Thread for discussion of Himmler's occult shit

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>>2024758
>>>/x/

>>2024758
Was he a Japanese agent guys?

>>2024758
Was Himmler legit autistic?

>>2025229
Yes.

>>2024758
please bring back Return to Castle Wolfenstein

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>“Why are we trying to bring to the attention of the world the fact that we have no past? Isn’t it enough that the Romans built massive buildings, while our forefathers still had to live in miserable huts? Himmler has now started digging up the remains of these miserable dwellings, and is enthralled by every pottery shard or any stone axe he finds. The only thing that comes out of that is, that it is now clear to everyone that we were still throwing stone axes and huddling around the fire at a time when the Greeks and the Romans had for a long til reached the highest cultural level. In reality, we should keep quiet about our past, but instead Himmler is creating a quite unneccesary fuss with his activities. The Romans of our days must be highly amused over Himmler’s discoveries!”

>>2024758
>Himmler's occult shit
Catholicism's not "occult", dickhead.

>>2024758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi0wJQcMtms

>>2025312
It's called the THULE SOCIETY

>>2025229

It's easier to name the one Nazi that wasn't autistic. It was Goering btw.

>>2025312
Himmler wasn't a Catholic you retard

>>2025300

WE WUZ SUPERIOR

>>2025949
No, he was just a sociopath

>>2026114
One with pretty tight family values, it seems.

>>2025949
Germs in general are a pack of spergs

>>2026123
Perfectly possible.

>>2026331
more like WEWUZburg

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>>2026331
This is one of the more substantial elements of SS ideology-building (literally and theoretically)
It was used as a centre for historical/archaeological/pseudo-scientific research

What's occult though is Himmler's plans (i.e. pic related) to renovate the castle with new walls/roads, getting rid of the nearby village and resettling its inhabitants
Some of the minor design aspects (refurnishing, adding art) were accomplished

Wewelsburg was to be used for SS initiation ceremonies, organizational meetings, to store the totenkopf rings of dead members, tombs (I guess for high ranking SS officers), and vaults (for the Holy Grail of course)

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>>2026351
SS "occultism" was a weird mix of wewuzery: we weuz Teutonic Knights, we wuz Aryans, we wuz Wotanists/pagans, we wuz Nords

A good book on all this is The Occult Roots of Nazism by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
It gives a solid background to the various occultist/Ariosophist/esoteric movements in the German world and to the degree these actually influenced Nazism (a little but not a lot and only with certain individuals, i.e. Himmler and Rosenberg)

>>2024758
Oh yeah, I remember he was very close with some insane old man (who literally had been put in a mental hospital) who claimed he was a rightful king of all Germanics from a line that dated back to like 20000 BC when giants and gnomes lived in Europe. He even promoted him to colonel of the SS and let him design for SS and make up pagan prayers and holidays. Also, according to him, Jesus Christ was a pagan Germanis leader who got crucufied by a group of pagan Germanic heretics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Maria_Wiligut

>>2024758
What >>2026409 said. If you're interested in Nazi occultism, find the book " The Occult Roots of Nazism" by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke. AFAIK you can download it for free from archive . org. Basically, most of it was just Theosophy mixed with WEWUZ-tier German nationalism.

>>2025312
>nazis
>catholic
llol'd

>>2026786
Well, both Hitler and Himmler came from Catholic background.

>>2026786
>Gott mit uns
>Atheism was banned in SS
>Hitler spoke critically of atheism tons of times as being egocentric etc.
Educate yourself, redneck.

>>2026891
>if you are not an atheist you must be a catholic
Ok.

>>2026908
Himmler was probably neo-Pagan but Hitler was Catholic I think.

>>2026891
>>2026915
Hitler was a non-practicing Catholic - he didn't attend the mass or confess to a priest, but never officially broke ties with the church. The same was true for Goebbels. Rosenberg, Himmler and Richard-Walter Darre were occultists. As far as I remember the SS encouraged their members to become "gottglaubig" - "god-believing", i.e. not atheists, but also not adhering to any religion.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottgl%C3%A4ubig
Even though they felt that their ideology was hardly compatible with Christianity, pure atheism was too nihilistic for them.

>>2025949

Schacht, Streicher, Dönitz, Dietrich, Heydrich and Skorzeny were also not autistic. But they were not the same as each other. Schacht and Heydrich were intelligent sociopaths, like Göering. Streicher was a populist madman and the most ardent anti-semite of the bunch. Skorzeny and Dietrich were fucking reckless crazies who would have followed whatever ideology would have them fight. Dönitz was just the embodiment of Prussian Militarism caught within the gravitational field of the Führer.

I want to say Keitel too, but I doubt there was a single Prussian general who wasn't autistic about warfare.

>>2026915
>>2026978

The Nazi ideology was vehemntly opposed to Catholicism. Some of the generals or SS were catholics, but overall national socialism never managed to quite subdue the catholic element of Germany in a way they did with the protestants. The reason being that the catholics served the Pope first and the Führer second, and so were considered a threat.

If you have any doubts whatsoever regarding National Socialist - Catholic relations you should read Alfred Rosenbergs "The Myth of the 20th Century", the second most widespread Nazi book of the time. It's essentially 400 pages of Rosenberg taking a shit on catholicism.

Rosenberg was, by the way, probably the biggest autist of them all.