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Was he the first true nationalist?

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Was he the first true nationalist?
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No.
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>>1997351
No.
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>>1997351
Yes
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>>1997351
Moses was.
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>>1997513
Good answer.
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>>1997351
>Nationalism
>Shield

When nationalism was a thing, shields were already obsolete.
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If you are studying ideological phenomena and are trying to understand the historiography behind something like the concept of nationalism you need to remove your inherently modern perspective from your analyses and understanding of the past. Nobody in Academia takes you seriously when you project your present day perspective onto the past, especially antiquity.


Anyways: No.

The concept of the sovereign nation state and therefore the phenomena of nationalism is a product of the enlightenment and 19th century revolutions. Particularly the French Rev., the Monarchist reactionaries, and the more overlooked 1830s Revs.

You can't assume that a man unifying various Germanic Tribes in the face of Roman conquest is a "nationalist" if they aren't even a state akin to a kingdom. Let alone a region with complex kinship ties and tribalism.

He is hardly the first. Vercongitorix attempted to do the same thing in unifying various Gallic and Celtic tribes in the face of Caesar's conquest of Gaul
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>>1997520
Serious answer too. The Bible is literally the first account of someone creating an ethno state.
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>>1997351
No, he was
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>>1997552
>Complains about applying modern attitudes and beliefs onto historical figures
>Proceeds to apply his modern attitudes and beliefs onto historical figures by purposefully distorting the definitions of words so he can thereby shoehorn only things he doesn't like into a specific category in order to imply that you must either agree 100% with [autistically specific thing he arbitrarily likes] or [horrible thing that no one likes]
kek
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>>1997779

>Completely missing his point because you want Nationalism to be a historical thing SO SO bad

lol
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>>1997828

You have to go back.

>>>/pol/
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>>1997833
You can have a (You) too!
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>>1997858

>responds with a pointless /pol/ infographic

You people are literally predictable robots. You see that right?
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>>1997828
Hello! You seem to be new to /his/, and visiting from another board. Here on /his/ a high level of discourse is required. You can learn more about this, and other important matters by reading the sticky!
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>>1997351
>Heruskoz King.
>Nationalist
Kek.

t. Sweboz
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>>1997865
That depends, do you think that non-whites are a healthy addition to Western Civilization?
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>>1997874

>only Jews don't like /pol/

I'm not a Jew, I'm Australian with Anglo heritage. Fuck off you queers.
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>>1997873
DUGUNDIZ
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>>1997879
You don't have to like (((/pol/))) but you can't deny their dedication towards Mr. Deplorable.
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>>1997351
No.
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>>1997443
>>1997455
>>1997765
>>1998973
>Betraying your adopted state for the people you share blood with

Sounds nationalist to me
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