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Are there any advantages to totalitarianism?

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Are there any advantages to totalitarianism?
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>>2032481
Of there are, that's an incredibly stupid question.
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>>2032481
History prove us that more totalitarian your state is, more dumb it will get.
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>>2032481
It's pretty swag if you're in command I guess
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you can get shit done without all that voting/protest/public approval nonsense.
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>>2032481
I don't think anyone enjoys themselves in a totalitarian system.

Even the elite are constantly in fear for their lives.
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If the regime is so totalitarian, why are so they so insecure about being criticized?

Firing squads for making fun of the leader. WHAT'S the deal with that?
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It's not subtle enough.
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>>2032481
Yes see
>>2032554
The entire political and military process is MUCH faster, but the downside is that it's not always the best call, since it hasn't been discussed as thoroughly beforehand
It's also great for cultural homogeny, if Glorious Leader says "this thing" is un-*insert nationality*, then it is banned
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No.
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>>2032481
It's totally rad
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>>2032487
That is objectively false.
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>>2032554
This. When you don't really have to discuss on what you're going to do, you can do shit much faster.
Downside is that if you don't discuss what you're going to do there's the risk of doing really dumb shit.
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>>2032481
Order and security.
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>>2032481
>>2032481
I think you mean "are there any disadvantages to totalitarianism?"
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Cool uniforms.

>>2032554
>>2033969
>>2034131
you can get shit done
Nope. You still need support from inner circles of goverment and military.
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>>2036261
Which is still faster than needing a national election, referendum, or campaign.

In a totalitarian state you (as in your party and highest officials) mandate something and its done.

The cons are can do incredibly stupid shit and basically whoever controls the military has the real power.
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>>2034695

lol governments are utterly corrupt and inefficient under totalitarianism. Crime was endemic in the USSR
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>>2036300
>(as in your party and highest officials) mandate something and its done.

this is laughable. Either it is done incorrectly or overdone in such a manner that the consequences are worse than the perceived problem. Read Inside the 3rd Reich by Speer
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>>2036319
Yes that was already listed as the con.

The pro was the speed with which you can get shit done. The problem is that what you get done tends to be fucked beyond all reason.
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It would be fun if you were in a position of power or a job within the police force or military provided you approved of what the regime was bringing to your nation and personally felt you were improving the nation.

Worst thing ever if you are a target of persecution or dont agree with laws and mandates, but if you love dear leader then you might enjoy yourself.
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>>2036307
Dunnoh but Saddam Hussein ended sectarian violence as he wanted to do the violence busyness alone.
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>>2032481
Well if done right
>No Democratic slow down
>Low crime rate
>No rival division between the social classes
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>>2032481
Cool uniforms that people will LARP for centuries after.
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>>2032481
Yes. Main advantage is called "Getting things done"
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>>2032481
strong state
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Simple example:
>your country is being invaded

you can either have 1:
> a parliament and paralized goverment bickering around, part of politics wantint to surredner and welcome new overlords
> laws for mobilization of populace and industry for war being blocked because its unconstitutional and agaist freedoms
>dissidents spreading panic at streets and preaching that all is lost
>people telling you not to use A-Bombs since its inhuman

or 2:
>a totalitarian state
>every male is drafted into army, industries forced to do goverment work producing weapons
>women drafted to do supply wor in backlines
>dissent during wartime considered betrayal and warrants execution
etc.

In before US vs Japan, US was pretty much totalitarian during WW2
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>>2033969
>since it hasn't been discussed as thoroughly beforehand

How much something gets discussed cannot be determined solely by the government system.

'Democracies' run all kinds of ass-backwards ideas and decisions with little insight and discussion all the time.
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>>2032481
It's got more potential to get shit done than democracy. On an ideal case you could have a benevolent, honest, charismatic and massively intelligent totalitarian leader who is completely focused on improving everyone's life quality at nobody's expense.
On a democracy you'd need a majority of the state to meet these conditions for an ideal country and that those who do not lack the political power to hinder those efforts.

In theory it's arguably a better system, in practice though the majority of any state is self-interested and would have much worse consequences if they could order literally anything.
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Totalitarianism is the opium and wet dream of every uneducated and useless person (i.e. NEETs and /pol/tards) because absence of freedom means absence of personal responsibilities. They want to have their complete lives strictly dictated (education, work career and any other decisions) by a strong leader because they are autistic manchildren who cannot look after themselves.
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>>2036307
>Crime was endemic in the USSR
Not true.
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Is this the LOGH thread?
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>>2037248
Youre so dumb. Democraties during wartime manage to harden themselves and avoid internal struggle (most of the time) in order to focus on the war effort.
No the US were not totalitarian during WWII you retard and they destroyed both Japan and Germany
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