demand based on income, including income derived from rent seeking because of MCMers, rather than demand based on labor and productivity as you would have with CMCers.
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150 years
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>>2033707
Soviets themselves cut all possible corners when it was about sonsumer goods.
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Rescue
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Eat shit
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>>2033791
>look mom, I'm doing my part in the great revolutionary struggle!
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>>2033096
Fuck off back you reddit you spurge
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Best allocator of shit resources
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Derp
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>>2033589
>>2033606
>>2033627
>>2033635
>>2033653
this
>>2033096
Sure you didn't have Pepsi and Spearmint bubble gum and 'fashionable' murcan clothes, but you had actual food, not tainted by any corporate profit boosting chemical. Fish, meat, eggs, milk, bread, you name it. Shit was healthy, bottle of milk had only one ingredient - whole milk.
the commie food was ORGANIC
In commie times we used to have bakeries on every corner. Now they all are closed and supermarkets instead of them with plastic bread in plastic bags.
But I know place where fresh bread from commie-style organic bread factory is sold it's very good. And I don't eat white bread.
I'm from Poland and I really miss my local commie bakery.
Best bread and buns I ever ate, plus it's the only place that will sell you food at 2-6 am when you're going back from a party being hungry as fuck.
>communist chocolate was 100% natural and made with real butter
>pirates privatize and replace butter with margarine, vegetable oil and force the company to compete with hersheys shit
when pirates privatized the communist industry they replaced our quality products with competitive shit
in poland communists had bakeries everywhere producing wholegrain wholesome organic bread for almost free
now the competitive westerners replaced it with chemical and air filled cotton white bread
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>>2035577
The health benefits of organic food vs normal meat, dairy and produce are completely unproven.
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>>2035588
drink Roundup capitalismboo
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>>2035603
That isn't how pesticides work and you know it. The science simply does not support your conclusions. It has nothing to do with capitalist or communist, or socialist
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>>2033589
t. Ken M
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>>2033414
>so if a region doesn't have food capitalism sees that as a market failure.
No, they see it as the magic of the market, if these people don't have food then they're lazy commies who should Start A Businesstm before eating
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>>2033695
>nsure that all the food is distributed in the most efficient way possible.
you mean in the most profitable way possible without taking account for the purchasing power of said population, just like the kulaks in the 30s
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>>2033707
>GMO's
i don't get it? why do people fear GMO? it's literally been done for thousands of years and without it people would have starved into death
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>>2035577
nobody's preventing you from making organic food. you could get all the organic materials from the shop and start making those organic foods that you enjoy so much.
but you're just a lazy commie who want's some free shit so you can't even do it.
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>>2035710
>you mean in the most profitable way possible
The two are closely interlinked.
You can't make a profit if everyone's too poor to buy your shit, anon.
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