True capitalism has never been tried

True national socialism has never been tried

>>2028391

It has.

Any criticism of capitalism is met by capitalists with the response that OP posted. Criticism of national socialism is met by national socialists with descriptions of how great Germany was from 1933 to 1945.

>>2028400
After the rohm putsch it wasn't true national socialism

>>2028400
I'm pretty sure OP's mocking the standard rebuttal of Marxists, who reply to all criticisms of the USSR with "the Soviet Union wasn't a true socialist/communist state" meme

It's fine if you think the Soviet Union wasn't truly communist, but you can't turn around and also say the US is a true capitalist oligarchy right after that

>>2028364
False capitalism is better than true communism.

>>2028411
Didn't Harvard publish a paper analyzing every major federal law passed in the past four decades and concluding that yes, we do live in an oligarchy?

>>2028405

If you say so. They said it was, and later national socialists reference them as a success.

>>2028411

Or he's correctly recognized that it's the exact argument used by capitalists in defense of the systems they create.

>It's fine if you think the Soviet Union wasn't truly communist, but you can't turn around and also say the US is a true capitalist oligarchy right after that

But it is. It's not capitalist in the sense of being a free market, it's capitalist because it's the seat of the system that is called capitalism, the thing that won the Cold War.

>>2028423
Nice dodge, reference a paper without citing it, while avoiding the fact that the US isn't a true capitalist state (the actual meat of the argument)

True Islam hasn't been tried.

>>2028431
The US being the "seat" of the current era of free trade doesn't mean the US is a fully capitalist state. You're changing the definition of a capitalist state so that it always applies to the US, regardless of how many socialist/mixed economic safeguards it may put in place. It's a pretty weak way to substitute what is a lack of an argument.

>>2028364
>>2028391
Good

>>2028456

It's not a free market at all.

But it is capitalist, because the economic system of the world is known as capitalist, it's the thing that won the cold war, and it's what people reference when they want to say capitalism is great. Capitalism has never been tried when this system is criticized, and the ways it's not a free market are sometimes listed.

>>2028449

Who says that?

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>>2028449
true cuckoldry has never been tried

>>2028491
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo#Walking_marriages

>>2028364
USA from 1800 to about 1880

Capitalism has had various phases though.

Dynamic capitalism -> Static capitalism -> Supercapitalism -> Neoliberalism

>>2028400
Really they're right though. National socialism is a good idea because it's for the state and not some leech people

>>2028476
actually I saw an article from some islamists saying that muslims got greedy and ruined their chances of taking over the whole world

http://jihadology.net/2016/11/08/new-article-from-al-maqalat-remaining-and-expanding-remain-a-forgotten-history-or-expand-into-a-memorable-future/

>>2028364
True things have never been tried, everything in existence has been in some way corrupted and is not pure.

>>2030679
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